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By Tarage 2025-01-15 20:12:25
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Shiva.Thorny said: »
so what you're saying is, Iocus was technically correct (the best kind of correct)
No, he was incorrect. He said last box counts. I said last box was noise. I didnt open a LT, hit another noise, and then open last box. I missed one noise from the first 4 batch of noises.

He was just straight up wrong (the worst kind of wrong).
Wat?

He said you opened a total of 6 chests, middle chest included, and got 5 items, meaning the LT probably was something you already had and thus didn't generate. You said you opened 5, but then realized it was actually 6. I fail to see how he was wrong here.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-01-15 20:26:57
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Tarage said: »
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Shiva.Thorny said: »
so what you're saying is, Iocus was technically correct (the best kind of correct)
No, he was incorrect. He said last box counts. I said last box was noise. I didnt open a LT, hit another noise, and then open last box. I missed one noise from the first 4 batch of noises.

He was just straight up wrong (the worst kind of wrong).
Wat?

He said you opened a total of 6 chests, middle chest included, and got 5 items, meaning the LT probably was something you already had and thus didn't generate. You said you opened 5, but then realized it was actually 6. I fail to see how he was wrong here.

I mean, if you read Nynja's OP at face value then what Iocus said makes no sense.

Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Noise
Noise
Noise - Belligerent Bang
Loud Thud
Noise - middle

loot:
Indi-Wilt
Kidney Stone
Staghorn Coral
P. SCH
P. THF


Indi-Wilt was the loud thud? That doesnt seem right.

He literally said Noise - middle. He listed all the chests, in order, including the terminal chest. There's no way, if this testimonial is to be believed, that the problem was "you opened 6 chests and got 5 drops."

It turns out that he was accidently right because Nynja was wrong, but his conclusion from this information is just plain wrong. He said:

Phoenix.Iocus said: »
You opened 5 boxes and then the last box to end the event. And that last box also counts, so you got 6 boxes and whatever was your LT you already have. Feel free to browse the other 70 pages of this thread to see people respond that they have opened only the exit chest and gotten omen bodies.

Which is just...mis-counting what Nynja said. He didn't "open 5 boxes and then the last box" (according to the information at the time). Iocus either misread what Nynja said or worded his post really weirdly. That is a really strange way to say "I think you opened 6 but only listed 5 in your post because you didn't notice something in the chat log."

It's perfectly possible for more than one person to be wrong/mistaken.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-01-15 20:27:52
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There are no words that can accurately convey the idiocy going on here.
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By eliroo 2025-01-15 21:50:16
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Peak FFXIAH community to get toxic over boxes in troves.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-01-15 22:58:59
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Tarage said: »
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Shiva.Thorny said: »
so what you're saying is, Iocus was technically correct (the best kind of correct)
No, he was incorrect. He said last box counts. I said last box was noise. I didnt open a LT, hit another noise, and then open last box. I missed one noise from the first 4 batch of noises.

He was just straight up wrong (the worst kind of wrong).
Wat?

He said you opened a total of 6 chests, middle chest included, and got 5 items, meaning the LT probably was something you already had and thus didn't generate. You said you opened 5, but then realized it was actually 6. I fail to see how he was wrong here.
He's wrong because he assumed I wasnt counting the middle chest.

Phoenix.Iocus said: »
And that last box also counts, so you got 6 boxes and whatever was your LT you already have.

I stated in my first post that I opened N N N-BB LT N-middle. That post was quoted by Rips 6 hours before Iocus made his post, so "you edited it after I saw it!" would only be possible of I convinced Rips to edit his post accordingly. Yes, I made a mistake and miscounted the N boxes I opened because I'm not used to not having LT loot load. I have multiple characters sitting in the BCNM area when I do Trove and I was just in disbelief over it. I also admitted that mistake when I went back to look at the logs, unlike some people here who will never own to their mistakes, or continue to double down and gaslight.

So yes, he was correct that I opened 6 boxes. Once again, I have owned that mistake after doublechecking the logs. He was wrong because he made the false assumption that I wasnt counting the middle box.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-01-15 23:04:00
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Next time I'll just pull an Eiryl and be a little *** by simply disappearing from a conversation like it never happened.
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By Seun 2025-01-15 23:58:56
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Why not just post the screenshot?
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By Tarage 2025-01-16 07:39:30
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Jesus christ the level of "I was wrong BUT HE WAS WRONGER" is a bit absurd. The point is that the system worked as intended and you didn't get gypped out of a drop. Case closed.
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