I just got the Koenig Schaller and now have quite the pld helm collection.
I have the Valor Coronet for Rampart and healing.
I have the Aegishjalmr for enmity. I use it for provoke but also Flash, warcry, anything that gives me hate and I don't have a better helm for.
I just got the Koenig Schaller. I'm assuming this is what I should fulltime.
I also have the Adaman Barbuta.
Which one's should I use and for what? Which should I get rid of?
PLD Helm
PLD Helm
Toss adaman, not really worth carrying around valor though it doesn't hurt.
Flash: Walahra Turban
Job Abilities: Aegishjalmr
Blood tanking and Ustusemi Ichi: Koenig Schaller
Flash: Walahra Turban
Job Abilities: Aegishjalmr
Blood tanking and Ustusemi Ichi: Koenig Schaller
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Ditch the Adaman Barbuta--get Iron Ram Sallet.
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You have it right for the most part, tho you may want to look into a TP setup that has more acc and haste. Another thing to consider is a mix of Shield Skill and Haste Gear for Ichi casting if u start playing Pld/Nin. Since Ichi has a low recast time you can afford a little more shield skill gear so u block more and less often get interrupted.
On a side note i wouldn't bother macroing a valor coronet for cures as it will make you blink when mages are trying to heal you. Healing skill probably wont make or break anything anyhow.
Valor coronet isn't worth it unless you have Iron Will macros which will let you cast nearly anything without interruption for 45 seconds. I've found it really nice for things that attack a bit fast.
On a side note i wouldn't bother macroing a valor coronet for cures as it will make you blink when mages are trying to heal you. Healing skill probably wont make or break anything anyhow.
Valor coronet isn't worth it unless you have Iron Will macros which will let you cast nearly anything without interruption for 45 seconds. I've found it really nice for things that attack a bit fast.
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ditch all of them and main a walahra turban for head piece
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Blinking shouldn't matter unless your mages suck.
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Ragnarok.Anye said:
Ditch the Adaman Barbuta--get Iron Ram Sallet.
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Bismarck.Chasuro said:
I just got the Koenig Schaller and now have quite the pld helm collection.
I have the Valor Coronet for Rampart and healing.
I have the Aegishjalmr for enmity. I use it for provoke but also Flash, warcry, anything that gives me hate and I don't have a better helm for.
I just got the Koenig Schaller. I'm assuming this is what I should fulltime.
I also have the Adaman Barbuta.
Which one's should I use and for what? Which should I get rid of?
I have the Valor Coronet for Rampart and healing.
I have the Aegishjalmr for enmity. I use it for provoke but also Flash, warcry, anything that gives me hate and I don't have a better helm for.
I just got the Koenig Schaller. I'm assuming this is what I should fulltime.
I also have the Adaman Barbuta.
Which one's should I use and for what? Which should I get rid of?
nobody cares what helmets you got for PLD,beside you aint gonna be tanking anything big like a HNM anytime soon
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HAI CHAS!!
Pretty much what everyone said. Ditch the purple adaman head.
Flash/NI/repris/anything needing lower recasts - Wally head
Ichi casting/both shadow timers down - koenig schaller
Aegis - JA/cure/cure kit
MDT/MDB - Iron Ram head
Idle - wally head or enmity headpiece
Pretty much what everyone said. Ditch the purple adaman head.
Flash/NI/repris/anything needing lower recasts - Wally head
Ichi casting/both shadow timers down - koenig schaller
Aegis - JA/cure/cure kit
MDT/MDB - Iron Ram head
Idle - wally head or enmity headpiece
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Cerberus.Eanae said:
Toss adaman, not really worth carrying around valor though it doesn't hurt.
Flash: Walahra Turban
Job Abilities: Aegishjalmr
Blood tanking and Ustusemi Ichi: Koenig Schaller
Flash: Walahra Turban
Job Abilities: Aegishjalmr
Blood tanking and Ustusemi Ichi: Koenig Schaller
@ op: This is exactly right. Well. almost, I would suggest that at your stage you could carry around coronet for rampart macro and not be sacrificing anything else due to space concerns.
Edit: Just saw you were on bis. Feel free to send me a tell if you need any advice. You can avoid idiots like Lucant that way.
Turban = haste
enmity = for your hate gathering
shield skill for ichi cast / shadows down or straight tank
enmity = for your hate gathering
shield skill for ichi cast / shadows down or straight tank
here is my opinion
1: Sell Adaman Barbuta
2: get W.Turban if you dont have
3: work on getting Bahamut Mask, Aegishjalmr is fine for now tho
4: Get Iron Ram for MDT
5: Valor Coronet is useful for a Rampart VIT build only (Magic Shield tests have shown that the amount of damage Rampart absorbs is variable. The currently accepted formula for damage absorbed seems to be VIT*2.), i have 2 rampart macro's 1 for just pure enmity and one for VIT build depends what i tank depends on what macro i use.
6: Koenig Schaller for Ichi, W.Turban for Ni
1: Sell Adaman Barbuta
2: get W.Turban if you dont have
3: work on getting Bahamut Mask, Aegishjalmr is fine for now tho
4: Get Iron Ram for MDT
5: Valor Coronet is useful for a Rampart VIT build only (Magic Shield tests have shown that the amount of damage Rampart absorbs is variable. The currently accepted formula for damage absorbed seems to be VIT*2.), i have 2 rampart macro's 1 for just pure enmity and one for VIT build depends what i tank depends on what macro i use.
6: Koenig Schaller for Ichi, W.Turban for Ni
Bismarck.Dracondria said:
Blinking shouldn't matter unless your mages suck.
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Shiva.Lucant said:
ditch all of them and main a walahra turban for head piece
Bismarck.Altar said:
Cerberus.Eanae said:
Toss adaman, not really worth carrying around valor though it doesn't hurt. Flash: Walahra Turban Job Abilities: Aegishjalmr Blood tanking and Ustusemi Ichi: Koenig Schaller
^that is what i would have said.
Garuda.Galadriel said:
On a side note i wouldn't bother macroing a valor coronet for cures as it will make you blink when mages are trying to heal you. Healing skill probably wont make or break anything anyhow.
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Bismarck.Dracondria said:
Blinking shouldn't matter unless your mages suck.
Both very good points.
I noticed this issue, but as a whm I felt that if anything it would teach them how to be a better healer. But you are right Galadriel, getting cured by the healer quickly is better than the +10 to healing skill.
Thanks for the input. 99% of it was very good info. I do have the walahra turban and it is in my fast cast set. I never considered it but I see your point.
What I am thinking now is to ditch the valor coronet because when I use Rampart I'm usually more concerned about getting as much hate as possible from it. So then I can only carry around a Schaller, Aegis and Turban.
Oh right, the Iron Ram Sallet. I think I will wait to get that until I am doing a lot of tanking for a linkshell.
Thanks again!
I'd like to add that with regards to the Valor Coronet, I tried macroing it in for cures for a bit, really noticed no difference in cures so I took it out.
Only thing that will affect your cures will be stuff with cure potency and the only item PLD gets (besides weapon slot items) is the Hospitaler Earring, well worth it if you don't have it in my opinion.
Only thing that will affect your cures will be stuff with cure potency and the only item PLD gets (besides weapon slot items) is the Hospitaler Earring, well worth it if you don't have it in my opinion.
Bismarck.Altar said:
Cerberus.Eanae said:
Toss adaman, not really worth carrying around valor though it doesn't hurt.
Flash: Walahra Turban
Job Abilities: Aegishjalmr
Blood tanking and Ustusemi Ichi: Koenig Schaller
Flash: Walahra Turban
Job Abilities: Aegishjalmr
Blood tanking and Ustusemi Ichi: Koenig Schaller
@ op: This is exactly right. Well. almost, I would suggest that at your stage you could carry around coronet for rampart macro and not be sacrificing anything else due to space concerns.
Edit: Just saw you were on bis. Feel free to send me a tell if you need any advice. You can avoid idiots like Lucant that way.
Cant go wrong with Altar advice.
But again, look into Askar/Homam Head for tping, W.turban for flash and ni, Koenig for ichi/stoneskin/phalanx. Aeg for sentinel, shield bash, voke if youre blood tanking, atonement etc.
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I'd like to add that with regards to the Valor Coronet, I tried macroing it in for cures for a bit, really noticed no difference in cures so I took it out.
Only thing that will affect your cures will be stuff with cure potency and the only item PLD gets (besides weapon slot items) is the Hospitaler Earring, well worth it if you don't have it in my opinion.
Only thing that will affect your cures will be stuff with cure potency and the only item PLD gets (besides weapon slot items) is the Hospitaler Earring, well worth it if you don't have it in my opinion.
This is only partially true. Healing magic skill effects the amount healed marginally. Vit and Mnd will boost your heals to cap. I will direct you to http://members.shaw.ca/pizza_steve/cure/Cure_Calculator.html[/link] to verify
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What I am thinking now is to ditch the valor coronet because when I use Rampart I'm usually more concerned about getting as much hate as possible from it. So then I can only carry around a Schaller, Aegis and Turban.
This is situational, if youre popping rampart for pure hate generation, then Aeg is going to be your best bet. However, i use rampart to help lessen dmg on occasion as well and still use my coronet in those cases.
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Bismarck.Dracondria said:
Blinking shouldn't matter unless your mages suck.
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Healing Magic skill does *** all for cures. It's more worth it to use Aegishjalmr for Cure III (-1 point cure) but DO NOT USE AEGISHJALMR FOR CURE 4. It will cost you more enmity then you gain from the points of cure lost to the MND -7.
If you have Joyeuse and Atonement, full time your turban. (of course there are exceptions)
M.head and your other shield gear for utsusemi ichi. Also for monk type mobs to lessen the overall damage they hundred fist you with.
You can throw on m.head and shield gear after reprisal just for fun if you want to see you shield go off like crazy but its not really needed
Adaman barbuta? whats that? Just throw it away anyways. Dont even NPC it. People might see you with it. That would be embarrassing.
And i second what Eanae said about cure 3/4
M.head and your other shield gear for utsusemi ichi. Also for monk type mobs to lessen the overall damage they hundred fist you with.
You can throw on m.head and shield gear after reprisal just for fun if you want to see you shield go off like crazy but its not really needed
Adaman barbuta? whats that? Just throw it away anyways. Dont even NPC it. People might see you with it. That would be embarrassing.
And i second what Eanae said about cure 3/4
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Cerberus.Eanae said:
Toss adaman, not really worth carrying around valor though it doesn't hurt.
Flash: Walahra Turban
Job Abilities: Aegishjalmr
Blood tanking and Ustusemi Ichi: Koenig Schaller
Flash: Walahra Turban
Job Abilities: Aegishjalmr
Blood tanking and Ustusemi Ichi: Koenig Schaller
This^
Wear turban always unless above situations are met
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Bismarck.Chasuro said:
I just got the Koenig Schaller and now have quite the pld helm collection.
I have the Valor Coronet for Rampart and healing.
I have the Aegishjalmr for enmity. I use it for provoke but also Flash, warcry, anything that gives me hate and I don't have a better helm for.
I just got the Koenig Schaller. I'm assuming this is what I should fulltime.
I also have the Adaman Barbuta.
Which one's should I use and for what? Which should I get rid of?
I have the Valor Coronet for Rampart and healing.
I have the Aegishjalmr for enmity. I use it for provoke but also Flash, warcry, anything that gives me hate and I don't have a better helm for.
I just got the Koenig Schaller. I'm assuming this is what I should fulltime.
I also have the Adaman Barbuta.
Which one's should I use and for what? Which should I get rid of?
Well, you can start by ditching the Barbuta (like everyone else suggested). It's really not necessary for anything at 75. Koenig is such a dreamy piece! It has a great defense+VIT setup, and more importantly shield skill. You should main the Koenig as /war. No questions asked.
Main the Turban when you're /nin, haste is key in that aspect. Also, the HP and MP boost are quite nice.
Assjammer (lol) for enmity, obviously. If you can, upgrade to Bahamut's mask. It looks cooler and has more enmity.
Good call on the Coronet. I don't cure in it though, unless for some reason I'm outside main alliance curing. You'll want to cure in enmity.
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Cerberus.Eanae said:
Healing Magic skill does *** all for cures. It's more worth it to use Aegishjalmr for Cure III (-1 point cure) but DO NOT USE AEGISHJALMR FOR CURE 4. It will cost you more enmity then you gain from the points of cure lost to the MND -7.
Cure 3 is such a beautiful thing on PLD, quick to get off and decent hp recovery. Mostly by time you finished casting cure 4 a mage has beat you too it.
Cure 3 was also one of my main hate tools on the ACP final fight XD
PLD is all about 3 things mostly; haste, shield skill and enmity. Lot's of good advice on what to use when here. Can't see anyone mentioning is Valhalla Helm which is another great situational piece and if you're a pld in a einherjar shell this should be your main lot. Then there is Nocturnus Helm which is an interesting option for soloing since it occasionally heals you from physical attacks.
So there are a few more heads out there that you could look into getting. Just remember no matter how many you have you still need 3-4 or more macros for all of them depending on what you're doing.
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Wear turban always
personally i main Bahamut's Mask and macro and macro others in
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Re: not-maining Turban
Since Atonement, a Haste/accuracy TP setup has become more prudent than ever. It's pretty logical, since faster/accurate swings = more Atonements.
Since Atonement, a Haste/accuracy TP setup has become more prudent than ever. It's pretty logical, since faster/accurate swings = more Atonements.
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haste/accuracy build only works in safer situations, you can't expect to always be able to use it. when unable to, it's better to use valhalla/darksteel+1/koenig/noctus or even coral+1 pending situation.
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Leviathan.Abriel said:
haste/accuracy build only works in safer situations, you can't expect to always be able to use it. when unable to, it's better to use valhalla/darksteel 1/koenig/noctus or even coral 1 pending situation.
In a situation where you can't engage and use Atonement then you should be tanking with a RDM.
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Valefor.Argettio said:
Leviathan.Abriel said:
haste/accuracy build only works in safer situations, you can't expect to always be able to use it. when unable to, it's better to use valhalla/darksteel 1/koenig/noctus or even coral 1 pending situation.
In a situation where you can't engage and use Atonement then you should be tanking with a RDM.
what did paladins ever do before atonement
Phoenix.Airbag said:
Valefor.Argettio said:
Leviathan.Abriel said:
haste/accuracy build only works in safer situations, you can't expect to always be able to use it. when unable to, it's better to use valhalla/darksteel 1/koenig/noctus or even coral 1 pending situation.
They fed TP and did negligable damage.
Now they feed TP and do reasonable damage.
If damage is a fully viable means of holding hate then the best tank is SAM
If damage is a semi viable means of holding hate then the best tank is DRK or PLD
If damage isn't a viable means of holding hate then the best tank is RDM
Edit: assuming each of the above have spesific tanking sets, damage reduction sets and are capable of tanking
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