Matsui: "Don't Throw Away Your R/M/E Weapons Yet"

Read better, it was whoever was in charge that said it in an interview. I think it was Matsui already.

Idk about your server but all I have to say is

Wut

My post is in regards to the general panic that OMG THIS GAME IS FINISHED mentality, the quote was just a means to an end.

I'm not even *** kidding. When a shitty Bastok I-IV is booting people for not having an R/M/E you know the games gone off the rails into lala land.

The game has been shaken though, that much at least you cannot deny.

It isn't just NA base that is QQ up in this thread. I see a lot of diversity amongst the butt hurt in here.

Which is *** great. This game needs shakeups because without them everyone reverts to solofarm/duobox mode which is great if you've got 2-4 accounts and horrible for everyone else.

We already have R/E/M buffs on the horizon, how about we enjoy the content instead of bitching? So much speculation, not enough actually doing the content.

it is the games fault that some power tripping abyssea era aspie *** has a relic and thinks everyone else is inferior

clearly

its not like bastok 1-4 is soloable or anything

They dunno if they have the time or man power to enhance R/M/E.

>implying shout groups for the hardest current content isn't also going to demand every single one of their DPSs be perfect Ukon WARs

That would be a case of individual players being HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE not the game in general. This has always existed too, there have always been "Experienced only" or "X gear at least only" groups and there always will be. I just did bastok climb a couple days ago and we were fine even with members below lv 99 for proc covering purposes.

The only VW shouts I see where people only want R/E/M here is Ig-Alima. Sometimes Nyzul Isle shouts as well but NI isn't really something I'd want to be doing with a pick up anyways. Especially when in some cases they are better off with other gear.

I think when a Delve NM takes 99,999 dmg from a 3 blm meteor and his hp only drops by 6% r/m/e aren't going to cut it. Clearly their is a purpose behind the weapons. Clearly they aren't just here to make your *** pucker. People cried and bitched for something that was challenging and they got it. They also got some new tools to do it. I suggest use the tools you've been given until the next bigger and better ones come out and then get those. That is the spirit and point of the game. Constantly strive to obtain the better gear so you can become 'as good as everyone else'.

Someone on BG said that "SE said they plan to update R/E/M without actually updating their base damage". Has anyone heard this as well? I don't remember hearing anything about this.

I only remember the statement about no trials or other means.

I understand the desire for that, because I enjoy having a large number of things to choose from. I enjoy the older content, so in theory I completely agree with what you're saying. People seem to want it both ways though. When Salvage II was released, the majority of the visible response (on forums) was "oh great, more side-grades; thanks a lot, SE. I'll just go back to AFKing in Jeuno." There were a few people who just wanted to enjoy what they were given, and they were a breath of fresh air, but they seemingly only showed up once in awhile to break up the masses of complainers and say "whatever, haters, I'm gonna go have fun."

People want gear that's a visible upgrade (not as "visible" as these weapons, obviously), but they seem to be quite sick of side-grades. Much of the older content gear is already quite invalidated, even without the new gear additions. Of all the old 75-era abjurations, people only really care about E.Body, P.Body, and very few others (mostly mage-related, which no one seems to care about anyway). Sea is mostly worthless. A few people have interest in the body/legs from Arch-Omega, but in my experience I don't see much desire for anything else. Does anybody even do Arch-Ultima? There's NNI, but many of the people we're discussing capped out on NNI gear long ago. I do think some of the Salvage II gear is/was promising, depending on job and circumstance, but there was a large response from people deeming them "sidegrades." Legion didn't have a whole lot to offer, unless you wanted to spend tens of millions of gil on the HQ abjuration pieces.

If that's already the state of these "older content" events, then there is really very little they can do in the way of upping the ante with new gear if they want them to remain relevant. If you want to base the state of gear strictly on DD's TP/WS gear, then the existing content would be in trouble even with more conservative upgrades than what we were given.

I said this previously but if people obtain every optimal peice of gear for every job then what are they playing for? Would they keep playing the same content to obtain all the worthless ***that would never see the light of day? Or would they *** about not having anything to work towards or just quit playing altogether. Stop being butt hurt and get back to playing the game. Go find the new challenges SE has put out for you and be happy that the game you've learned to enjoy playing for 10+years is still available and has new content.

okay that's nice enjoy your game with exactly one event worth doing

it's okay though i'm sure mog resorts will be awesome right

I remember this, too.

i don't think you "sit back and smell the roses" hippies realize how dire the state of things is going to be

i'm personally not too sore about anything but you need to understand that this

1) invalidates a gigantic segment of the ffxi economy
2) shrouds the entire game in uncertainty

and uncertainty is never a particularly good thing

i mean *** - the JP forums have people raging saying they're cancelling their subs - JPs never threaten to quit

I don't think you're reading what I'm saying. I enjoy the old content, just like you do. But given the state of the old content right now, how do you propose they keep it relevant, while still providing upgrades? That's what I'm asking. I'm not saying "f*** old content," I'm wondering what you expect them to do with the new gear that will allow them to keep mostly-outdated-anyway old content gear relevant. I'm not trying to start a s*** fight, I'm seriously looking for solutions that have more substance than "we want to do old stuff," and I'm not getting that.

identical level equippable hand to hand should not jump from 200mil for +52 dmg to +146 damage in the course of an update and a mini-update

I know you aren't this ignorant. I know you honestly don't think that delve gear is just going to replace every peice of equipment you have for all your different gear sets. If the best nuking body comes from NNI then I suspect people will have a reason to do NNI. If the best body to WS for SAM comes from Delve then I suspect people will do Delve. The best gear isn't going to come from any one place which will give reason to continue to do previous content. Even if it is to get just one sinle item. The point is you had to do it making the content relevant in its own way.

Good,230mil -1's are broken as ***.

I said somewhere last night that maybe SE are sick of players abusing the economy and are finally taking a crushing blow to it

Alternatively when the gear treadmill speeds up to mach 10 you can jump off and wait and see where the dust settles

I mean - I'm glad I didn't bother with Skirmish because they trashed that in a month

-1s were 230m because the ingredients were rare as *** because Legion was done by very few people and SE made getting 110 in any given non-food craft cost more than a Mythic weapon

I completely agree, it was unnecessarily large. But even if the jump in weapons was conservative and understandable, they would still outperform anything but R/M/E (and I hope this isn't just a debate about R/M/E). What about the other 15 (or 14 depending on what job you are) gear slots? Because weapons aren't the only thing people desire in this game.

I'm gay - I'm always happy to find a new outfit

Ok so while the gear that is released continues to change and grow and reflect the content that is being released with it you will sit back and watch other people play the game in hopes that it will one day stop?

Keep in mind this was a mini update... It will be interesting to say the least what comes in June.

As opposed to the previous paradigm of Voidwatch until you get 99 R/E/Ms to then... get more R/E/Ms? Most of the post-Abyssean content has been pretty sparse in terms of solid updates outside NNI which most people cheated to finish sets.

So... its cheat for solid upgrades or do content piecemeal for small upgrades? Why the hell have an expansion pack if what everyone wants is more Salvage II? The #1 complaint about SoA is that the rewards were crap and the expansion wasn't worth doing after you got the feels for GEO/RUN out of your system and realized they aren't anywhere near ready for primetime.

Well here we go folks. Solid upgrades and the means to get them involve gearing yourself to the teeth with the previous tier of ***so you can bash ***to get the new ***. It's called progression.

SoA has issues that will plague it but the kneejerk reaction to upgrades in a game where people lapse between "lame, more AFK jeuno gear" and "omg they made my SETS WORTHLESS" is amusing. Half the whiners haven't even downed a Naakual and I'm willing to bet the farm on that nevermind done any Delve.

So lets talk about the real issues plaguing SoA and not the stupid "im not the best anymore" issues.