New Hacker Found...

You've never been hacked i guess.

Some peace of mind and a mog satchel is worth $10 to me.

How long till other MMO's follow ffxi with security tokens.

FFXI followed other MMOs in getting them.

SE got theirs April 6, 2009

I paid for one about 6-7 months ago, never got it.

The real way to hack a security token is to implant a trojan that is essentially a fake login screen. You enter the token code, and even if right, it will say it's wrong. The Receiving hacker then has the POL password and the Token password, and can immediately log in. That's just a broad stroke of how the token hacking goes. It's a lot more intricate than that, at least in the details. World of Warcraft security tokened accounts get hacked all the time through that means. It's very hard, but very possible.

Same problem here. Called them (finally) and they claimed that they were unable to deliver it(for some unknown reason) and said they would resend our token. 3 months later, repeat process. 1 month after that, repeat with a different address(apparently UPS says my home doesnt exist so we gave them the address to a UPS store in town). 3 weeks later.... same thing. We called them up and they had some bizaar address listed for us. *bangs head on wall* On to attempt 5. Makes me wonder if they have some of those RMT working in their sales center. 'www.Br8.... (8=0)' morons....

Keep bugging em, if they are un-helpful, request to speak to someone higher up. Complain... alot. Be polite but make its understood that they charged you for a product you never received. (we were charged for ours months before they ever tried to ship it, which is pretty illegal if i remember correctly >.> )

Hopefully this time we actually get it, tho im not holding my breath.

Idk buying a token that gives a bit more security + 80 more inventory space defeats the whole purpose of paying for a monthly MMO game.

It's just like playing one of those free MMO games you can play it, level it, but life is a lot more easier if you buy form their online store hence "more invetory space, sure give us $10 USD and there you go.

If anything SE should have just given Tokens to all players with accounts to tighten up their security. I'm telling you it's just to get your money even a measly $10 can add up to a alot. Mind you there's still a good +1000 playing per server lets just say each baught one that's $10,000 and lets say they did make them for $1 each so they just gained a whopping $9,000. That's not even including people that baught more than 1, and that's just for one server. Think about it.

EDIT: Quote didn't work. >_>

I think you misunderstood me. I was saying that the idea that a single password ONCE ENTERED is active for 15 minutes is absolutely ludicrous and would make the tokens a sham. Every number is good for 60 seconds. The tokens are valuable and I use them. I wasn't saying that they were a sham I was telling the person ahead of me that what he said was ridiculous.

Square Enix is a huge corporation...9 or 10 thousand dollars to them is chump change >.>

I reread what the person you quoted said. He said it correctly. The numbers on the token do change every 30 seconds to a new value, but the previous numbers it has generated are still good for up to 15 minutes after it has been displayed. Once you enter that code it and all previous codes before it can no longer be used.

Edit: I still think I read somewhere it was 30 minutes, though. I'll have to try it some time.

I highly doubt that they're good for up to 15 minutes since I've entered a number after the 60 second mark and it wouldn't log me in.

ops, I lied. I have given my mule account to lots of ppl, probably like 10 different ppl lol. I only have a RDM 75 and a few 100k on that account anyway, so it wouldnt be a big deal if i lost it. I've let several ppl use that account how ever they wanted in order to see if they were intrested enough in the game to start playing.

Just don't surf weird sites, and be pre " Oldskool " about your surf habits..

Token or not... same thing above applies... just watch your surfing habits and don't pass info to friends.

and make sure your anti virus programs are legit or real, meaning you didnt DL a copy from Bit torrent and said you got it free..


Sometimes Free, can get land you into trouble with added spyware...

/comfort.. just be careful.

having a complex PW helps too. a lot of ppl that play this game and others have VERY easy PWs. an Alpha-numeric password helps also. a PW that's not associated with your real name POL ID or anything related to you works well.



Not giving out your PW and info always work best.