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 Bismarck.Ihina
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2012-01-28 02:14:10
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Just chiming in with my +1 pro-choice.

No profound reason behind it. It's her body, let her do what she wants.

As for the "life begins at conception" argument... I don't see it that way at all. Sure, it could potentially be life, but these days, any cell in your body could potentially create a person. If "potential for life" = life, then I could scratch my nose and commit a Holocaust.
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By Phoenix.Missescakes 2012-01-28 02:16:16
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Lakshmi.Rearden said: »
Sylph.Tigerwoods said: »
If you don't want kids as a girl, don't *** or get your tubes tied
like.


Vasectomy is WAY less invasive then a historectomy btw just sayin either way dont want kids dont have sex or use condom birth control together if you go unprotected plan b!
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2012-01-28 02:17:06
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Caitsith.Zefiris said: »
My sex ed class was pretty horrible. We watched 4-5 Lifetime movies and read chapters in a textbook. Oh, and we saw a video of sperm impregnating an egg. It didn't leave much of an impression, nor was it very informative about the actual act of having sex. :p

My condolences. :P
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By Caitsith.Zefiris 2012-01-28 02:22:38
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Caitsith.Zefiris said: »
My sex ed class was pretty horrible. We watched 4-5 Lifetime movies and read chapters in a textbook. Oh, and we saw a video of sperm impregnating an egg. It didn't leave much of an impression, nor was it very informative about the actual act of having sex. :p

My condolences. :P
Yeah.... >.>

I don't even think it was called sex ed either, something else... It seems so long ago. I'm starting to feel old. Scary. o.o
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By Quetzalcoatl.Khrnos 2012-01-28 02:27:10
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Caitsith.Zefiris said: »
Ramuh.Scizor said: »
Sylph.Tigerwoods said: »
If you don't want kids as a guy, don't *** or get a vasectomy
Or keep it covered
I'm fairly certain any kind of birth control can fail. With the exception of abstinence. :x

But then some crazy lady could tie you down, jack you off, and take your sperms, which is technically rape so the guy shouldn't be responsible for the child... I wonder if that's actually happened. >.>

http://mensnewsdaily.com/2011/02/27/man-receives-oral-sex-ordered-to-pay-child-support/

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7024930/

not exact per your scenario but close enough.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2012-01-28 02:30:58
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Bahamut.Baconwrap said: »
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a fetus isn't a human and it doesn't have rights...

ACTUALLY interestingly enough they do.. kinda off topic I was talking to my friend in law school... in some states u can get charged for murder if u miscarry or even still birth.
Miscarriage? Face Prison

won't hold up in a federal retrial, and those places should be ashamed.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2012-01-28 17:48:25
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Abortions for some, miniature American flags for others!
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By Asura.Poupee 2012-01-28 18:17:11
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The only thing we talked about in my class that had to deal with sex, was babies giving birth. Everything else they taught was just names of bones and muscles etc diseases and drugs. Oh.. we also had these people come in and talk about 50 year olds having sex. That was great...(not really)
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2012-01-28 18:27:53
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Asura.Poupee said: »
The only thing we talked about in my class that had to deal with sex, was babies giving birth. Everything else they taught was just names of bones and muscles etc diseases and drugs. Oh.. we also had these people come in and talk about 50 year olds having sex. That was great...(not really)
Babies giving birth?!

You didn't have have the random nasty looking lady come in and show the class how to put a condom on a banana?
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By Odin.Liela 2012-01-28 18:46:19
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In my sex ed class they made us fondle humongous rubber testicles to see if we could feel the cancer lump. :-( But at least we didn't have to hear about 50 year old having sex.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2012-01-28 18:47:16
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I got 3 days in school suspension for asking the lady to try and put the condom on without using her hands, lol.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xueye 2012-01-28 18:57:14
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I appear to have been deprived a sex-ed.

It was composed of watching "The Miracle of Life", which showed a gruesome childbirth, and "Erin Brockavich".
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By Bahamut.Savannahlynn 2012-01-28 18:58:28
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volkom said: »
pro choice under circumstances.

if they mean to have a kid and if the woman could die in labor or was raped then i think its acceptable .

but if they just get pregnant constantly and abort it. then theres a problem

^This.

Lakshmi.Rearden said: »
Why should a guy be forced into financial obligation and possible psychological trauma and years of debt?

All he has to do is give up all parental rights to the child and there is no responsibility for him. No financial obligations, nothing. In the future, he would hold no right to change his mind and want to get to know the child unless the mother agreed, or the child was an adult and wanted to meet him.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2012-01-28 18:59:14
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Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: »
I appear to have been described a sex-ed.

It was composed of watching "The Miracle of Life", which showed a gruesome childbirth, and "Erin Brockavich".
I'm pretty sure that most sex-ed classes watched "The Miracle of Life."

I think that's been standard since the 70's.
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By Valefor.Slipispsycho 2012-01-28 19:01:11
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Odin.Liela said: »
In my sex ed class they made us fondle humongous rubber testicles to see if we could feel the cancer lump. :-( But at least we didn't have to hear about 50 year old having sex.
Not sure how they got away with that.. If they did that down here, parents would flip the *** out..

I don't even really remember what we got for Sex-ed.. All I remember is everyone laughing every time a medical/technical term was used.. I know by the time we got it though.. I already knew more than the class would teach..
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2012-01-28 19:11:33
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This thread again...
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2012-01-28 19:12:51
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Ramuh.Krizz said: »
This thread again...
And by the same person.

Hence why I'm not taking it seriously... unlike Jesus :P
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By Caitsith.Zefiris 2012-01-28 19:20:47
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It's difficult to take any political/religious/social thread seriously. Tiger just wanted to show the video of the black guys with the blue eyes.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xueye 2012-01-28 19:27:11
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
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I appear to have been described a sex-ed.

It was composed of watching "The Miracle of Life", which showed a gruesome childbirth, and "Erin Brockavich".
I'm pretty sure that most sex-ed classes watched "The Miracle of Life."

I think that's been standard since the 70's.

Friends, that is no miracle.

As the first vagina I saw, I think that's where my phobia of them came from.
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By Bismarck.Elanabelle 2012-01-28 19:29:55
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Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: »

As the first vagina I saw, I think that's where my phobia of them came from.

You have vagina-phobia?

Sorry to hear that.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2012-01-28 19:31:59
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Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: »
I appear to have been described a sex-ed.

It was composed of watching "The Miracle of Life", which showed a gruesome childbirth, and "Erin Brockavich".
I'm pretty sure that most sex-ed classes watched "The Miracle of Life."

I think that's been standard since the 70's.

Friends, that is no miracle.

As the first vagina I saw, I think that's where my phobia of them came from.
Should have watched some porn prior.
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By Carbuncle.Lolserj 2012-01-28 19:33:18
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Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: »
I appear to have been described a sex-ed.

It was composed of watching "The Miracle of Life", which showed a gruesome childbirth, and "Erin Brockavich".
I'm pretty sure that most sex-ed classes watched "The Miracle of Life."

I think that's been standard since the 70's.

Friends, that is no miracle.

As the first vagina I saw, I think that's where my phobia of them came from.

watch out

it bites
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xueye 2012-01-28 19:34:03
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They're terrifying, Elana. Like a horrifying trap made of spider mouths that hold a gate to a hell-stricken abyss.

Scary. As. Hell.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2012-01-28 19:34:46
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Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: »
They're terrifying, Elana. Like a horrifying trap made of spider mouths that hold a gate to a hell-stricken abyss.

Scary. As. Hell.
You sure you're not thinking of the mouth on the predator?
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2012-01-28 19:45:09
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Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: »
I appear to have been described a sex-ed.

It was composed of watching "The Miracle of Life", which showed a gruesome childbirth, and "Erin Brockavich".
I'm pretty sure that most sex-ed classes watched "The Miracle of Life."

I think that's been standard since the 70's.

Friends, that is no miracle.

As the first vagina I saw, I think that's where my phobia of them came from.

It's like going to an MVA on a Wednesday.
You're thinking "That place is scary, do not want." But once you get inside, you realize it's not that bad at all, and then you walk out with a smile.
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By Fenrir.Jinjo 2012-01-28 19:48:34
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God damn, I love when a bunch of people with penises get together to decide what goes on inside a uterus.

Pro-body autonomy, any other answer is incorrect.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2012-01-28 19:48:44
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One little quote:

"If men could get pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament."
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By Phoenix.Neosutra 2012-01-28 20:01:58
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What fascinates me the most, is that the areas of the country that are the most active with anti-choice advertisements are also the most active with anti-safesex education (in favor of abstinence), which ironically enough leads to more abortions..

If you don't agree with the right to choose, and aren't intelligent enough to understand why you're wrong, then by all means, continue to fight to reduce the number of abortions in America. But do it in a way that will actually lower numbers: Increase safe sex education instead of ignorant abstinence based education.

The fiction of "abortion of convenience" where women are just avoiding any contraception and relying on abortions is a myth by the anti-choice movement to motivate men into voting for less women's rights.

Go away with these threads.
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By Cerberus.Logical 2012-01-28 20:06:16
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I'll flat out say it - I'm pro-life. I'm proud to defend and support the legal rights of a cluster of undeveloped cells buried in a mass of flesh. The rationale of my stance is largely derived from a religious origin. As I do not regularly attend church, I have no way of explaining what the organized factions are currently championing as the basis of their argument; I can only explain that my position comes from careful spiritual contemplation and examination of the word of the Lord. I will continue to push for pro-life objectives by supporting proposed statutes that grant protection to unborn children (via letters and e-mails, however likely neglected, to my representatives). The overwhelming majority on the interwebs tends to lean rather far left, but I am certainly not alone outside of our digital corridors.
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By Fenrir.Jinjo 2012-01-28 20:08:00
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Phoenix.Missescakes said: »
Lakshmi.Rearden said: »
Sylph.Tigerwoods said: »
If you don't want kids as a girl, don't *** or get your tubes tied
like.


Vasectomy is WAY less invasive then a historectomy btw just sayin either way dont want kids dont have sex or use condom birth control together if you go unprotected plan b!

A great deal of abortions that are performed involve impregnated persons that were using birth control. On top of that, the demographic is also mostly people in their late twenties who list their reason for abortion as needing to take care of the kid they already have.

Besides that, you are:

1) Denying the pleasure aspect of sexual relations.
2) Assuming that everyone has access to birth control and sex education.
3) Under some deluded assumption that you have any right to decide what goes on in someone else's body.
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