Endgame: What Job Are YOU Locked Into?

It seems to me like the shells that have the biggest problem with people not showing up on needed jobs are the ones that require you to fill out a job application to get in. Gear shouldn't factor in. All that matters is a good attitude and a willingness to get things done.

Yeah, but there's a reason why some shells make you fill out an application. It's because there are people out there who can't be trusted and these shells or the people in them have already been burned before.

Gear and the use thereof says a lot about a player's aptitude at playing. For an LS which dreams to become very powerful, it needs a powerful core playerbase. Most skilled players will become frustrated if placed in an environment when mediocrity is allowed to flourish or even encouraged.

That said, I speak from my experience. I've never been interested in staying in an LS which only does Sea and Sky (and doesn't do Kirin/JoL much): I've always wanted more content and more efficiency. I guess that's just me though...

What you want and what you're able to get may unfortunately be two different things. To flesh out a linkshell's ranks, it may be necessary to allow a degree of mediocrity. Players may be forced to accept mediocrity in the shells they join due to constraints on playtime. It's not ideal, but that's the breaks.

BLM is useful but my PLD is better lol...my LS never give anyone to be main PLD if come to important fight that need a tank :)

Aryden, you shouldn't even be talking, with a sorry *** nin like that and pld.

no swift belt, no homam, no kitty pants

and yes i am an *** to gimp players like you, i worked hard for what i have, and expect the same from everyone. Like your ls only has one rdm/drk, if that is the case, fail. If you zerging something and have no drgs with angon then your ls is fail hard.

I always rather people come on their best geared/merited jobs for Slavage.


I'm on my RDM a alot. I feel so helpless when I go places on Corsair.

I actually thought it was really weird and peculiar to be asked to come BLU to every Dynamis run I did with a previous shell when we were generally going with just under 18 or so, but after awhile I got somewhat addicted to doing it. I had a powerful SAM setup and would've liked to try it on a handful of runs, but BLU in certain groups just really seemed to be the gum that fit into the cracks and made us all the more flexible. I got bumped to melee caller fairly quickly as well and probably would've hated life as a strict DD when I was in a constant state of switching to new targets before old targets died in order to keep things moving.

Naturally in the Sky/Sea groups I was in, BLU was a rarity and in Sea especially I was *** obsessed with making BLU work well there. lol

Also, you're doing a fantabulous job smacking down dumb ***, Nightfyre. It makes Blazza not being around much anymore hurt less. (SLIGHTLY)

Mainly WHM. But I love WHM so it's preferred. But I also have BLM as well. And I adore SMN so I try to fit it in when I can.

My other 3 jobs don't do much.

I love you, will you be my friend?

No?

Ok, then let me put you straight on some ***. I bust my *** every day, and have for the last ~7 years, I have been *** out of more gear by more shells than i can even care to recall. Ontop of which, drop rates suck *** on the things i ACTUALLY need (re: 35 dynamis sandy's in a row w/o seeing scout's braccae). Like i can make that happen, even with TH4's in the shell at the events.

For the record, no, my nin doesnt have haidate, they wont drop, and no i dont have a swift (now 0/19 tries), what i do have is SKILL you *** retard, which, incase you missed it, MATTERS more. Even with the ***gear i have, I can still solo a hell of alot and do my job quite well.

You wanna talk some ***about me, Homie you better transfer over and step in the ring, otherwise, shut your mouth and go play with your yourself.

By the by, my LOL-AF-laden pld has tanked damn near everything, sky, sea, and ground, and lived to tell the tale.


You should really, really, really, learn to troll elsewhere. No one said ***about not having an lolDrg during a zerg.

Since leadership will never allow me to play my THF, including myself during my time as a LS leader, I had to level something that could get me off BRD (or quit the game out of frustration). In my current shells, I'm now in the same situation as many other people here. I'm locked into BLM. For me personally, this is better than the alternative: being locked into BRD. I did the BRD thing for well over a year, and while I enjoyed it at first, I'm completely burned out on it now.

While I'd like to level something like DRK to take advantage of all the gear I've gotten for THF over the years (Homam, Heca, etc.), it seems like a complete waste of time and effort considering what jobs I currently have leveled. Too many shells have too many melee-only people. I'd never get to use my hypothetical DRK. It's a shame, but reality's a *** sometimes.

No wonder with an attitude like that 7years, and that is all you have to show for. I dont want to hear you *** about getting *** over gear, all of us have deal with it.

With an attitude like...that?

really? you try to slap someone, they then knock you out and it's cause they had a bad attitude? lol you're a funny guy.

This is not my attempt to pick on you Shindo, but I'm using your post as an example to explain a point I'd like to make.

**Disclaimer, I am not trying to recruit anyone on this thread, nor would I have an interest in recruiting people who *** about jobs they feel like they HAVE to play**

Allow me to copy/paste parts from our application thread (full version can be found @ http://www.tolariansaga.net/wtfwrongtod/forums/index.php?showtopic=13 ):

What we look for:
- Positive attitude is a MUST. No bitching, whining, or drama.
- Applicants have versatility in their jobs.
- Sky & Sea access required.
- Merits in the jobs, or willingness to gain more merits in lieu of obtaining 10 more 75s.
- A reasonable understanding of how to play their jobs, including appropriate gear swaps, etc.
- You are not expected to be an endgame expert. However, your willingness to be coachable in putting your pride aside and not getting upset when someone explains your role at an event/camp is expected.

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As you can see, I'm more concerned with finding players that know how to play their job(s) than finding people with Maat's cap and don't have a clue how to be effective at their 75s.

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Jobs including applicable subs:
Please list all jobs at 75 that you are willing to use. If you don't like playing a job we don't want to know you have it. For example, don't list WHM on your application but say you don't like to play it. We expect you to use every job that you list, if we require it. Don't list "I have all subs" unless all 20 jobs are really 37+.

Have any of your jobs been leveled through Astral/Smn Burn parties?
Be honest, this helps us determine if you still need time to be comfortable playing a certain job, otherwise we'll assume you're a lost cause if you didn't astral burn it but still don't know how to cure someone with gear swaps, for example.

Merits:
Please list all your merits. If you lack vital merits for key jobs, please mention how fast you can achieve capping these merits. You could say "I have 200 merits" and still lack 5/5 Overwhelm for your SAM main, for example. Be detailed.

Noteworthy Gear & Gear swap macros:
If you're a melee, we want to know if you have decent gear for TP'ing and WS'ing. If you're a mage, we want to know if you understand how to equip different sets for certain spells. If you're a tank, we're praying you don't fulltime all your enmity equipment.

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Gear is somewhat important. Granted, you join an endgame linkshell to help get equipment, but if you are a mage and lacking basic AH gear, especially the things that are reasonably affordable, then clearl you aren't willing to make an investment in yourself, so there is no reason why our linkshell would want to invest in you. No I'm not saying you need a RDM af2 hat, but if you don't have enough sense to use a Wind staff when casting gravity (or willing to be taught to use certain gear swaps) then we're not interested.

A gimp player is considered gimp if they need improvement and are unwilling to learn. I've seen great players who need help with gear, but have tremendous skill and are eager to learn how to become more effective.

You are welcome to play this game however you wish, but don't cry if an endgame linkshell passes on your application because you think BLM/NIN dual wielding INT wands is more your playstyle for max dmg output vs traditional BLM/RDM or even BLM/SCH using HQ staves.

Get off your *** high horse, it's a god damn game.

I couldn't read this whole ***lol but m/o is if your have muli jobs and your asked to come the same job months on end then yeah thats strait BS. I can see if your needed as certain job to win a run yes no doubt come the job your asked. Now if your RDM every run and you got SAM and BLM too and they not allowing you to play these other jobs ever because some A hole is cool with the leader and get to come SAM every run then thats ghey :0

My locked in favorite job is always gonna be whm. It was ma first even though I got like 5 other 75s whm always gonna be my best. Spent 4 years perfecting it and I ALWAYS carry all my whm gear on me at all times no matter what!

Whm atm, but for good reason; smn is good for some endgame but when you have something better, yeah lol. Will soon have rdm too so might get to do more events on that. I'm honestly ok with whm though. It's needed and it gets the job done, and I like feeling useful. :3

BARD nuff said :/

forgot to add both my characters the one with sea BARD main only :( FML!

I used to be on THF all the time because it was my only 75 but been stuck on PLD for Sky and whatever else. I seriously regret leveling it every day too. There are no words to express how much I hate PLD in end game, so I'm leveling Bard in hopes I'll be asked to be on that when it dings 75.

I'm not on a high horse, thats your buddy Das. Can't have a normal damn conversation w/o douche-bags jumping in and insulting people they dont even know.

I'll say it again, take your trolls elsewhere.

im locked on Dnc!






Ok, that was a lie ;; i'd like though.

I wish I could use my PLD end game sometimes.

I hated tanking in EXP parties but tanking big ***is so much fun. I was locked in on BLM all the time but I have informed my shell I am not anymore and going RNG to events now. I purposly didn't merit BLM and left it gimp so I would be asked to come other things since we have better BLMS. Unfortunatly some of the BLMs who meritted the job still lacked the skill to play it.

BLM. I got to use DRK and NIN sometimes in ZNM fights, but yea.... Mostly BLM. COR just hit 75 a few days ago, but I doubt I'll be going as that for a little while.

i dont do alot of endgame but when i do like dyna and sometimes sky(only did it once..) i go brd.

How many people saw the thread title and immediately thought "RDM/BRD QQ?"

Wish I had this issue myself, but my work schedule makes it hard to do much endgame at all. Has definitely given me pause to consider leveling PLD for the lulz, however. Last thing I want to do is to be expected to bring and excel at a job I never meant to take seriously.

I am so locked into bard, most of my ls doesn't even recognize my 6 other jobs. I mean, ***...I asked for a break for ONE night and be allowed to come something else when they have other people who could come bard. But nooo they "needed" my bard.

Then I went to sea a few nights ago and explained to the leader that if he made me come bard I may as well just afk in Tav since that's all I do in sea anyway(and no one notices). Someone in the ls even OFFERED to come bard so I could go Sam. Nope. So I just afk'd with follow on someone and talked to the PLD on MSN. No on noticed.

Really, I regret ever leveling bard. I'm tempted to delevel it and main SAM. Or I'll just get a Mandau to *** with people.

I leveled PLD as my first 75 (big mistake) and I was more or less stuck on it even after I got BLU to 75. Of course all I did then was sky and dynamis. Nowadays my current LS doesn't really ask me to bring my PLD unless our usual main tanks aren't around. They know I have almost no merits into it and know I'm not exactly in a hurry to change that.

hmmmm. Anyone know of an all BST endgame ls on fairy?