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By Valefor.Slipispsycho 2012-01-28 23:59:23
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I only said I can't really say.. For all I know she'd sell me to them as a sex slave for 250 mil..
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By Eugene 2012-01-29 00:00:37
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Carbuncle.Lynxblade said: »
Im actually Pro life, women and men have all these dang things. condoms, that thing women can put in there vagina then take out w/e, men can get vasectomy, women can get Tubes tied, I hear theres that plan b thing, and im sure there's alot of other things I didn't name and, im sure nothing I did name is 100%, but still

When I hear abortion, I don't think of it being Immoral, Imo its just laziness......

Only time im in favor of abortion is when the women was raped, or there is a chance that the mom or baby could die giving birth, or if the baby has a chance of being born with a serious birth defect.

as much as im against abortion, I hate it when people are giving heat to Groups like Planned Parenthood just for performing abortions, these guys are just doing their jobs....



This a*hole claims that abortion is 90% of what planned parenthood does, when in reality its only I think 4%.(I also only posted to post this video) >_>

I also consider abortion to be the most Sane way to terminate a pregnancy, If the woman doesn't want to have a baby, there is plenty of other(f**kd*up) things a woman can do to terminate a pregnancy.

He also had that statement redacted from the congressional record, so if you ever reread those documents it wouldn't include this embarrassing statement.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2012-01-29 00:01:18
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Caitsith.Zefiris said: »
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I hate medicine, so I just don't take anything unless I absolutely have to. When I had my wisdom teeth yoinked, I'd wait until I was crying from pain before popping the vicodin they gave me. Nothing against vicodin, I just hate medicine. So I didn't have any reason to remember which meds will mess up pills because I almost never take medicine. :-( I should have paid more attention to my doctor, it might be important to me someday. At least now I know it was antibiotics!
I never took the vicodin they gave me... getting wisdom teeth out sucks so bad. >.>
I must be the only person to have a good experience with getting my wisdom teeth pulled. I had little to no pain when the Novocaine wore off. No bruising or anything either.
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By Eugene 2012-01-29 00:02:22
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I hate medicine, so I just don't take anything unless I absolutely have to. When I had my wisdom teeth yoinked, I'd wait until I was crying from pain before popping the vicodin they gave me. Nothing against vicodin, I just hate medicine. So I didn't have any reason to remember which meds will mess up pills because I almost never take medicine. :-( I should have paid more attention to my doctor, it might be important to me someday. At least now I know it was antibiotics!
I never took the vicodin they gave me... getting wisdom teeth out sucks so bad. >.>
I must be the only person to have a good experience with getting my wisdom teeth pulled. I had little to no pain when the Novocaine wore off. No bruising or anything either.
I wouldn't say it was the most painful thing I've ever had done, but I had less pain having a metal rod being drilled into my jawbone.
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By Valefor.Slipispsycho 2012-01-29 00:02:41
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
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I hate medicine, so I just don't take anything unless I absolutely have to. When I had my wisdom teeth yoinked, I'd wait until I was crying from pain before popping the vicodin they gave me. Nothing against vicodin, I just hate medicine. So I didn't have any reason to remember which meds will mess up pills because I almost never take medicine. :-( I should have paid more attention to my doctor, it might be important to me someday. At least now I know it was antibiotics!
I never took the vicodin they gave me... getting wisdom teeth out sucks so bad. >.>
I must be the only person to have a good experience with getting my wisdom teeth pulled. I had little to no pain when the Novocaine wore off. No bruising or anything either.
No I didn't really have any problems either.. It was the front of my mouth that gave me problems, and even now it still hurts sometimes, but it's a weird pain.. It's a weird twinge that's like a mix of pain, tickling and itching..

Wisdom teeth I never even noticed really.. Only that there was a gaping hole on the back of my jaw that I had to pick food out of occasionally.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2012-01-29 00:03:37
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Carbuncle.Lynxblade said: »
Im actually Pro life, women and men have all these dang things. condoms, that thing women can put in there vagina then take out w/e, men can get vasectomy, women can get Tubes tied, I hear theres that plan b thing, and im sure there's alot of other things I didn't name and, im sure nothing I did name is 100%, but still

When I hear abortion, I don't think of it being Immoral, Imo its just laziness......

Only time im in favor of abortion is when the women was raped, or there is a chance that the mom or baby could die giving birth, or if the baby has a chance of being born with a serious birth defect.

as much as im against abortion, I hate it when people are giving heat to Groups like Planned Parenthood just for performing abortions, these guys are just doing their jobs....



This a*hole claims that abortion is 90% of what planned parenthood does, when in reality its only I think 4%.(I also only posted to post this video) >_>

I also consider abortion to be the most Sane way to terminate a pregnancy, If the woman doesn't want to have a baby, there is plenty of other(f**kd*up) things a woman can do to terminate a pregnancy.

the question is: even if it was just being lazy (which it's not) why is that any of your or anyone elses business?
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By Carbuncle.Lynxblade 2012-01-29 00:05:11
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Never said it was my business, and how is it not being lazy?
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Carbuncle.Lynxblade said: »
Never said it was my business, and how is it not being lazy?
Can be opportunistic, reckless or just stupid, it's not always just lazy when someone doesn't use birth control..
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2012-01-29 00:06:50
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Carbuncle.Lynxblade said: »
Never said it was my business, and how is it not being lazy?

Safe sex isn't 100%?

***happens.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2012-01-29 00:08:16
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Carbuncle.Lynxblade said: »
Never said it was my business, and how is it not being lazy?

you claiming to be "pro-life" states it as your business, so yes you did.

I don't see how it has anything to do with laziness...at all.

maybe if a chick didn't feel like taking her pill because she was being lazy but that's really it.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2012-01-29 00:09:42
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said: »
Carbuncle.Lynxblade said: »
Im actually Pro life, women and men have all these dang things. condoms, that thing women can put in there vagina then take out w/e, men can get vasectomy, women can get Tubes tied, I hear theres that plan b thing, and im sure there's alot of other things I didn't name and, im sure nothing I did name is 100%, but still

When I hear abortion, I don't think of it being Immoral, Imo its just laziness......

Only time im in favor of abortion is when the women was raped, or there is a chance that the mom or baby could die giving birth, or if the baby has a chance of being born with a serious birth defect.

as much as im against abortion, I hate it when people are giving heat to Groups like Planned Parenthood just for performing abortions, these guys are just doing their jobs....



This a*hole claims that abortion is 90% of what planned parenthood does, when in reality its only I think 4%.(I also only posted to post this video) >_>

I also consider abortion to be the most Sane way to terminate a pregnancy, If the woman doesn't want to have a baby, there is plenty of other(f**kd*up) things a woman can do to terminate a pregnancy.

the question is: even if it was just being lazy (which it's not) why is that any of your or anyone elses business?
That's like asking What business of yours is it that he murdered someone else?

In our society we form rules for what we consider to be right or wrong. That's why, currently, you can't get an abortion legally when you have crossed a certain point/ The argument has always been "when does life begin?" Abortion is only legal to a certain point. The argument still rages on.
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By Carbuncle.Lynxblade 2012-01-29 00:10:01
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now thats just bringing up a new topic....., Opportunistic? how so?
reckless to me is on par with laziness, NOW being stupid, can mean like not being informed

I honestly think every kid should be taught about safe sex(even though I think alot of parents are against it).
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By Caitsith.Zefiris 2012-01-29 00:10:53
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Valefor.Slipispsycho said: »
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Caitsith.Zefiris said: »
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I hate medicine, so I just don't take anything unless I absolutely have to. When I had my wisdom teeth yoinked, I'd wait until I was crying from pain before popping the vicodin they gave me. Nothing against vicodin, I just hate medicine. So I didn't have any reason to remember which meds will mess up pills because I almost never take medicine. :-( I should have paid more attention to my doctor, it might be important to me someday. At least now I know it was antibiotics!
I never took the vicodin they gave me... getting wisdom teeth out sucks so bad. >.>
I must be the only person to have a good experience with getting my wisdom teeth pulled. I had little to no pain when the Novocaine wore off. No bruising or anything either.
No I didn't really have any problems either.. It was the front of my mouth that gave me problems, and even now it still hurts sometimes, but it's a weird pain.. It's a weird twinge that's like a mix of pain, tickling and itching..

Wisdom teeth I never even noticed really.. Only that there was a gaping hole on the back of my jaw that I had to pick food out of occasionally.
I have very little tolerance for pain. :(
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2012-01-29 00:11:58
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
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Carbuncle.Lynxblade said: »
Im actually Pro life, women and men have all these dang things. condoms, that thing women can put in there vagina then take out w/e, men can get vasectomy, women can get Tubes tied, I hear theres that plan b thing, and im sure there's alot of other things I didn't name and, im sure nothing I did name is 100%, but still

When I hear abortion, I don't think of it being Immoral, Imo its just laziness......

Only time im in favor of abortion is when the women was raped, or there is a chance that the mom or baby could die giving birth, or if the baby has a chance of being born with a serious birth defect.

as much as im against abortion, I hate it when people are giving heat to Groups like Planned Parenthood just for performing abortions, these guys are just doing their jobs....



This a*hole claims that abortion is 90% of what planned parenthood does, when in reality its only I think 4%.(I also only posted to post this video) >_>

I also consider abortion to be the most Sane way to terminate a pregnancy, If the woman doesn't want to have a baby, there is plenty of other(f**kd*up) things a woman can do to terminate a pregnancy.

the question is: even if it was just being lazy (which it's not) why is that any of your or anyone elses business?
That's like asking What business of yours is it that he murdered someone else?

In our society we form rules for what we consider to be right or wrong. That's why, currently, you can't get an abortion legally when you have crossed a certain point/ The argument has always been "when does life begin?" Abortion is only legal to a certain point. The argument still rages on.

no it isn't...

other people have rights, you're comparing unlike things.

the argument isn't that btw, not for people who understand anything about the development of a fetus...
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2012-01-29 00:12:16
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Caitsith.Zefiris said: »
Valefor.Slipispsycho said: »
Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Caitsith.Zefiris said: »
Odin.Liela said: »
I hate medicine, so I just don't take anything unless I absolutely have to. When I had my wisdom teeth yoinked, I'd wait until I was crying from pain before popping the vicodin they gave me. Nothing against vicodin, I just hate medicine. So I didn't have any reason to remember which meds will mess up pills because I almost never take medicine. :-( I should have paid more attention to my doctor, it might be important to me someday. At least now I know it was antibiotics!
I never took the vicodin they gave me... getting wisdom teeth out sucks so bad. >.>
I must be the only person to have a good experience with getting my wisdom teeth pulled. I had little to no pain when the Novocaine wore off. No bruising or anything either.
No I didn't really have any problems either.. It was the front of my mouth that gave me problems, and even now it still hurts sometimes, but it's a weird pain.. It's a weird twinge that's like a mix of pain, tickling and itching..

Wisdom teeth I never even noticed really.. Only that there was a gaping hole on the back of my jaw that I had to pick food out of occasionally.
I have very little tolerance for pain. :(
/comfort

I think I just got lucky because for as much as I'd like to think I do... I don't think I have a high threshold for pain either lol...
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Never said it was my business, and how is it not being lazy?

you claiming to be "pro-life" states it as your business, so yes you did.

I don't see how it has anything to do with laziness...at all.

maybe if a chick didn't feel like taking her pill because she was being lazy but that's really it.

I was stating my opinion that im pro life, which i thought this forum was about

or if the guy didnt want to put a condom on, or if the women didnt want to take plan b afterwords.
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Carbuncle.Lynxblade said: »
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Never said it was my business, and how is it not being lazy?

you claiming to be "pro-life" states it as your business, so yes you did.

I don't see how it has anything to do with laziness...at all.

maybe if a chick didn't feel like taking her pill because she was being lazy but that's really it.

I was stating my opinion that im pro life, which i thought this forum was about

or if the guy didnt want to put a condom on, or if the women didnt want to take plan b aftewords.

not wanting to put on a rubber has nothing to do with laziness, and the other one I'll give you 50/50 because it could be.
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oh wait, you're against abortion but you're all for plan B?

that makes no sense.
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By Eugene 2012-01-29 00:16:55
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Not if he doesn't morally define life as a blastocyst.
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How is not wanting to put a condom on not being lazy?, I can understand the argument that people don't like how they feel(cause I don't lol but I still put 1 on...), but that is a poor excuse imo
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Carbuncle.Lynxblade said: »
How is not wanting to put a condom on not being lazy?, I can understand the argument that people don't like how they feel(cause I don't lol but I still put 1 on...), but that is a poor excuse imo

how is it being lazy?

rubbers suck

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Not if he doesn't morally define life as a blastocyst.

people's personal morals are irrelevant.
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By Lynxblade 2012-01-29 00:19:50
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said: »
oh wait, you're against abortion but you're all for plan B?

that makes no sense.

That also brings up another argument,but like I said, I don't care about abortion being immoral I care about the laziness factor.

I also think plan B said that they are not an abortion pill.
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said: »
Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: »
Carbuncle.Lynxblade said: »
Im actually Pro life, women and men have all these dang things. condoms, that thing women can put in there vagina then take out w/e, men can get vasectomy, women can get Tubes tied, I hear theres that plan b thing, and im sure there's alot of other things I didn't name and, im sure nothing I did name is 100%, but still

When I hear abortion, I don't think of it being Immoral, Imo its just laziness......

Only time im in favor of abortion is when the women was raped, or there is a chance that the mom or baby could die giving birth, or if the baby has a chance of being born with a serious birth defect.

as much as im against abortion, I hate it when people are giving heat to Groups like Planned Parenthood just for performing abortions, these guys are just doing their jobs....



This a*hole claims that abortion is 90% of what planned parenthood does, when in reality its only I think 4%.(I also only posted to post this video) >_>

I also consider abortion to be the most Sane way to terminate a pregnancy, If the woman doesn't want to have a baby, there is plenty of other(f**kd*up) things a woman can do to terminate a pregnancy.

the question is: even if it was just being lazy (which it's not) why is that any of your or anyone elses business?
That's like asking What business of yours is it that he murdered someone else?

In our society we form rules for what we consider to be right or wrong. That's why, currently, you can't get an abortion legally when you have crossed a certain point/ The argument has always been "when does life begin?" Abortion is only legal to a certain point. The argument still rages on.

no it isn't...

other people have rights, you're comparing unlike things.

the argument isn't that btw, not for people who understand anything about the development of a fetus...
I don't get it then... is it not a law that we enforce that you can have an abortion only up until the point of "fetal viability"? To me, at least, that is determining when life is sustainable by the child still inside the womb if it was brought into the world right then. A person who is 8 months in can't say "oops don't want it now."

So there is a point where we examine life and viability. There is a point where we determine the action to change from one person's own personal choice to being a legal issue. There is a point where it becomes someone else's business. Maybe not mine or yours but we are all still entitled to our own opinions.
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By Eugene 2012-01-29 00:20:11
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The morning after pill isn't really a form of birth control, it's an emergency contraceptive for accidents if primary birth control fails.
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I also think plan B said that they are not an abortion pill.

It interrupts the conception process. It can be taken within 3 days of intercourse, at which point cellular division has already begun to take place.
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By Caitsith.Zefiris 2012-01-29 00:20:39
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I don't get why guys complain about condoms. Even if the woman is on the pill, you can get so many nasty diseases from doing the nasty. Why risk your health or financial future for a few minutes of pleasure, especially when slipping a condom on takes seconds. XD

I can understand not wanting to use one if you're in a committed relationship, but people still lie. :(
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2012-01-29 00:22:31
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Lynxblade said: »
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oh wait, you're against abortion but you're all for plan B?

that makes no sense.

That also brings up another argument,but like I said, I don't care about abortion being immoral I care about the laziness factor.

I also think plan B said that they are not an abortion pill.

again like I said: how the *** is it being lazy?

and the only difference really is it prevents it from attaching to the wall (IIRC) instead of removing it from the wall.
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By Carbuncle.Lynxblade 2012-01-29 00:23:06
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said: »
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How is not wanting to put a condom on not being lazy?, I can understand the argument that people don't like how they feel(cause I don't lol but I still put 1 on...), but that is a poor excuse imo

how is it being lazy?

rubbers suck

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Not if he doesn't morally define life as a blastocyst.

people's personal morals are irrelevant.

Ok, that's condoms, that's 1 thing, what about all the other things you can do? seriously, not like condoms are your only option.

and uh..... people's personal morals are irrelevant? isn't that the reason why anyone is even posting atm....
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By Eugene 2012-01-29 00:23:19
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Caitsith.Zefiris said: »
I don't get why guys complain about condoms. Even if the woman is on the pill, you can get so many nasty diseases from doing the nasty. Why risk your health or financial future for a few minutes of pleasure, especially when slipping a condom on takes seconds. XD

I can understand not wanting to use one if you're in a committed relationship, but people still lie. :(
Because men are stupid about sex.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2012-01-29 00:25:58
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Caitsith.Zefiris said: »
I don't get why guys complain about condoms. Even if the woman is on the pill, you can get so many nasty diseases from doing the nasty. Why risk your health or financial future for a few minutes of pleasure, especially when slipping a condom on takes seconds. XD

I can understand not wanting to use one if you're in a committed relationship, but people still lie. :(

^

Agree.

When I'm married I'll consider not using a condom fulltime but before that? Naw, never can be too careful.

If a woman gets all bitchy about a condom, my inner admiral ackbar starts talking.
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By Carbuncle.Lynxblade 2012-01-29 00:26:35
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I'm actually curious on how vasectomy works......does it just completely stop any semen from coming out lol? (would look it up, but kinda eating atm....)
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