Only 1 Real Sub For DNC?

is nin the only sub for dnc? i don't really want to lvl nin as i have not unlocked it, and would rather not.

WAR and SAM are also viable subs.. and WHM for a few situations can be useful too.

/sigh

dnc/mnk

YES! If you're too lazy to spend the 2~3 days to level a subjob. You're probably too lazy to properly use any of the gear you're getting and taking from others who are more deserving.

inb4: "I solo my gearz"

because if I have to watch another gimp DNC taking 30 minutes to kill my KI nm that takes me 3, I will mail them the brick to hit themselves in the face with.

Ähhm noob??

Sephiroth avatar... explains it all.

You have to ask yourself what are your main reasons to play dnc. If you plan to solo then you don't ask this questions since its a no brainer. If you want to stand around and let the serious players kill for you then you can come. Dnc/brd if you want and stand next to the other guys who keyed there jobs up to 90. I lvld dncr when we didn't have dual daggers so nin then was the sub period. I think only time to sub anything else is to pad your ego on nm kill or fast warp or tele after a easy nm.

If you want to be serious ... just up NIN to 50 and try to solo Gieremund DNC/NIN
After that try with any subjob you want, even puppet , you will see the difference.


Please SE where are our good and fun parties where noobs were kick form it .....


Abyssea kill All

If you want do anything front line job wise, youd best lvl nin, utsuemi ni and ichi makes it to where any front line dd job can take a bit of dmg without constantly needing heals

Isn't abyssea to kill all. It's people that kill themself with own hands. The answer is easy:
1) If NM / Mob is loller and you have someone good with you for heal, you can go sub you want, as long this sub is useful for something.
2) If you are alone against a mob that hit you often and hard, you need eva set-up with /NIN.
3) If the party / ally ask you to tank a mob that hit you often and hard, then you need /NIN and eva set-up.
4) If mob use danger TP-move that can be absorbed with utsusemi, then... is obvious /NIN.
5) In abyssea have /nin is useful for trigger the !! with Ni spells.
6) Utsusemi can save you from spells as well, not all but most of them, debuff too.
So /NIN is like the main 90% of the time maybe 95% you will have this sub-job.

Abyssea kill all with the level cap 30 !

why did they do that stupid things Maat cap means nothing atm .


30-90 => 7 hours thx SE XD

Dun even have /nin for your Rdm >.<

I lol'd

You have to level it if you plan on doing anything major with this job.

while dnc has many uses and can do many things . the most all around usefull sub is /nin.

as for the abyssea statment. A friend of mine and a LS mate were out doing trials in sea serpents gratto. when they see that Charby is up. 3 guys run in and start fighting him. a lvl 90 ninja, a lvl 90 dnc and a lvl 90 whm. 30 sec later all 3 were dead.
my friend walks up provokes charby and starts killing him. they start cusisng him out in tells for taking their monster as all 3 are still laying ther dead.

they were full bore Abyssea babies and their skill were so gimped that charby never missed them. here is a little advise to all you Abyssea Babies. Having 10+ lvl 90 jobs doesn't make you uber or 1337. just means you like to open boxes. if you cant play the job and are wearing your Kmart gear. it shows take the extra time to raise your skill . read the forms and posts and maybe you wont be the laughing stock of your LS.

o and p.s STOP Tping in the viking helmet. it for weapon skills.

Other subs can be used instead of /nin, I use /war most of the time even soloing...however you really need high-capped eva to come close to making up for no shadows, which IMO if you are too lazy to lvl /nin I cant imagine you putting in the effort to skill up eva.

That said, /nin is still needed. The more subs you have lvled the better, they are used for different situations and /nin really is vital for alot of them.

Abyssea don't force you to go exp from 30 to 90 in one day. Abyssea don't force you hunt NM, farm seal and items. Of course... you are free to go exp and farm items even 24 hour on 24... it's your fault too if you join a party for kill NM or exp, and you aren't skilled. Because the only thing you did was exp, exp and exp... and 0 skill up. If you have time for exp so much, you probably have time to stop a sec from exp and start skill up. So don't blame always abyssea.

No, Nin is not the only sub. But in most cases, its the best.

/Nin ---> Its really the default. You're going to want this because it adds a great deal to your tanking ablilities in the form of a little extra evasion, shadows, limited enfeebs, more reliable snk/invis. Keep in mind that shadows make it so you dont have to walzt as often, which means you can spend that TP on other things.

/Sam ---> For those times when you already have a tank or the mob you are tanking has fail Acc. This is more for pure DMG and support healing. Sekka, meditate and conserve TP are the real gems here. Although, well timed macros and gear swaps make Seigan/3rd eye become like a defensive TP move if you do it with the right staff, but its very situational. When using /Sam, I keep a terra staff, twilight torque and have fan dance ready to proxy tank in case the mob we are thumping gets a little unruly.

/Thf ---> Spike DMG, hate control and drop control. Self explanitory.

/Mnk ---> I dont have any experience with this sub, but counterstance and dodge would seem to be good tools for tanking, but your defense would be a strong as a level 10 whm's.

/War ---> Pure DD. You will just plain hit harder and double attack. Not really much info needed here.

/Drk ---> DD support, no tanking. Attack bonus, soul eater, last resort, and many of the absorb spells are very useful. Although you wont be dishing out as much DMG as WAR with this sub, with a little thought you can do some cool stuff. Note that you get absorb tp at 45, absorb agility adds a little to your subtle blow and you have access to the stun spell too. This setup, like Drk as a main, is very timing/setup intensive. I only use this when fighting mobs with MP, for aspir samba and already have an established tank. But I would keep this as more for fun time, because your drk magic skills will only be at level 45. One of the reasons I didnt mention drain and aspir as those are very skill based spells.

/Mage jobs ---> pretty much for soloing or teleing. lol

O.O ppl w/o NIN lvled ----> E P I C F A I L

first off im a mage first, this is one of my first melee jobs. k thanks bye


ty for something constructive feedback.

and for those who burn from 30 to 90, try doing things the hard way like we used to.

Leveling a job the old way doesn't make a person better at it.

vary true, better chance that they might learn though. if your lucky anyway.

The only Subjob DNC *needs* is NIN. You can do everything you want to do with this subjob.

Other subs DNC should have access to are WAR, SAM and maybe WHM. Maybe /MNK, but I've honestly never had experience with it, and if you needed those counters you're probably better off going /NIN.

Mmm not really. Experience can't fix stupidity.

While you're out leveling your nin, please be sure to pick up all of the Ni Elemental Wheel spells. Your Abyssite of Discernment will thank you.

Flionheart's reply should have closed the this thread..

lol

qft

Also, levling NIN is worth it for your RDM aswell >_>