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And just how much quicker will 2str kill something?

I mean the str difference between a taru pld/nin and an elvaan pld/nin is 11

Are we gonna start telling taru they can't come as pld because we won't be able to kill fast enough?

We've already been over this... But you're too stupid to understand. So let me take a screenshot for you, since maybe a picture will help someone as dense as you understand.

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As you can clearly see, i have my information submitted but due to an error with the site my info stopped showing up. It's set up. i've told you this... Now maybe you can understand.

Since this thread has trailed away from it's original intent and turned into high school drama that amuses everyone due to it's stupidity..

How is everyone doing today?!

Me, I'm fine thanks for asking. I slice my ear pretty badly and can't use my headset to talk to my firend's in Ventrillo right now, but I'm ok!

Your turn random people!

Proper grammer is cool kids. Don't make your english teachers cry any longer. :3

You're a pain in the *** to face on Brawl :(

Quoted so i can see two simultaneous train crashes. :3

Btw, that's a short train.

I believe the merits in question involve 1 VIT, but regardless this point is seeing a small detail at the expense of the big picture. How often is that 1 VIT making the difference between life and death?
You're placing meaningless weight on your ability to do this rather than making a critical assessment of application and value. I'd appreciate your next response actually making points that matter as opposed to potshots that ignore the realities of tanking in FFXI.
It's not even about the difference between hits for 0 and 1. It's the fact that 1 attack raises your pDIF by some amount, which means your average damage is raised by an according amount, thus leading to more damage dealt and a monster that is dead by some amount sooner. For all intents and purposes the VIT merit had no impact on the course of a fight if it did not save your life. As a fellow tank (though not on PLD), I can't remember the last time I died to a physical attack with a margin of ~1-5 HP. It just doesn't happen all that often, because 1) I don't die much and 2) I generally get hit by quite a bit more than that so the chance of death by that margin is very low due to the potential overkill range. The only condition for STR merits mattering is that you contribute at least some damage during the fight.

Damn, it's been a while since I've played that. People still play online matches a lot?

I honestly didn't look at your picture. Mainly because it's funny making you mad.

You're just jealous that you're not as awsome as I am! ; ;

@Duvessa As Nightfyre has clearly stated, multiple times, VIT and AGI won't do jack ***if you're blink tanking /NIN. Your shadows will be down for a couple seconds on occasions. Then it's more beneficial to simply stack on HP, PDT-, VIT, and Shield gear, rather than rely on one or two VIT or AGI merits to save your life. As for VIT helping with cures, a cure cheat macro is more based on switching from -HP to +HP, and most of the highest +HP comes from Koenig gear (which has VIT!). The 1 merit isn't going to help. As Blind said, those two merit points would have better benefited the OP in other slots.

@Blindphleb I know, right? I mean, I'll be doing STR merits soon, but that's more for my WAR than anything. But I only have 66 base VIT! Maybe I should delevel my PLD and quit altogether! D:

And with that, I'm done for tonight. Sorry I derailed the thread so miserably. But I think the OP got their answer within the first couple responses.

The only reason 2 str was brought up was because the OP has 1 vit and 1 agi merit. I said 2 str instead of 1 in each of those wouldnt really make any difference at all. So if you're trying to compare VIT and STR exclusively, the values must be equal.

Are you really a Mithra Nightfyre? I remember you posting pics to that effect but you never stick pics of your char anywhere it seems :(

I was a Marth main in SSBM =D Not so much in Brawl though... I actually liked Wolf better.

I play Ike mainly just because he's fun. I don't think he's all that amazing but it's so satisfying just absolutely decimating someone at 30% or something stupid.

Marth is of course horrendously difficult for Ike since he is fast AND strong. Ho hum.

Tried playing it online a few times but gave up due to the horrendous lag <_<

Wolf is great, but as my name suggests, Marth for life. Pit is my second guy though.

I found Roy on Siren too, that was fun.

Jingles, we've already proven you know nothing of the actual mechanics of the game. Besides, if 1 additional stat point didn't matter, then almost none of the HQ items would ever sell. Also, a PLD won't cap Cure 4, which is the most hate per mp spent of any cure spell, without gear for it. This means they need vit/mnd/etc. This is quite commonly placed in slots where other optimal gear is not readily available (such as enmity+).

No, that was my mule ; ; Hume 1B.


Who said I was exclusively comparing STR and VIT? I can do that if you like and my position won't change, but my argument has been made from the frame of the 3 STR 1 VIT 1 AGI merits in question.

Also,
Derp. Yous trollin?

You just used a double negative superior linguist.

Stop trying to derail.

I remember the first Super Smash Bros. when Kirby was awesome. I miss that.

I do too Mcclane :( Ness was awesome back then. Still my main to this day.

:((( I feel your pain.

Oh! I forgot. I also love annoying people with Falco. He's so fast and evasive - I used to just play hit and run all day. Good fun.

Point it out?

Kirby is still awsome!

Kirby is too light and gets thrown around too easily :/

My sister used to always eat me with Kirby and fly off of the stage. SO ANNOYING AND CHEAP WTF

We need Mewtwo back god damnit. He was awsome.

This thread is now about SSBB.
I played Ike for a while but gave up on him. I hate slow characters. Marth's style in SSBM suited mine perfectly, but he felt just slow enough in Brawl that I wasn't as comfortable with him. So of course I moved to a slower character >_> Go figure. Wolf has great spacing and decent pressure as I recall though, plus he's pretty strong...

Idk Duvessa. When you go in and edit it like the little pussy you are it's hard to find it.

I hated that too Raen =/ My friend would do that all the time. Kirby was such a boss back in the original. Then he just became... almost baby-like.

I just love the way Ike punishes. One mistake and you're GONE. Counter is also very tasty if you're good with timing though Ike's recovery options are kinda bad (combined with the fact he lunges enthusiastically a lot, me and my friends who played to this day use the verb "to Ike", meaning to accidentally kill yourself).