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Killer Instinct: The Beastmaster Compendium
Phoenix.Capuchin
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By Phoenix.Capuchin 2023-12-10 19:20:54
Would be good to get an estimate of how many seconds it stays. Roughly 3? could be 2 or 4 accordingly. I think devs are probably using the already existing game cycle of "tics" which is roughly calculated every 3 seconds?
Would need someone with a more in-depth knowledge of FFXI client-server communication I guess.
I agree with Sechs that it seems like maybe it's similar to Sambas' Daze effect. One would think that would have been the easier way to code this, since daze was already a mechanic that existed before Tandem Strike. For DNC the Daze lasts for 10 seconds after last melee hit, including if it hits for 0.
And ty for correcting me on the recent Run Wild testing. All that discussion and I just... ignored that and went with old assumed knowledge :P
Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk 2023-12-10 22:33:00
its definitely longer than 3~4 seconds... i would have guessed 12 from my hazy memory.
10 seconds like dancer steps makes sense. I don't plan to test it though.
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Asura.Sechs
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By Asura.Sechs 2023-12-11 01:15:34
And ty for correcting me on the recent Run Wild testing. All that discussion and I just... ignored that and went with old assumed knowledge :P In your defense, everybody assumed Run Wild to boost macc too.
In hindsight it's pretty stupid and very unexpected it doesn't =/
Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk said: »10 seconds like dancer steps makes sense. I don't plan to test it though. On one hand it doesn't make a lot of sense to test it.
But I can think of several situations where it could be (mildly) useful.
For instance situations where you want to get a boost to your pet's macc to land something (Purulent Ooze?) but you don't want to feed TP to the target to avoid dangerous moves.
Mboze comes to mind for instance.
Then again for Mboze V25 you need a RUN and either a SCH or a RDM anyway.
Without those your Ooze isn't gonna land wether you activate or not Tandem Strike.
And with those, Purulent Ooze is gonna land regardless of Tandem Strike, so...
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Cerberus.Darkvlade
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By Cerberus.Darkvlade 2023-12-26 06:58:01
Hello Guys, on Pangu what is the path of choice if you were to upgrade it, been eyeballing path C, but looking for another opinion, so it doesnt become like my fusenaykio sekka path which I hardly use, thanks.
By Nariont 2023-12-26 08:35:47
Its C, or like most the SBII path, but theres not many cases i see bst needing that one. Hiw much you use it varies on what you use bst for
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By Asura.Melliny 2023-12-26 08:45:16
I would stick with Path C Pangu and not worry about the other two options. Path C Pangu alongside a high ranking Agwu's and Ikenga's axe pretty much covers the non rema necessities.
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Cerberus.Darkvlade
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By Cerberus.Darkvlade 2023-12-26 08:46:48
thanks guys
Quetzalcoatl.Hux
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Posts: 2
By Quetzalcoatl.Hux 2024-01-12 14:53:19
Anybody got a compiled list of T3 and T4 V25 Odyssey NMs that are susceptible to Purulent Ooze?
Kalunga - Works just fine
Mboze - Works but need Rayke + either SC or Stymie Frazzle3
Ngai - ???
Xevioso - ???
Ongo - ???
Arebati - ???
Bumba - Works just fine afaik
Ngai - lands 100% when Aura is up
Xevioso - I've seen land twice with just PUP and BST in about 5 runs - no SC, no Rayke, Frazzle etc
Gigelorum - should easily land with max gear. 1-2 attempts
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Asura.Sechs
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By Asura.Sechs 2024-01-12 15:37:37
Thanks Hux.
Your comment about Ngai implies no way it's ever gonna land with aura down, right?
Also what's Gigi? Arebati? °-°
By Felgarr 2024-01-12 16:07:43
According to this guide: https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Sheol_Shop#Farming_RP
Kalunga, Xevioso, Arebati, MBoze are susceptible to P.Ooze.
Ngai is susceptible only when Aura is up. (When does this aura happen btw? <75%?)
Apparently, Ongo is not susceptible at all because P.Ooze is water-based.
Having said that, is it beneficial to use Unda runes on Rune Fencer to make P.Ooze more likely to land? (I know Frazzle helps for sure).
By SimonSes 2024-01-12 16:16:15
Ngai is susceptible only when Aura is up. (When does this aura happen btw? <75%?)
Aura is TP move based. For Ngai it's Carcharian Verve.
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Lakshmi.Buukki
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Game: FFXI
By Lakshmi.Buukki 2024-01-12 16:34:36
Thanks Hux.
Your comment about Ngai implies no way it's ever gonna land with aura down, right?
Also what's Gigi? Arebati? °-°
Gigelorum
Quetzalcoatl.Hux
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Game: FFXI
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By Quetzalcoatl.Hux 2024-01-12 16:47:43
Sorry guys edited my comment for clarity about Gigelorum. In regards to Ngai.. aura is random, definitely seen a few RP runs where we haven’t fed it enough TP and it hasn’t gone off. I cant say I’ve tried much to land it on Ngai without aura but yeah that doesn’t seem like it’s going to happen.
By Tujo 2024-01-17 07:50:41
Hello everyone, i haven't posted anything here before but wanted to now cause i been playing more bst in sortie and been able to gain access to Blitz thro the prime, only stage 3 so far but aiming to get higher.
Been having alot of fun in sortie on 8 boss run and wanted to check if other fellow bsts have had any experience in there as bst.
I been running with lizard,slug and crab, all with different reasons. Recently added is the lizard for good fast 4step skillchain for procs on fomors, Blitz>Brain Crush>Tail Blow>Blitz is a good liquefaction>fusion>light 4 step.
Ooze is used on all bosses with uses of corrosize ooze for that atk/def- except for Slugs where I'm using crab for just killer instinct no def- move cause that kills people.
I also been playing with /drk sub instead of the normal /dnc cause my playstyle and testing to squeezes more dmg out of my ws's during the short fights than /dnc would. I been leaning alot more towards using /war /drk for my bst cause of berserk/last resort and ofc fencer. From my experience it feels much better, it's hard otherwise to hit high atk for the high pdl amount bsts have access to.
The Blitz btw has been able to perform better than my usual go to Calamity, hitting depending on boss 55-75k at 2120~tp
How has your experience been ?
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Carbuncle.Kyawind
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By Carbuncle.Kyawind 2024-01-20 10:47:45
speaking of which i am curious how to gear up for the blitz ws, assuming its multi-hit ws so the nyame isnt a good option for it right??
what does everyone use so far?
mine is
main="Spalirisos",
sub="Agwu's Axe",
ammo="Voluspa Tathlum",
head={ name="Ankusa Helm +3", augments={'Enhances "Killer Instinct" effect',}},
body="Nukumi Gausape +2",
hands={ name="Nyame Gauntlets", augments={'Path: B',}},
legs={ name="Nyame Flanchard", augments={'Path: B',}},
feet="Nukumi Ocreae +2",
neck={ name="Bst. Collar +2", augments={'Path: A',}},
waist="Grunfeld Rope",
left_ear={ name="Moonshade Earring", augments={'Accuracy+4','TP Bonus +250',}},
right_ear={ name="Nukumi Earring +1", augments={'System: 1 ID: 1676 Val: 0','Accuracy+13','Mag. Acc.+13','Pet: "Dbl. Atk."+6',}},
left_ring="Regal Ring",
right_ring="Gere Ring",
back={ name="Artio's Mantle", augments={'STR+20','Accuracy+20 Attack+20','STR+10','"Dbl.Atk."+10',}},
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Serveur: Shiva
Game: FFXI
By Shiva.Myamoto 2024-01-20 11:12:57
All prime weapon skills seem to be front loaded regardless of hit count. WSD and TP bonus iz de wae. PDL swaps for attack cap situations.
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By Minaras84 2024-01-28 00:48:31
Is there any _actual_ use for Feral Howl?
I mean, i think that 1 point would be enough given all the m.accuracy we can stack these days?
Im torn, cause ive always liked the animation <.<
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Asura.Eiryl
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Game: FFXI
By Asura.Eiryl 2024-01-28 03:47:46
Never really have, not much that a single 5 minute recast stun accomplishes
(It's terror but it's really just an emergency stun)
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By Felgarr 2024-01-28 08:42:33
Yeah, I wish.
Feral Howl should have an additional gimmick if it's going to stay at 5-minute recast. I would recommend automatic elemental-alignment for proc'ing (in item-level content only). :)
...or at last a way to replenish charges? (But this would be lame/poor, imo).
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By Asura.Geriond 2024-01-28 16:53:38
Make it unresistable and have a 10 second duration (15 seconds with Jackcoat augment).
Have it only work once in a period of time if you're worried about a bunch of BSTs and CORs locking down an enemy completely with a FH rotation.
Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk
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Posts: 1418
By Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk 2024-01-28 18:30:14
I have used it for enmity building at start of fight and a stun.. but yeah, the recast is so bad that its almost never worthwhile.
By Upbeat 2024-01-29 02:17:30
terror is the gimmick
when delve deeper and deeper to the hyperspace levels where all is possible and happening right then and there
terror is terror
using howl as a weapon in that fashion
works
if you terrorize something
and it lands
it's done
EDIT/update - for more info:
Feral Howl does not say stun anywhere
if it did you would expect a stun
it notes terror
and says terrorize wears off
leading to believe there is no stun effect involved in feral howl at all
believe terrorize does wear off, a terror enfeeble sticks for the remainder of the fight, even while terrorize does show as wore off
using a weapon skill
facing the mob, as terrorize wears off
has been shown to bolster the ws damage
a curse -hp% has been noticed
terror usually means no control, lost, out of order
which is a weak point to allow bolstered damage
also leads to believe the enemy should deal less damage
the terror lock is the extra
the -def and -atk enfeeble that sticks for the entire fight
+ the bolster WS as soon as terror drops with the multiplier of looking directly face to face(like sam merit)
is the main use
By Upbeat 2024-01-29 11:19:21
bst/cor
TP:
ItemSet 394612
*When Killer instinct is up, switch to ankusa helm and ankusa jackcoat for tp set
WS:
Nyame
*ankusa helm while killer instinct is up
Charm:
ItemSet 390945
Familar with ankusa trousers for familiar buff
charm
dho: bats vs pugil or crabs
bibiki: rabbits vs efts
for killer instinct
quick draw for extra tp build
random deal for the fun of it
bst marksmanship low so does have ranged ws but won't hit on apex even with max r.acc gear since no marksmanship skill gun
Beast roll + corsairs roll
switching as see fit
Quickdraw for extra TP and light shot sleep DOES land
Build 260+ TP each ws, use primal rend
5/5 reward(roborant, poultice both stack to 99 not 12 to remove -str or atk down, reward w/ theta also seems to boost your companion)
5/5 sic/ready
5/5 feral howl
5/5 killer instinct
Sylvie, Koru-moru, Qultada, Ulmia, Joachim
(early trust build, Ayame has a pet buff, and many beast and beastmaster trusts could have hidden buffs)
By Shichishito 2024-01-29 18:22:47
Ayame has a pet buff, and many beast and beastmaster trusts could have hidden buffs {Huh?}
By Upbeat 2024-01-29 20:03:33
Ayame has a pet buff, and many beast and beastmaster trusts could have hidden buffs {Huh?} ayame unity
can wait to sc with pet
+potential hidden buffs from the bst trusts that no one has made public knowledge
Lhu Mhakaracca
Ark Angel MR
Morimar
all beastmaster main
so possibly a hidden buff for beastmasters in theory
then trust like
darrcuiln abenzio
possibly also giving another boost
Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk 2024-01-29 20:09:42
from the bst trusts that no one has made public knowledge
says the guy who doesn't use BraveHeroGlenn's super secret super power to win all things!!
btw,, never said it was an actual stun, said I used it like a stun. talking about practicality in tactics, not game mechanics...
and are you just posting in the midst of drunken hallucinations about 2016 bst solo play?
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By Bahamut.Unagihito 2024-01-29 20:27:13
Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk said: » from the bst trusts that no one has made public knowledge
says the guy who doesn't use BraveHeroGlenn's super secret super power to win all things!!
Dude! You promised not to tell!
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By Upbeat 2024-01-29 21:13:45
Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk said: » from the bst trusts that no one has made public knowledge
says the guy who doesn't use BraveHeroGlenn's super secret super power to win all things!!
btw,, never said it was an actual stun, said I used it like a stun. talking about practicality in tactics, not game mechanics...
and are you just posting in the midst of drunken hallucinations about 2016 bst solo play? sorry our code is not compatible with each other :/
I didn't read anything you said
I don't read your posts much due to our incompatibility
but I do thank you for making this thread
i'll do my best using my trinary
and are you just posting in the midst of drunken hallucinations about 2016 bst solo play?
~ i've played bst since 2006
this is bst solo play from the mire sooo 2008ish
By nattack 2024-01-29 22:45:32
You joke, but Brave Hero Glenn has a legitimate use.
For example, he is very cute.
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