Bismarck.Nyaarun said: »
Haziko said: »
Shichishito said: »
he has got a point tho. if you were subscribed for 12 months after the release of deeds there is no good reason not to be able to backlog.
Absolutely there is. The good reason is that, for the entirety of DoH, it has been pervasively clear that you either earn them or miss them each month. There is no reason to expect that to change now that they added one more reward. The prevailing instruction to the players has always been "go earn them, or it will take longer to earn the rewards." It is a system designed to reward players for participating and being diligent, not for sleeping at the wheel in hopes that one subjectively-better reward will drop than the other rewards (which are all worth the time commitment to different people; hence, you cannot validate it on that logic).
Shichishito said: »
SE still got their money and the players didn't get to skip any work, they just get to decide when to do how much of the chores.
Whether players chose to put in the work to earn the rewards is entirely irrelevant to that monthly subscription. You pay for the right and access to, not for immediate receipt of, content. A player's decision to participate in content and obtain the rewards is completely different.
Additionally, players certainly get to decide how and when--under the same impetus that everybody else is under, which is that you either decide to do them this month, or you decide not to and miss the opportunity to catch up. It's been pretty clear.
Shichishito said: »
no one knew if the final reward would be worthwhile, its a very reasonable decision to not just blindly grind new content without knowing whether it will pay off in the end.
Except, again, this relies on subjectively gauging each reward. That's not the issue here. The issue is whether a player made the decision to participate fully-knowing that they will not have the chance to play catch-up if a reward that suddenly appeals to them drops. That has absolutely nothing to do with SE not respecting a player's time or money, and everything to do with the player not respecting their own. Rather, I would strongly suggest that it is more disrespectful to the player base's time by allowing backlog considering all of the players that diligently completed the tasks each month and put themselves in the position to reap the rewards.
Pantafernando said: »
Given the time gate and all mystery around it, it was quite clear it would be an awesome reward.
Still that doesnt justify the highest time gate in game. Not even ergon takes that much. Neither ygnas. Half of it would be barely acceptable.
Still that doesnt justify the highest time gate in game. Not even ergon takes that much. Neither ygnas. Half of it would be barely acceptable.
The only objective "timegate" here created by SE is the need to obtain 10 more DoH. Nothing else within it is a timegate unless the player chose not to participate in monthlies beforehand. THAT is not a timegate.
If the player chose not to participate, then it is no more of a timegate than Ergon. for example, if you aren't reaching legendary in your coalitions, you cannot go back and re-obtain all the wasted imps. Let's even use something patently less restrictive--Omen. If you did not complete RoV, or the underlying stories, then of course there is a "timegate"--one created by the player. If you have not then farmed for cards/scales, you aren't going to be able to upgrade.
Except that's not timegating--it is an illustration of objectives, which are implicated by every single piece of content in this game. You either play the content so that you're prepared to reap the additional rewards (AF+3, Ergon, Mon.), or you come to FFXIAH and scapegoat SE for your own decision to be unprepared. It goes without saying that the prior poster(s) that I originally responded to are firmly in the latter scenario.
The petulance about this is sad.
Alternatively; The system isnt designed well and could be better. The argument that there is no point in change because the system is how it is isnt a sound argument against someone suggesting an improvement.
Yes its a cheap attempt to keep a player doing "something" for a year instead of releasing relevant content.
But apparently just because they got theirs Monb at very first second, it seems like the content isnt that bad, isnt it.
This feeling isnt even original. Back when ergon was released the very same argument they use to look down on people who didnt spent every single imprimateur available was used.
