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 Cerberus.Yomamato
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By Cerberus.Yomamato 2010-03-01 00:20:39
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Ok guys im pretty sure that the lvl cap is only 80 so far, at least from the live feed.

But heres a theory.

Remember lvl sync? I do... They might scale your level down to 75 while in vanadiel, but in Abbysea, that cap might be removed.

Read the update notes, good gear for minimal work. Level cap only going up for this one area doesnt seem too game breaking for me.

I mean i can see lvl caps going up for other areas as well, such as dynamis, sea, and maybe einjar as well, but for other areas, u might just get the level, not the rewards... you kno?

Also, what will happen to current merits and spell tiers? Thats what has me worried, spell tiers and merits will have to undergo massive rewrites and allot of balancing issues will develope.

I see this as SE attempt at joining the trend of other famous MMOs and raising the cap every-so-often to compensate for new content.

We dont know what the new content holds, it could be scary as hell with the strength of the new mobs, but the new lvls will compensate. Was it game breaking in "WoW" where the original lvl cap was 50? the new cap its @lvl80 now... Hell there are MMOs that even have a rebirthing system that allows lvls beyond the cap. I feel that they have an idea... but remember, they *** over Ranger last update... you remember rangers.... right??

lolrng got so excited that they had less enm- on range shots, that most of them creamed their pants, only to turn into SE personal toilet when they pissed on them by revoking that part of the update.

Remember, its in the works... its not in stone. Stone IV maybe... but not stone...

Tell me ur take on this?
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2010-03-01 00:23:23
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Cerberus.Yomamato said:
they *** over Ranger last update... you remember rangers.... right??
*** yeah I'm sure everyone remembers.

and yeah that kind of sounds lame cause...
*casts RR*
OMG! ZONE!
*has to cast RR over and over again*
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By Bismarck.Rinako 2010-03-01 00:23:36
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But why get lv. 99 if most of the areas you go into caps you at 75? :(
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-03-01 00:24:52
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I doubt it.

I like the fact that the level cap is coming in to play, it breathes new life in to the game and makes new strategies available for jobs.

We're getting a slew of content as well as a new parallel world, new NM/HNM's and a new augmenting quest line.

This is a good thing, and I'm glad about it. People who say level 75 armour is now going to be useless are being very closed minded, seeing as many jobs use low level gear for a very long time.
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By Fairy.Specopsz 2010-03-01 00:26:48
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99 sounds a bit high?
May be that's just me.
May be they'll just raise it to 99 instead of jumping 5 at a time, that way people don't hit the cap in like 2 days.
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By Cerberus.Yomamato 2010-03-01 00:27:14
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Bismarck.Rinako said:
But why get lv. 99 if most of the areas you go into caps you at 75? :(

Why not? They cap allot of things... from BCNM to Maat fights, as well as different forms of capping, like that of lvlsync. This will kinda just be opposite... like releasing the cap... for certain things..
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-03-01 00:27:17
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Not to be mean but this is like the 3rd lvl 99 thread on the main page...
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-03-01 00:28:07
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Fairy.Specopsz said:
99 sounds a bit high?
May be that's just me.
May be they'll just raise it to 99 instead of jumping 5 at a time, that way people don't hit the cap in like 2 days.

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By Unicorn.Moldtech 2010-03-01 00:28:10
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I see it as lv99 in all areas. They uncapping CoP and the level cap why would they keep level's cap elsewhere. Is like when level cap was 50. It wasn't for just a few areas. My understanding of it is lv74 no merits like usual, lv75-lv98 merits are in effect, and lv99 merits are in effect and merits V2.
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By Bismarck.Rinako 2010-03-01 00:28:30
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Just saying, if all areas but like 1-2 areas allows me to be lv99 then I won't even bother.
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By Fairy.Specopsz 2010-03-01 00:28:45
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
seeing as many jobs use low level gear for a very long time.

This was a very good point.
Wouldn't they need a whole new weapon and armor up-date?
I cant see a level 99 Dragoon wearing the same ***as a 75 lol.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-03-01 00:29:26
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Cerberus.Yomamato said:
Bismarck.Rinako said:
But why get lv. 99 if most of the areas you go into caps you at 75? :(
Why not? They cap allot of things... from BCNM to Maat fights, as well as different forms of capping, like that of lvlsync. This will kinda just be opposite... like releasing the cap... for certain things..
BCNMs are there cause of the value vs lvl of the mob. Specifically made so you can make money on them at high lvls and low without being able to just insta win on the low lvl ones at a higher lvl job.

Maat isn't capped

Only specific areas are capped. Trying to do the whole world is kinda ewww and on top of that they said they were removing the cap on alot of CoP areas which were the few non BC places that have caps
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By Unicorn.Moldtech 2010-03-01 00:30:24
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3 segemnts for 24 lv's total maths out to me 3 segments of 8 levels each?
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-03-01 00:31:10
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Fairy.Specopsz said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
seeing as many jobs use low level gear for a very long time.

This was a very good point.
Wouldn't they need a whole new weapon and armor up-date?
I cant see a level 99 Dragoon wearing the same ***as a 75 lol.

No... that was the opposite of the point I was trying to make.

Simply because they are heightening the level cap, doesn't mean that every job will have to start getting new equipment making previous equipment useless.
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By Fairy.Specopsz 2010-03-01 00:31:29
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
Fairy.Specopsz said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
seeing as many jobs use low level gear for a very long time.

This was a very good point.
Wouldn't they need a whole new weapon and armor up-date?
I cant see a level 99 Dragoon wearing the same ***as a 75 lol.

No... that was the opposite of the point I was trying to make.

Simply because they are heightening the level cap, doesn't mean that every job will have to start getting new equipment making previous equipment useless.

Ohh ok, I guess I read it wrong.
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By Bismarck.Rinako 2010-03-01 00:31:45
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I was thinking they were gonna do like... 80-95-99 >.> But 8 levels a cap would be kinda neat too.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-03-01 00:31:57
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Fairy.Specopsz said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
seeing as many jobs use low level gear for a very long time.
This was a very good point.
Wouldn't they need a whole new weapon and armor up-date?
I cant see a level 99 Dragoon wearing the same ***as a 75 lol.
Tp gear should stay about the same.

They aren't going to raise the haste cap so about the only improvement you are going to get is make those last few points of haste easier to get to and maybe tacking on some stats at the same time. Same with like brutal and rajas probably. Hell maybe even PCC which is lvl 33. The list goes on. Mages will probably have it the worst... like normal really.

Some of the ws gear will also probably be good for awhile.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-03-01 00:32:02
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Unicorn.Moldtech said:
3 segemnts for 24 lv's total maths out to me 3 segments of 8 levels each?


Yup, most likely go from 75-83 in the first update.
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By Cerberus.Yomamato 2010-03-01 00:34:36
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idk... SE really likes those nice round numbers... if anything its going to be 75-80, 81-85, 86-90, 90-99
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By Bismarck.Rinako 2010-03-01 00:36:37
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They're releasing 3 different cap increases though. Unless they're gonna introduce 1-2 limit breaks a time idk how they're gonna do it how you just stated Yomamato. And man I wonder how they're gonna do the limit breaks...
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-03-01 00:37:59
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Bismarck.Rinako said:
They're releasing 3 different cap increases though. Unless they're gonna introduce 1-2 limit breaks a time idk how they're gonna do it how you just stated Yomamato. And man I wonder how they're gonna do the limit breaks...

I hope not, I still cry at night when I think about Maat

(inb4 Maat is simple on every job lololol)
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By Unicorn.Riken 2010-03-01 00:38:09
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I believe part of the way they are countering the current gear being useless is by adding the new "Augmenting" system Trials of the Magians, making it so you can add exactly what you want to any piece of gear up to 80 times. Not really sure how they are going to make this not game breaking, But possibly doing things like some of the missions add like +.04 to XX.

This also may come into effect as, once your lv 80, when you lvl up you don't get more hp/mp/atk/def and stats, they just have set lvl's that you'll obtain new JA's/WS's/Magic.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Dawnn 2010-03-01 00:38:46
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Fairy.Specopsz said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
seeing as many jobs use low level gear for a very long time.

This was a very good point.
Wouldn't they need a whole new weapon and armor up-date?
I cant see a level 99 Dragoon wearing the same ***as a 75 lol.


i cant see a 75 samurai wearing a lv 59 body piece... oh wait...
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By Bismarck.Rinako 2010-03-01 00:38:54
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i really hope its not something ridiculous like fighting Maat and his wife and child. lolz
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By Phoenix.Tealsic 2010-03-01 00:39:27
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lol today on phoenix a JP was shouting he already knew the genkai requirements and was offering them for 5mill a pop lol didnt expect scammers to pop up so soon
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By Bismarck.Rinako 2010-03-01 00:39:55
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Quetzalcoatl.Dawnn said:
Fairy.Specopsz said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
seeing as many jobs use low level gear for a very long time.

This was a very good point.
Wouldn't they need a whole new weapon and armor up-date?
I cant see a level 99 Dragoon wearing the same ***as a 75 lol.


i cant see a 75 samurai wearing a lv 59 body piece... oh wait...

Lv. 59 body at 99 goooo?
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By Seraph.Chasuro 2010-03-01 00:44:05
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Cerberus.Yomamato said:

Tell me ur take on this?

Honestly, no offense, but i think this kind of speculation is a waste of time. I'd rather just wait and see what they do.

Off the top of my head I don't see a global level cap. Instead, the best places to get XP will probably be in the Abyysea areas. Old HNM's and such may be level capped. No idea how they are going to work this.
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By Unicorn.Riken 2010-03-01 00:47:47
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Seraph.Chasuro said:
Cerberus.Yomamato said:

Tell me ur take on this?

Honestly, no offense, but i think this kind of speculation is a waste of time. I'd rather just wait and see what they do.

Off the top of my head I don't see a global level cap. Instead, the best places to get XP will probably be in the Abyysea areas. Old HNM's and such may be level capped. No idea how they are going to work this.

If any member of your party is on the hate list, lvl capped to 75? Pretty sure they can do that. Or, for like KB,Fafhogg/Turtle areas are lvl capped. It'd seem kinda silly for them to not cap all current areas of Vana to 75, but cap HNM's, as the gear will likely not be the best of the best anymore.
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By Bismarck.Rinako 2010-03-01 00:50:42
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they could just cap the zones the HNM pops i guess, but idk, they're taking level caps OFF of certain zones maybe to move then to new zones? Then again they never said anything about capping anything.
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