are you people srsly srs right now?
Who are you to decide how others spend their time ingame, unless killing bats and ***in korrolooka is directly impacting your farming ability (in which case youre doing it wrong) then stfu and leave this dead horse to decompose on its own
Note To All Smn Burners.
Note to all smn burners.
Shiva.Borealis said:
Fairy.Vegetto said:
Nothing wrong with SMN burn tbh. Once the job is 75, it's nothing you can't learn in less time than it would have taken to lv to 75 grinding exp.
The whole point is to learn as you level, not when you're a 75 PLD that doesn't know wtf Rampart does.
Level Sync breeds that same result. But I assume you're ok with level sync?
Same trolls still trollin.
Cerberus.Katarzyna said:
Shiva.Borealis said:
Cerberus.Katarzyna said:
Shiva.Borealis said:
Your call mate, if you want to be lazy and level up the chump method that's fine by me. I don't judge... much. But like I said; it's your opinions, don't get butthurt because someone disagrees.
And if you want to waste your time by using the sucker method, that's fine by me.
I don't SMN burn.
No, you would just rather waste endless hours leveling in a "legit" party, going through the same motions countless time. That makes you a sucker. You're a sucker for ridiculous time sinks such as leveling the "legit" way.
By the way, do you ever Level Sync?
You really can't take people disagreeing with you can you. Trying to turn every point I try and put across into an argument won't work.
And yes, I do level sync.
*Cue massive post on how in some way it's similar to SMN burning*
Midgardsormr.Sectumsempra said:
I think even the pro-burners and anti-burners can agree, a gimp *** is a gimp ***, and a person can be a gimp *** if they astral burn or if they EXP all the way up to 75 like "normal people." Does astral burning make "n00bs"*?
No, someone being unwilling to learn makes them a "n00b". Someone cheaping out, gimping out makes them a "n00b". Astral burns are a tool that n00bs can use to stay n00bs, but so is level sync, so is a colibri PT, so are worm burns; ironically, all of these are used by normal players too. I think we all need to settle once and for all that astral burning is just a tool that can be abused like any other thing, but is not inherently evil. My Milwaukee isn't evil, but with the proper drill-bit I could scramble somebody's brain in under 15 seconds I bet; just because I can abuse it doesn't mean the Milwaukee is evil.
*I'm a firm believer than n00bs and newb totally separate things, hence the use of the term like that.
Reposting because it appears as though no one will read something that tries and find a common agreeance.
Shiva.Borealis said:
You really can't take people disagreeing with you can you. Trying to turn every point I try and put across into an argument won't work.
And yes, I do level sync.
*Cue massive post on how in some way it's similar to SMN burning*
And yes, I do level sync.
*Cue massive post on how in some way it's similar to SMN burning*
I can't take people who disagree with me based on idealism alone and not facts, no.
You really have no ground to stand on anymore. There's no difference between syncing at 20 all the way to level 75, and Astral Burning to 75. It breeds the result that you described.
Midgardsormr.Sectumsempra said:
Midgardsormr.Sectumsempra said:
I think even the pro-burners and anti-burners can agree, a gimp *** is a gimp ***, and a person can be a gimp *** if they astral burn or if they EXP all the way up to 75 like "normal people." Does astral burning make "n00bs"*?
No, someone being unwilling to learn makes them a "n00b". Someone cheaping out, gimping out makes them a "n00b". Astral burns are a tool that n00bs can use to stay n00bs, but so is level sync, so is a colibri PT, so are worm burns; ironically, all of these are used by normal players too. I think we all need to settle once and for all that astral burning is just a tool that can be abused like any other thing, but is not inherently evil. My Milwaukee isn't evil, but with the proper drill-bit I could scramble somebody's brain in under 15 seconds I bet; just because I can abuse it doesn't mean the Milwaukee is evil.
*I'm a firm believer than n00bs and newb totally separate things, hence the use of the term like that.
Reposting because it appears as though no one will read something that tries and find a common agreeance.
Eh, level sync is different. It allows people to get together a lot easier and get a party going when most server populations are dwindling.
Rainbow Bunchie dissaproves of smn burning.
Shiva.Borealis said:
Fairy.Vegetto said:
Nothing wrong with SMN burn tbh. Once the job is 75, it's nothing you can't learn in less time than it would have taken to lv to 75 grinding exp.
The whole point is to learn as you level, not when you're a 75 PLD that doesn't know wtf Rampart does.
Cerberus.Katarzyna said:
Shiva.Borealis said:
Cerberus.Katarzyna said:
Shiva.Borealis said:
Your call mate, if you want to be lazy and level up the chump method that's fine by me. I don't judge... much. But like I said; it's your opinions, don't get butthurt because someone disagrees.
I'd have to agree once you take 1 or 2 jobs to 75 the so called "legit way", it becomes a task to lving from 1-75 and really is not fun at all and god forbid if your an adult and have RL ***to do like work lol. Who has 2 monthes or more (if you the type to sit around and seek and not form prtys your self). On top of that if you do endgame...... GL you might get to 75 in 6 monthes lmao. I'll pass SMN burn FTW
No matter how anyone against SMN burning puts it, you all seem to miss the point.
I kinda maybe sorta a little think this thread needs to be brought to court.
Rainbow Bunchie has only got his smn to 42 but he makes his own parties so he doesn't have to main heal. Rainbow Bunchie has levelled up his drk to 75 and made 90% of his own parties. You can moan as much as you want about never getting invites so thats why you smn burn, but stop waiting for an invite and make your own parties.
No one wants to make a pt because they all disband after the first hour when their exparty says it's only 8-10k/hr.
Shiva.Eggbert said:
You can moan as much as you want about never getting invites so that why you smn burn but stop waiting for an invite and make your own parties.
I'll get right on that with the 4 people seeking under 55.
And the 5 people that want 65+ when I'm in Aht Urgan. It's not always as simple as "Go make a PT".
There's so many times I've been to make a PT and I'll find either: no tanks, no healers, no DD, no puller.
Now I'm not saying a PT can't work without any of those jobs. But I'm sure as hell not making a PT when I see:
WAR WAR MNK DRK DRK MNK WAR WAR THF THF THF
seeking.. Am I?
Ramuh.Lilbusta said:
No one wants to make a pt because they all disband after the first hour when their exparty says it's only 8-10k/hr.
Then you've made a bad party, please check and try again.
Ramuh.Lilbusta said:
No one wants to make a pt because they all disband after the first hour when their exparty says it's only 8-10k/hr.
Rainbow Bunchie agrees that sometimes it is hard/impossible to make a party but there are plenty of others things you could be doing in the game.
Fairy.Vegetto said:
Ramuh.Lilbusta said:
No one wants to make a pt because they all disband after the first hour when their exparty says it's only 8-10k/hr.
And so elitist Vegetto emerges again.
It's not a good reason to leave a party.
Exactly my point. With the jobs that LFP most of the time you can't get a decent setup. No one wants to work "outside-the-box" for party setups these days just to keep exp rolling. I'd still take 8k/hr over 3 hours of lfp @ 0/hr.
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Fairy.Vegetto said:
Ramuh.Lilbusta said:
No one wants to make a pt because they all disband after the first hour when their exparty says it's only 8-10k/hr.
And so elitist Vegetto emerges again.
It's not a good reason to leave a party.
Fairy.Vegetto said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Fairy.Vegetto said:
Ramuh.Lilbusta said:
No one wants to make a pt because they all disband after the first hour when their exparty says it's only 8-10k/hr.
And so elitist Vegetto emerges again.
It's not a good reason to leave a party.
lol
Rainbow Bunchie feels that people like you are the reason barely anyone makes parties and encourages people to smn burn.
Fairy.Vegetto said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Fairy.Vegetto said:
Ramuh.Lilbusta said:
No one wants to make a pt because they all disband after the first hour when their exparty says it's only 8-10k/hr.
And so elitist Vegetto emerges again.
It's not a good reason to leave a party.
Clearly 0k an hour is better than 8k an hour.
I mean, in the time it would take you to disband, find a new PT and then gather together, you would of received more EXP.
Ramuh.Lilbusta said:
Exactly my point. With the jobs that LFP most of the time you can't get a decent setup. No one wants to work "outside-the-box" for party setups these days just to keep exp rolling. I'd still take 8k/hr over 3 hours of lfp @ 0/hr.
The thing is.
I see 3 PT's at 56.
I seek on RDM.
I could make an "out of the box" PT and have the most random assortment of jobs and score 4k/hr (yes, I've had that number in an Aht Urgan PT before).
Or I could try and get in one of the other PT's when their healers have to leave. I'm not saying they will have to leave before the PT ends, but why would I risk a potential ~18k/hr PT for one that I know won't make any EXP.
I actually agree with Vegetto on this one. If a party's not getting quick enough experience (definition: to what I consider quick), I'd sooner spend my time doing something else and join / make a quicker party later.
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Fairy.Vegetto said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Fairy.Vegetto said:
Ramuh.Lilbusta said:
No one wants to make a pt because they all disband after the first hour when their exparty says it's only 8-10k/hr.
And so elitist Vegetto emerges again.
It's not a good reason to leave a party.
Clearly 0k an hour is better than 8k an hour.
I mean, in the time it would take you to disband, find a new PT and then gather together, you would of received more EXP.
As I've said before, I and many others don't like to experience, and would rather not experience at all than get mind numbingly slow experience.
The whole "bad experience is better than none" is such a load of crap
Edit - Damn, so many fast posts D:
Fairy.Spence said:
As I've said before, I and many others don't like to experience, and would rather not experience at all than get mind numbingly slow experience.
The whole "bad experience is better than none" is such a load of crap
The whole "bad experience is better than none" is such a load of crap
Imo, it isn't at low levels or on sucky jobs (invite wise)... But I would never join a merit party that isn't any good on COR, when I could get a 25-30k /hour party instead. What is the point in deliberately getting less exp than I can?
Fairy.Spence said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Fairy.Vegetto said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Fairy.Vegetto said:
Ramuh.Lilbusta said:
No one wants to make a pt because they all disband after the first hour when their exparty says it's only 8-10k/hr.
And so elitist Vegetto emerges again.
It's not a good reason to leave a party.
Clearly 0k an hour is better than 8k an hour.
I mean, in the time it would take you to disband, find a new PT and then gather together, you would of received more EXP.
As I've said before, I and many others don't like to experience, and would rather not experience at all than get mind numbingly slow experience.
The whole "bad experience is better than none" is such a load of crap
Edit - Damn, so many fast posts D:
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