"The Republican War Against Women" - The Book

Agreed. My major issue is how do we give the potential fathers a say in the matter?

Fancy that. What if the father wants the child?

I agree a woman shouldn't have to carry it full term, but what if the to-be dad wants it?

He did help make it, after all. A tricky conundrum!

Idk in the US I learned about sex ed in the 5th grade, 7th grade, ooh yeah then again in health class in freshman year. I also know that there's planned parenthood all over the place. Btw they pass out free condoms, they give birth control out like it's candy. Oooh there's even medical centers in colleges that will take care of you for free or a slight monetary cost to barely cover the fees so they can get the real life practice they need with actual accredited doctors backing it up. I mean Idk where these places are..... wait I just said it.

OOOOH btw... abortion also can cause hormonal issues, can cause irreversible damage to a womans body as well.. yet they are ok to do it. Yet my idea (while like I said was a over-dramatic and drastic pseudo problem solver) is bad, yet abortions aren't ok.. sure. Oh btw abortions are free to the tax payer dollars in some clinics that help people who aren't income stable. We still pay for it as tax payers don't we? Also if they are paying their own money and the insurances are covering the rest of the cost. Oh and Idc about universal I never once said I care about other countries other than US. Let other countries take care of their own issues, not my concern. Just where I live and care about.

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Also again I think it's a stupid issue to talk about as a serious political discussion but if it will shut people up and talk about issues that matter idc I'll pay tax dollars to get men a vasectomy early on. So any other things you want to bring up?

Except the Israeli airport procedure is still fascist to some extent and you mentioned it as improvement.

All they've done over there is axe the body scan for a far more personal approach to perimeter security. You're giving up a small modicum of your freedom in exchange for potential safety which is the very same thing I was mentioning the TSA and government buildings do.

To put it in perspective, my sex-ed was "don't have sex before marriage."

One class on it. Nothing about STDs. Just an iota of abstinence only.

And this is in NYC.

OOOOH btw... abortion also can cause hormonal issues, can cause irreversible damage to a womans body as well.. yet they are ok to do it.

lol... ***talking you at every turn huh? lol...

I have... every time anyone disagrees with you you call em stupid or say stuff like well if you don't know then I'm not going to tell you because I couldn't do it without insulting you lol... or you just say wrong! You rarely if ever back up anything you say... You talk like everything you say is fact.

I wasn't really backing him up lol... just informing him on how you operate ^^

It's easier to talk about non-issue firecrackers than it is to actually work.

In the grand scheme of things, abortion won't save the country. It's a travesty that in the year 2012 this is still a stupid issue.

But it's much easier to say ABORTION IS BAD! and connect with your voters than something like The current state of the economy is due to [x]. In order to address the issues concerned here, we need to do several unpopular things for [n-years] in order to regain economic stability by year-Z.

Yeah, no one listens to the good stuff.

Most of the disagreements with me are stupid, I've been trying to find nicer ways to say it. Most of what I say is easily searchable or just plain logic. No you were backing him up by directly insulting me when you have no idea of the actual discussion, nor does he as he seems to forget his original post.

To put it in perspective, my sex-ed was "don't have sex before marriage."

One class on it. Nothing about STDs. Just an iota of abstinence only.

And this is in NYC.

I still don't understand if you're saying that males should get vasectomies at age 13 or if they should be allowed to get subsidized vasectomies or what.

Can you clarify that?

Do you even listen to yourself speak?

The first bit has been thoroughly disproven. As for the second, an unsafe abortion, which would be sought out anyways if it couldn't be performed legally, would be even more damaging.

Abortion on demand, without apology. Stop. Telling. People. What. To. Do. With. Their. Bodies.

I think it's funny that you feel bad for me lol... You should focus more of that pity on helping yourself out.

meh, fair enough. Bad example I guess, tbh I haven't fully looked into every countries system, but ours is known to *** up since implementation (false positives, a bunch, and even failure to catch some people (underwear bomber anyone?), the question is, well mine anyway is when these fail what will they go to next? where to draw the line for the false sense of security?

Show me where this was disapproved cause: This says otherwise

And this says other wise too

Oooh and another one.

Btw all actual legit top sites. I could also put in the planned parenthood one but I'd rather you show me first since I just gave you 3 sites that I used to actual write what I said as my factual information. *if you put wiki then you are discredited on the spot*

I don't see it as a false sense of security so long as the checkpoints are there to deter would be troublemakers. Only the most naive of individuals would truly believe that the TSA could protect them from all vectors of attack but guess what? That's not what they are there for.

For every failure to catch someone how many were prevented from even trying? We can go full tilt freedom at airports the same way we could at court houses, jailhouses and government buildings and reap the rewards of that line of thought but we don't because we've come to the conclusion the giving up a small amount of freedom to prevent national tragedies is worth it.

Feel free to point out government waste, incompetence and room for improvement but seriously if we want to discuss government causing all sorts of mayhem look no farther than Citizen's United, SOPA/PIPA and lobbyists hijacking government officials which are things I feel are far more encroaching on the rights of citizens than being asked to take your shoes off at the airport.

Show me where this was disapproved cause This says otherwise

And this says other wise too

Oooh and another one.

Btw all actual legit top sites. I could also put in the planned parenthood one but I'd rather you show me first since I just gave you 3 sites that I used to actual write what I said as my factual information. *if you put wiki then you are discredited on the spot*

Again I'm saying this as a joke, but if it were to be true and some how passed, I'm saying to get it like how we are mandatory to get shots at school (though in clinics not schools lawl) but yeah I'm not being serious about that, but in reality it's safer than women getting their tubes tied, and it's less invasive.

"every sperm is sacred"

I just find it hilarious that men debate a woman's health issue. men should have absolutely no say in women's healthcare issues.

to realize that is the first step in the right direction, me thinks.

Sparthosx, I hate to tell you this but Monty Python was a movie dude...

Theocrats practically own the party now.

I don't mind fiscal conservatives; it can be interesting to hear their perspectives. But social conservatives at least have tended to be the least reasonable people I've ever encountered.