But seriously, there really is no debate about this subject. Pro-choice is the only choice unless you're opposed to freedom and want to limit people's rights. Of course, there is a limitation, if you're eight months in, abortion should no longer be an option.
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I agree with all of this.
It's nice to know that not everything main stream republicans say are what everyone in the party agrees with.
I think some of the problem is people still think pro-choice people are all in favor of late term abortions for any reason.
That being said, it is only legal because the law could not stop them from happening and women were dying from infections (clothes hangars are a hell of a thing).
Will it become illegal again? Probably not, the country is too divided on the subject.
However I'll leave you with the thought: If it there is the slightest chance that it is a human baby at conception, even if you don't believe it is, are you really willing to take the chance of committing murder and killing your child? Forget the law, forget any other extenuating circumstances, think in terms of "will you really be able to live with yourself?"
that's not why the made it legal...
as for "slightest chance"
it's not, and scientists aren't at a disagreement here. (inb4 random examples from crackpots, the community> single)
also murder is defined by the unjustified killing of a human being, two classifications that abortion doesn't have.
it's justified because it's the woman's right to her body
it's not a human being.
it won't become illegal again unless they make an amendment on it as they have already ruled on it in the highest court.
an amendment would never pass, despite what the insane right wants.
But seriously, there really is no debate about this subject. Pro-choice is the only choice unless you're opposed to freedom and want to limit people's rights. Of course, there is a limitation, if you're eight months in, abortion should no longer be an option.
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the party is built by them too, so it's no surprise...
then again all parties are, but wow do republicans take the cake.
Hey guys, if there is only the SLIGHTEST chance that Islam is right and that you're all going to burn in hell forever by not joining the fatwa against America, wouldn't you do it?!
I'm glad I was asleep when Leonlionheart made all his arguments, because after reading them this morning my head hurts.
Let's recap for those that haven't been paying attention:
1. Poor social and religious conditions lead to poor/no sex education and/or lack of contraceptives (the latter problem more of an issue outside the US).
2. Cultural and religious teachings create an atmosphere of shame against a woman's body and sex, leading towards sex between young adults being hidden and "dirty".
3. Women who were then raised with little to no sex education, and are too ashamed/pressured into not getting birth control by their families and religion, naturally have unprotected sex and SURPRISE SURPRISE get pregnant.
4. Now these young, sexy, pregnant women, who can't support their child financially and will be socially castrated if anyone finds out must decide between being the social town *** or ending the pregnancy before it develops further (something mother nature does half the time anyways just due to gestation problems during early stages).
5. The same people that are responsible for creating the atmosphere of social anxiety that prevented the girl for having safe sex in the first place then decide that the MOMENT protein bonds connect within the fetal membranes there is a MAGICAL BABY SOUL (even though, as stated before, 40% of the time this magic soul baby will be naturally aborted..). They then spend a large % of their wealth campaigning and electing officials solely on this issue for the next 50 years, regardless of that politician's other beliefs, philosophies, or shortcomings.
6. Those people's kids then come to internet gaming forums and tell everyone else how bad it is that women aren't being forced to incubate their future potential offspring.
If the liberals keep up this Pro-Choice nonsense, who knows.. Women may end up being able to Vote and Pay Taxes too!!
Extreme circumstances I'm pro-choice, all others can learn from their "mistake".
Ofc if this was to ever be the law, every prego that doesn't want the child will become a rape victim or something similar.
Funny you say "learn" because that comes at the expense of a child being born into a household that isn't financially/mentally ready to rear offspring.
But that doesn't seem to matter for pro-lifers, they just want that 'soul' born and then after that fact if their life turns out to be absolute ***? Who cares. People don't have abortions because they feel like it. They do because they're either unprepared or uneducated and on both fronts opponents of abortion are either completely opposed to govt handouts (everyone doesn't have a family to squeeze) or opposed to sex-ed (too graphic!) which is known to lower abortions.
The inevitable counter is 'what if that baby was a potential prodigy?' and to that I direct people to the battlefields of Earth where the next great people could also be 'potentially' dying every day. Why no love for those people? Is it because they don't conjure images of babies when brought to mind?
Sparthosx wants to rear your children. Do you want your children to get reared by this guy? You shouldn't, unless you're a terrible person. Have an abortion just to be safe.
The thing that scares me is that if the sad day comes when abortions are outlawed people will do some very drastic things to abort the baby on their own. It wasn't too long ago where people were esentially damaging themselves to ensure they dont have a child.
I am 100 percent in agreeance with Drjones. Abortions are going to happen regardless if legal or illegal. Might as well happen safely with a physician trained to do such operations.
I don't understand this mentality of "they should learn from this grave mistake!"
Well, you know what, divorce should be illegal so those pesky kids can learn from their mistakes!
Your insurance shouldn't cover your car in a crash, so you can learn from your mistakes!
Doesn't it sound awfully vindictive?
I don't approve of what you've done, so you should suffer! That suffering should be legally and socially encouraged!
Doesn't that seem just a tad bit backwards?
More on this note. This applies better to divorce than pregnancy, but still applicable to both. How can you learn from your mistake if the mistake is lifelong? It's not about learning a lesson, it's about repenting for your sins!
Pro choice all the way. I can't say that it's a choice that I would make myself (I love my Angie, her being pregnant would be awesome.) but It is a right/option that women should have available to them.
Its possible to be Pro-Life personally while being Pro-Choice which is what several people have said here.
Sure, you would never have an abortion, but what gives you the right to force your beliefs onto someone else? Thats basically all you are doing.
I, personally, would never want my wife to have an abortion. But I also recognize her right and every other person's right to do with their body as they please.
Basically this, except two things:
1) This form of "pro-life" is actually exactly what pro-choice is (nobody likes abortion, people!).
2) And the only people that can actually state this are those incapable of bearing children, for whom the decision doesn't matter anyways, etc. etc.
Can you explain the part that is bolded, and what you are responding to?
Responding to "it's possible to be pro-life personally and pro-choice for everyone else." If you aren't capable of conceiving a child/carrying it to term, then of course you never have to consider being pro-choice for yourself, it's not a decision that affects your body. Any individual who is capable of being pregnant may end up faced with having to necessarily undergo an abortion, and that's when the pro-life people aren't as pro-life as they thought they were.
Unless they're tied into the GOP, in which case it's "Choice for me, but the rest of you have to give birth."
