PLD=No Thx?!?!
PLD=No thx?!?!
Lakshmi.Aaroca said:
relic sword?
RDM/NIN can out DD a Pld/NIN
easily with Teir 1 enspells and death blossom spam.
I have 75 Pld and Rdm Atonement caps @ 750 and you have to have
built up a lot of hate to get to 750. I done 850+ on death blossom.
easily with Teir 1 enspells and death blossom spam.
I have 75 Pld and Rdm Atonement caps @ 750 and you have to have
built up a lot of hate to get to 750. I done 850+ on death blossom.
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Lakshmi.Aaroca said:
relic sword?
Actually Atonement hate is capped rather easily in most cases.
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Kujata.Argettio said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
If a pld wants to do serious dmg he needs to do this!!!
The club is too random to do any real sTP maths on it, I just wouldn't over load on sTP for the sake of it. Of course cerb and torques aren't going to add accuracy (as I said).
3 sTP isnt going to break the build (basically it will be 1-3 attack rounds to build 100+TP depending on the number of attacks from KC).
So there is no good reason not to switch to some more acc (or attack when approprate)
Odin.Kalico said:
RDM/NIN can out DD a Pld/NIN easily with Teir 1 enspells and death blossom spam. I have 75 Pld and Rdm Atonement caps @ 750 and you have to have built up a lot of hate to get to 750. I done 850 on death blossom.
And plds don't need that much hate to do capped atonements. Really most plds I've seen can start out with some other ws and have enough to cap by the time they get tp on joytoy. Atonement is also unresistable is unaffected by shell and MDB. Also apparently the circle moves can raise the dmg cap.
RDM has far worse access to gear than PLD, and a lower skill <_<
Odin.Kalico said:
RDM/NIN can out DD a Pld/NIN easily with Teir 1 enspells and death blossom spam. I have 75 Pld and Rdm Atonement caps @ 750 and you have to have built up a lot of hate to get to 750. I done 850 on death blossom.
I'd love to see a rdm hit 850+ on kirin with death blossom.
Cerberus.Geldric said:
Actually Atonement hate is capped rather easily in most cases.
Very easily, under 30 seconds if you understand CE and VE.
Hades.Dizzmal said:
Odin.Kalico said:
RDM/NIN can out DD a Pld/NIN easily with Teir 1 enspells and death blossom spam. I have 75 Pld and Rdm Atonement caps @ 750 and you have to have built up a lot of hate to get to 750. I done 850 on death blossom.
Bahamut.Raenryong said:
RDM has far worse access to gear than PLD, and a lower skill <_<
Na Rdm has access to great DD gear
Kogg or ES or justice/joytoy
walmart
morrigans body
dusk hands/feet
swift belt/v belt
dualist legs/augmented legs(haste)
Kub. beeds
rajas/star
cuch.mntl
suppa/Mamool Ja Earring
Str/mnd(D.Blossom) w haste set up
justice/joytoy enspells will bridge gap in sword skill
enspells hit for +17 dam per hit w/o ES
Well, RDM does have better melee than BLU. I don't wanna hear any more about how bad RDM melee is until they fix BLU's!
Odin.Blazza said:
Odin.Kalico said:
crap
:o
Just stating the facts.
get your Rdm to 75
and then go lv pld to 75
pimp them both out then
talk to me.
Odin.Kalico said:
Bahamut.Raenryong said:
RDM has far worse access to gear than PLD, and a lower skill <_<
Haste, the new accuracy.
By the way, nice gear on your profile.
Fairy.Azulmagia said:
Well, RDM does have better melee than BLU. I don't wanna hear any more about how bad RDM melee is until they fix BLU's!
Hm... only way this is true is
cause of access to multi hit weapons
rdm has Kclub,justice and joytoy
and teir 1 enspells
Odin.Kalico said:
Odin.Blazza said:
Odin.Kalico said:
crap
:o
Just stating the facts.
get your Rdm to 75
and then go lv pld to 75
pimp them both out then
talk to me.
Cerberus.Geldric said:
Odin.Kalico said:
Bahamut.Raenryong said:
RDM has far worse access to gear than PLD, and a lower skill <_<
TY :)
well alot of the stuff i listed
has +dex or acc like cuch.
and rdm has that sexy Ja Compose (melee accuracy bonus granted is +15)
and it can be recasted b4 the effect wears :0
Odin.Kalico said:
TY :)
well alot of the stuff i listed
has dex or acc like cuch.
and rdm has that sexy Ja Compose (melee accuracy bonus granted is 15)
and it can be recasted b4 the effect wears :0
well alot of the stuff i listed
has dex or acc like cuch.
and rdm has that sexy Ja Compose (melee accuracy bonus granted is 15)
and it can be recasted b4 the effect wears :0
The limitation of any DD will always be their hit rate, for RDM this is low, higher than any other mage (barring BLU), but compared to and DD or Tank, it is low.
* RDM is 32 accuracy behind PLD from skill alone.
* PLD has awesome TP gear (hands, feet, legs) homam which has 13 more acc than the equalvant Dusk x2 + Nash legs
* PLD has access to 15+ accuracy from the body slot compared to RDMs 12
* PLD requires 0 WS gear to do any damage (but should the choice, have some great vorpral blade gear: heca,aurum) RDM ws gear is limited at best (morrigans is about the best we get)
* PLD gets a higher haste cap (blitz ring)
So at every stage PLD>RDM in terms of accuracy and haste an a RDM.
A RDM rocking all the acc that money can buy and composure, will still parse around 70% hit rate on merit mobs (which any half decent 2 hander will cap on).
Against anything other than EP-DC a RDM will be missing and doing really bad WS damage (if they ever get TP).
PLD WS value is fixed (well based on factors other than STR, ACC etc)
I know how you feel I get the same response all-day long, which is why im leveling Blu to 75 =]... Might as well get over it unless you get friends to take you pld isnt that great in nyzul, only advice I can give is if they ask for healing magic, go pld/dnc with Mercurial Sword.
I will not go on Nyzul Isle runs that don't have a BLU, pure and simple.
... guess it's a good thing that I'm a BLU.
... guess it's a good thing that I'm a BLU.
Yeah Pld sucks in Nyzul
funny thing when I shout for DD
for a Nyzul run I get a Pld responding
w I got a DD set up. I'm like no thanks
and they get pissed. :o
funny thing when I shout for DD
for a Nyzul run I get a Pld responding
w I got a DD set up. I'm like no thanks
and they get pissed. :o
He never said anything about PLD sucking in Nyzul Isle, and you still haven't defended saying RDM is a better then PLD.
Odin.Kalico said:
Yeah Pld sucks in Nyzul
funny thing when I shout for DD
for a Nyzul run I get a Pld responding
w I got a DD set up. I'm like no thanks
and they get pissed. :o
funny thing when I shout for DD
for a Nyzul run I get a Pld responding
w I got a DD set up. I'm like no thanks
and they get pissed. :o
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You're probably better off leveling a DD job next. My first 75 was a PLD and I was really interested in doing Nyzul but when I found out PLDs weren't used in Nyzul, it was a major downfall.
So I leveled MNK as my next 75. Sadly, once I got it to 75, Nyzul shouts have decreased 10 fold. So yea, :/
Just do whatever you have in mind. Or just start your own static if you want to go as PLD.
So I leveled MNK as my next 75. Sadly, once I got it to 75, Nyzul shouts have decreased 10 fold. So yea, :/
Just do whatever you have in mind. Or just start your own static if you want to go as PLD.
If I join a nyzul run and there's a pld in it, I don't care, but if i'm shouting and making the run myself, there pretty much is 0% chance you'll find a pld.
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