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How Christians can Make the World a Better Place
Siren.Inuyushi said: » Just jumping in here with a few things: Daemun, have you read the bible front to back? If not I would suggest doing it Chronologically. I did it last year and it was very enjoyable. Started back up for another run this year. I've mixed up simple things due to the time that has passed since I've read certain portions. Gimme your address. I'll have one shipped as soon as I can come up with those kinds of funds. (Renting them isn't bad, buying them is ridiculous)
Odin.Liela said: » Ragnarok.Hevans said: » it's the same damn thing every time. it doesn't go anywhere. it's the same argument with a couple of new faces. it's just gonna turn into nitpicking each others post without anything being accomplished. not that i look at the forums as a place to be productive... i just think it's stupid to mock and argue with people over their belief or lack of. I've been only reading this one on and off and not backreading because I'm lazy that way, but I really haven't noticed it with this one. There's a couple differences with it. Most religious threads start off with someone posting something dumb that some religious extremists did *this time.* Then non-religious folks jump on it and say "Look here, this is why religious is bad" and religious folks come in and say "No no these fruitcakes don't represent me, that's not how my personal faith rolls." And then we have a grand mud-slinging time until a mod comes in and chills us out. This thread, however, started with a religious person saying "Look here, this is what Christians are supposed to act like, so please make an effort." Of course there were negative responses but it never ranged into the barbaric and uncivilized realm of name-calling and mud-slinging. It's more people exploring their beliefs and discussing things to understand each other's viewpoint better. (From what I've seen, anyhow, keeping in mind that I did not read all 19 pages.) Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: » I'll take mocking and condescending over violence anyday. I'll take...
hmm... Never mind. Leviathan.Chaosx said: » zahrah said: » Whether we like to admit it or not, ALL religion is fascinating in the historical, sociological, and psychological sense. Not saying religion itself is like a car accident... but it sure as hell can cause em, but so do other things as well. I think I got a little lost in that metaphor. Yes, I am going to continue to 1-liner reply to all the posts I feel like until I'm caught up. Playing the RL card today. Worked on my truck extensively and my 2yr old's b-day party is tomorrow. So you want to play the RL card, eh?!!
Well my cat who is 13.5 years old was diagnosed with hyperthyroidism a week ago. She's doing great with this new medication. Only probably is I have to give it to her every day for the rest of her life. LoL! Phoenix.Neosutra said: » All in all, I'm not here to change Daemun's mind. That's not my job. I just wanted to point out to other people that while people like Daemun believe they're doing a service to the world, there very core idealogies are based on an idea that everyone that thinks differently deserves torture for all eternity. So with that as his core principles, he's a gigantic hypocrite for making a thread asking for love and acceptance. Until he changes that belief, he'll never change any of ours. That's the reason you get so much hate when you make a "thread of love" Daemun. Because it's like Newt Gingrich making a thread on marital bliss. Phoenix.Neosutra said: » Ya it changes your perspective when you realize most of the old testament is completely inaccurate in it's translation and most of the accurate stories were borrowed from other religions. Oh, I bet Daemun thought Jesus was real too lol: The old mythologies were based on constellations. It's amazing that you're worshiping a figure that most likely didn't even exist lol. I never said the Bible was my words. I said many times my OP was what I took from its entirety. I hope that Christians can spread goodwill amongst the world, and stop judging people that don't share our faith. It isn't 'wrong' like you think it is. It is doing exactly what the message of the Bible says. Am I following the 10 Commandments? Am I following Judaic law? Am I following literally every word written in the Bible? No, no and no. Are those the things that make someone a Christian? Hell no. EDIT: I'm very close to our pastor who is currently doing his second graduate stint of seminary. I know the origins of the text and the original document bases. Keep in mind most works of literature from before 500 AD spend a few hundred years in strictly vocal circulation before someone decides they are actually worthy of writing down. Do you think the texts of the Egyptians was written right at that time and was completely unmolested? No. Leviathan.Chaosx said: » So you want to play the RL card, eh?!! Well my cat who is 13.5 years old was diagnosed with hyperthyroidism a week ago. She's doing great with this new medication. Only probably is I have to give it to her every day for the rest of her life. LoL! @Neo
I thought it was pretty well documented that Jesus absolutely never existed, maybe I'm wrong and there are some bones and glowing rags somewhere being kept hidden by a giant spider. Odin.Daemun said: » Leviathan.Chaosx said: » So you want to play the RL card, eh?!! Well my cat who is 13.5 years old was diagnosed with hyperthyroidism a week ago. She's doing great with this new medication. Only probably is I have to give it to her every day for the rest of her life. LoL! I heard from someone that with proper care, cats are living well into their 20's now. My cat is just plain strange. I've slowly been working on getting this feral cat outside to come in. I feed her, etc. She has let me pet her now, and let me hold her for a whole 30 seconds the other day. Lakshmi.Rearden said: » @Neo I thought it was pretty well documented that Jesus absolutely never existed, maybe I'm wrong and there are some bones and glowing rags somewhere being kept hidden by a giant spider. Leviathan.Chaosx said: » Odin.Daemun said: » Leviathan.Chaosx said: » So you want to play the RL card, eh?!! Well my cat who is 13.5 years old was diagnosed with hyperthyroidism a week ago. She's doing great with this new medication. Only probably is I have to give it to her every day for the rest of her life. LoL! I heard from someone that with proper care, cats are living well into their 20's now. My cat is just plain strange. I've slowly been working on getting this feral cat outside to come in. I feed her, etc. She has let me pet her now, and let me hold her for a whole 30 seconds the other day. That's awesome, I love making pets out of ones that start skittish. Odin.Daemun said: » Lakshmi.Rearden said: » @Neo I thought it was pretty well documented that Jesus absolutely never existed, maybe I'm wrong and there are some bones and glowing rags somewhere being kept hidden by a giant spider. Leviathan.Chaosx said: » Odin.Daemun said: » Lakshmi.Rearden said: » @Neo I thought it was pretty well documented that Jesus absolutely never existed, maybe I'm wrong and there are some bones and glowing rags somewhere being kept hidden by a giant spider. Odin.Daemun said: » Leviathan.Chaosx said: » Odin.Daemun said: » Leviathan.Chaosx said: » So you want to play the RL card, eh?!! Well my cat who is 13.5 years old was diagnosed with hyperthyroidism a week ago. She's doing great with this new medication. Only probably is I have to give it to her every day for the rest of her life. LoL! I heard from someone that with proper care, cats are living well into their 20's now. My cat is just plain strange. I've slowly been working on getting this feral cat outside to come in. I feed her, etc. She has let me pet her now, and let me hold her for a whole 30 seconds the other day. That's awesome, I love making pets out of ones that start skiddish. Odin.Daemun said: » Leviathan.Chaosx said: » Odin.Daemun said: » Lakshmi.Rearden said: » @Neo I thought it was pretty well documented that Jesus absolutely never existed, maybe I'm wrong and there are some bones and glowing rags somewhere being kept hidden by a giant spider. If he didn't exist, I would think anyway, that they wouldn't make nearly as much money. Leviathan.Chaosx said: » This cat was odd. Got her when she was 3 months old back in 1998. Grew up side by side with my mom's dog around the same age. She was almost an outdoor cat, except when I came home. When I lived at home after college 2005-2007 she would stay indoors more. Now that I live alone with her, she doesn't even feel tempted to go outside. Just hangs around me all the time. Leviathan.Chaosx said: » The catholic church makes a ton of money making people believe for one. If he didn't exist, I would think anyway, that they wouldn't make nearly as much money. I'm calling it a night. See you folks in the morning. Lakshmi.Rearden said: » @Neo I thought it was pretty well documented that Jesus absolutely never existed, maybe I'm wrong and there are some bones and glowing rags somewhere being kept hidden by a giant spider. There's a lot of evidence to suggest there never was a man named Jesus and that the new testimant compilation from Justinius was simply a redux of some of the other culture's mythos (put together about 300AD, and not made popular til later). However, when I say "most likely didn't exist". I'm not saying "most likely there wasn't a messiah", as it's obvious there was no real messiah story. I'm simply saying it's possible that a man existed that attempted to portray the Horus mythos from Egyptian constellational philosophy combined with a Buddhist ideology from the East. However, that's a stretch as most evidence suggest such a man never existed. Nothing originated about any messiah from that time period until Justinius's work 300 years after.. and even he dated his sources to be 30-60 years after the supposed incidents (sources we don't have anymore lol). @Daemun - This information is readily available, yet education is not. Religion will continue to be widespread as long as education is limited in our planet (2% of the planet has college education, 5% have HS education or higher). Also, people believe what they want to believe. Take this thread for instance: 1. We've explained several logical reasons why your beliefs are inaccurate. 2. We've explained that your religion didn't even start off as monotheistic, and your biblical stories are borrowed/stolen from other cultures, and mistranslated at that. 3. We've explained how there was most likely not even a man named Jesus and that the mythos was told thousands of years before that through 5 other cultures (originating from Horus). We didn't even have to get into big bang cosmology data or evolution lol. Yet you brushed them aside because you WANT to believe your ideology. You answered your own question and didn't even know it.
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zahrah said: » PS Nobody should fear the Biblical or Zombie Apocalypse. There is something more pressing in our midst. Sparth knows what's up! 
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I'm posting from my underground bunker because you can never be too safe in these end times.
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Odin.Liela said: » The world would be a better place if people followed those guidelines, you are absolutely right in that, Daemun. And people of every religious belief and of every background can and should be capable of doing these things. Loving your fellow man, regardless of belief, is something all of us should remember to do. The world is a bad place because there're those guidelines , because there're the vatican and Pope. You don't have to be a genius to understand how to retalation in everyday life , with the other people around you and in the places you're on. The book they come from , well it made possible the born of the biggest "mafia" present in the whole world today. Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: » This whole show makes me rage. My dad watches it and believes every word. The entire series is the same argument. "We don't know what happened back then, so it must have been aliens!". Kind of like listening to a preacher. "We don't know what happened back then, so it must have been God!" Except preachers don't have stupid *** hair cuts and make me want to punch them in the face.
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Lakshmi.Jesi said: » Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: » This whole show makes me rage. My dad watches it and believes every word. The entire series is the same argument. "We don't know what happened back then, so it must have been aliens!". Kind of like listening to a preacher. "We don't know what happened back then, so it must have been God!" Except preachers don't have stupid *** hair cuts and make me want to punch them in the face. The greatest trick the aliens ever pulled was convincing you they didnt exist.
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Phoenix.Neosutra said: » Lakshmi.Rearden said: » @Neo I thought it was pretty well documented that Jesus absolutely never existed, maybe I'm wrong and there are some bones and glowing rags somewhere being kept hidden by a giant spider. There's a lot of evidence to suggest there never was a man named Jesus and that the new testimant compilation from Justinius was simply a redux of some of the other culture's mythos (put together about 300AD, and not made popular til later). However, when I say "most likely didn't exist". I'm not saying "most likely there wasn't a messiah", as it's obvious there was no real messiah story. I'm simply saying it's possible that a man existed that attempted to portray the Horus mythos from Egyptian constellational philosophy combined with a Buddhist ideology from the East. However, that's a stretch as most evidence suggest such a man never existed. Nothing originated about any messiah from that time period until Justinius's work 300 years after.. and even he dated his sources to be 30-60 years after the supposed incidents (sources we don't have anymore lol). @Daemun - This information is readily available, yet education is not. Religion will continue to be widespread as long as education is limited in our planet (2% of the planet has college education, 5% have HS education or higher). Also, people believe what they want to believe. Take this thread for instance: 1. We've explained several logical reasons why your beliefs are inaccurate. 2. We've explained that your religion didn't even start off as monotheistic, and your biblical stories are borrowed/stolen from other cultures, and mistranslated at that. 3. We've explained how there was most likely not even a man named Jesus and that the mythos was told thousands of years before that through 5 other cultures (originating from Horus). We didn't even have to get into big bang cosmology data or evolution lol. Yet you brushed them aside because you WANT to believe your ideology. You answered your own question and didn't even know it. Thank you for being the voice of reason here. This is why religion is such a poisonous institution. Blind faith defies simple logic, and allows for social control and manipulation.
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