Bubble Trouble: A Geomancer Guide

All right thanks !
I think cata is good if you cant sub nin or dnc for specific party needs

ItemSet 377111

Is this decent for geo melee tp ? Mages/Ternion for phys ws.
Cape should be better with stp or DW ?

For questions like these you should be using the GEO spreadsheet I created some time ago!

Anyway, ran some tests for you and here's some feedback.
I tested in a scenario with Samurai Roll, Capped Accuracy and attack close to cap but not capped.
Things might be different with different conditions.
With your gear the best WS to use is Judgement at ~1500 TP. That will provide the best DPS with the gear you posted.
Need 10DW on the back with that set, of course, you can't leave DW uncapped, that's way too big of a DPS loss.

With your gear and what I just said, you have a DPS of ~2013.6

ItemSet 377112
2158.4 DPS with this set.
(Cape is DEX+30, acc/att+20, DA+10).
Note on feet: Battlecast Gaiters vs Jhakri+2. Both are very close to each other, Battlecast sometimes wins because of STP, some other times it's behind. They're always close regardless.
Keep in mind that, thanks to Jhakri and to the augs on Gazu and Blistering, this set ALSO provide a lot of Accuracy.
If you need more you can swap rings for Chirich+1 and Ear1 for Telos or Cessance, and neck for Combatant or Clotharius. In such a scenario of course Jhakri+2 feet >>> Battlecast Gaiters.
Last swap you can use to add more acc is Hasty Pinion +1.

Let me put more emphasis on the fact I included Samurai Roll in this case-scenario.
Without that, some things might change.
Again: you need to see it for yourself in the spreadsheet!


Speaking of weapons, while Magesmasher+1 R15 can be an excellent MH (or OH) have you checked Maxentius MH?
Because I have a feeling Black Halo Spam at 1000TP should provide more DPS than Judgment at 1500TP with Magesmasher+1 R15.
If I recall it should be around ~2500 DPS, so a pretty noticeable difference, if I'm right.
I think that was the BiS physical setup, from some tests I performed a couple of months ago. Let's see if I can find the old tier list...

Here it is
https://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/41358/bubble-trouble-a-geomancer-guide/63/#3548216

Take it with a grain of salt please, it's not "absolute". Things change according to small factors.

Awesome explanations ! Thanks, im taking notes

Also don't forget to check THIS THREAD for the GEO spreadsheet.

It's your best friend when you need to decide piece1 vs piece2 for a specific slot.

If you've never used a spreadsheet I'm sure me and other people can teach you how to do it.
Try to open it, to customize it with your stats and your gear. Add a target, add some buffs, and test how a specific set behaves on different targets and/or with different buffs etc.

Just try it and ask questions here, I'm sure plenty of people will be more than glad to teach you what you don't know.

Ill try once i get some time. Should be able to find how otherwise ill ask thank you.

We can cap conserve mp in our 900 skill Indi duration and geo sets, correct?

yes we can

I use a TH+2 merlinic leg and feet in this set, shrug just nice having base TH4 on things. Comes in handy when your doing like a lowman dynamis [D], (our ls use to do 9man+9buyer, we didnt want to bring a THF but we had 2 RNG, so we would base 4, then bounty shot up the volte mobs) just preference of course you could always put it on a dia set as well.

ok i just noticed we can get past 1000 combines geo/bel skill and atm i see a max of 1015. Did anyone test if it will break another tier in geo spells?

main={ name="Idris", augments={'Path: A',}},
sub="Genmei Shield",
range={ name="Dunna", augments={'MP+20','Mag. Acc.+10','"Fast Cast"+3',}},
head="Azimuth Hood +1",
body={ name="Bagua Tunic +3", augments={'Enhances "Bolster" effect',}},
hands="Geo. Mitaines +3",
legs="Volte Hose",
feet={ name="Medium's Sabots", augments={'MP+40','MND+5','"Conserve MP"+4',}},
neck="Incanter's Torque",
waist="Kobo Obi",
left_ear="Gna Earring",
right_ear="Fulla Earring",
left_ring="Stikini Ring +1",
right_ring="Stikini Ring +1",
back={ name="Lifestream Cape", augments={'Geomancy Skill +10','Indi. eff. dur. +20',}},

total cap 1015

Switching gears a touch I was comparing Cohort Cloak +1 for my enfeeble set and it seems like the clear winner.

ItemSet 316507
Head/Body
MND/INT = +75
Macc = 107= 97+10(set bonus)
Enfeeble Skill = 0

ItemSet 377457
Body(r15)/+nohead
MND/INT = +76
Macc = 110~120 (unity ranking)
Enfeeble Skill = +34


Am I missing anything? Would like to not waste cards of the af+3 if its moot,

edit: I guess the body+3 maybe the best drain/aspir piece, womp

The 900 skill cap was confirmed by SE a few years ago so shouldn't need to test anything.

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/48432-Effect-Values-of-Indicolure-Enfeebling-Spells

ItemSet 377458
With this you get more Set Bonus, and dont forget Dunna has +10macc.

Cohort still seems to win unless I'm also missing something..

Actual opportunity cost of losing both head/body is +15 setbonus not 10 (go from 5 to 4, regal counts), so with the extra 3macc from switching to crown, total combination is +115Macc. Assume loss of +2MND is negligible.

Cloak has 110Macc in the worst case unity, so 34 enfeeble only needs to make up 5 or more Macc to win, which it does so long as the acc/skill ratio is 0.15 or better, and most people would assume 0.9 or 1.

INT/MND 73
Macc 110 = 50+50(10 set)
Enf Skill = 0

Sorry its early, doesnt seem to math out?

Ah right, my fault. I forgot to account unity bonus on the Cloak..

cool ty for the info, i had a small hope it would be changed :)

Thanks I had forgot about the metamorph ring+1, thats why I like posting stuff like this, focused on one thing and then you find another way to improve. cheers

There's also Contemplator +1 aug(mnd+10 macc+70 enf.skill+20)

regarding the conserve mp bit, here's my sets.

ItemSet 339014
skill=904+augment
cMP=101 103
MP occ. not depleted when using geomancy spells = 2%?
*with a good skill augment in addition to duration, can skip getting the D.I. earring.

ItemSet 338470
skill=904+augment
cMP=101 99 (can hit 100 with apoc. nigh reward earring or a dual wielded club)
MP occ. not depleted when using geomancy spells = 3%?

R-15 Idris good for anything?

Macc, otherwise not really

That's a shame. At least we can melee with it somewhat.

R15 Idris is a good option for several things, but never the best except possibly for macc.
It's okaysh for nuking (especially if macc matters), for meleeing it's not the best but it's a good option (with the immense pro of not having to swap if you have to refresh bubble, or if you wanna give some DT to your bubble while meleeing, etc)


I wouldn't say it's worth it the ~200m of Detritus maybe, but it's not an incredibly bad option per sé, there are worse ones if you ask me.

It's less than 90M atm

EDIT: lol fixed quote (was on phone earlier and failed)

What's a good way to handle the relic +3 hat in your lua? Ideally, I'd want it to be locked whenever I have a luopan out. Is that possible to do with Selindrile's libraries?

What's a good MEVA pieces for idle, would it be Ea +1 (except hands)?