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 Asura.Eiryl
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By Asura.Eiryl 2023-06-10 15:56:50
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Some of it is still janked up. I wouldn't blindly accept a couple of the weird ones.

Every weapon should be made in like two more days. Even if 99% of them are staves.
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By Asura.Saevel 2023-06-10 19:19:15
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kuroki said: »
pretty sure it is a typo, great sword h2h and great katana is detonation compression distortion to 3 step, wouldn't make sense for sword not to be.

Yeah it's likely Detonation, but still that's not nearly as useful as Liquefaction / Impaction or just a straight up Fusion. Having access to Fusion on RDM has been amazing but BLU doesn't have that option. Worst case we can do Vorpal -> New Sword WS -> New Sword WS -> Expacion for a four step darkness, but no double dark unfortunately.
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By Cerberus.Shadowmeld 2023-06-10 22:33:52
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maybe New sword WS => New sword WS => Savage => Expiation

For Grav => Frag => Distortion

Then Requiescat for Darkness... lol
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By Hopalong 2023-06-10 22:33:55
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stands to reason it will keep its damage resistance to non prime weapons since they want a fight where you need them.

Wow, that's diabolical!
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By Dodik 2023-06-11 08:46:09
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Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Weeks/months is an exaggeration.

It personally took me 4 months to get enough alex for 3 mythics. YMMV.
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By Asura.Saevel 2023-06-11 13:18:14
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Cerberus.Shadowmeld said: »
maybe New sword WS => New sword WS => Savage => Expiation

For Grav => Frag => Distortion

Then Requiescat for Darkness... lol

Yeah ... Requiescat is just bleh, I really wish RDM and BLU has access to Swift Blade. Like why are we still locking away WS's as EX nowadays. I was really looking forward to being able to have a reliable Fusion on BLU, guess we can just settle for four step darkness. Vorpal Blade -> New WS (detonation) -> New WS (Gravitation) -> Expacion (Darkness). Great Sword has it even worse, totally useless on WAR though DRK could get something out of it due to Torc being Distortion for darkness closing.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2023-06-11 20:09:14
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Those very few times you need Requiescat, its a great WS!
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By Asura.Disclai 2023-06-21 06:53:53
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(Didn't want to derail the testing thread.) Got my 1m, but still torn on what to take.

Tempted to try dagger since I'm often on RDM or occasionally BRD lately in Sortie, and it's multi-job, but I feel like there's a strong chance it's meh... Really, feels as though almost all the 1h ones are going to have difficulty competing with existing options (*cough* Naegling's broken attack buff). Caliburnus reports didn't assuage that.

Similarly I love my NIN, but I have a hard time believing a physical Katana WS is going to be worthwhile. Guess another option would be polearm for DRG... Ugh.
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By Dodik 2023-06-21 07:04:06
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Polearm is likely a good bet if you play a lot of drg.

Instrument looks good if you similarly play a lot of brd.

But if you main Nin and really want a new katana.. Choose what you want to play with most :)
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By SimonSes 2023-06-21 07:07:02
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Asura.Disclai said: »
(Didn't want to derail the testing thread.) Got my 1m, but still torn on what to take.

Tempted to try dagger since I'm often on RDM or occasionally BRD lately in Sortie, and it's multi-job, but I feel like there's a strong chance it's meh... Really, feels as though almost all the 1h ones are going to have difficulty competing with existing options (*cough* Naegling's broken attack buff). Caliburnus reports didn't assuage that.

Similarly I love my NIN, but I have a hard time believing a physical Katana WS is going to be worthwhile. Guess another option would be polearm for DRG... Ugh.

You can wait several days. I will probably make dagger because im stupid and I will test it then.
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By Bahamut.Mischief 2023-07-10 02:22:02
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Dumping it here to avoid cluttering up the WS thread.

Stage 5 Prime Weapon Requirements:

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By Asura.Bynebill 2023-07-10 02:29:14
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So about 6 months time locked (psyches) per stage1-5 Prime weapon, assuming you at least average a bit under 50k galli/run?
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By SimonSes 2023-07-10 02:33:31
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Asura.Bynebill said: »
So about 6 months time locked (psyches) per stage1-5 Prime weapon, assuming you at least average a bit under 50k galli/run?

I think they avg around 70k if not more.
They avg around 85k (just got the info from source).
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By Dubaiii 2023-07-10 02:37:56
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SimonSes said: »
Asura.Bynebill said: »
So about 6 months time locked (psyches) per stage1-5 Prime weapon, assuming you at least average a bit under 50k galli/run?

I think they avg around 70k if not more.
They avg around 85k (just got the info from source).

How does someone everyday do in 1h 85k?
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By Foxfire 2023-07-10 02:46:31
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thanks mischief. updated the prime weapon page with the info.
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By Tarage 2023-07-10 02:48:25
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Soloable huh?
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By Dodik 2023-07-10 02:54:33
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Technically soloable. In about 5 years.
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By Asura.Sechs 2023-07-10 02:56:01
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I really wonder what they were thinking with the *drite stones.
Why are they even there?
I mean...


Maybe they have plans to activate additional systems in the future.
That must be the reason.
I refuse to believe they had no plans for them.
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By Asura.Bynebill 2023-07-10 03:52:11
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SimonSes said: »
I think they avg around 70k if not more.
They avg around 85k (just got the info from source).

Just meant in general, if you at least average around 47k~ run a prime will take a person 6 months per full prime, Getting more galli than that still forces you to wait the same amount of time due to 5 psyche per month wait. If you don't average at least that then time to make increases from 6 months.
 
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By SimonSes 2023-07-10 03:59:09
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Dubaiii said: »
How does someone everyday do in 1h 85k?

Mischief corrected me slightly its 80-82k

They kill all 8/8 bosses and Aminon. That alone is 78k. Rest is from roaming NMs and some chests.
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By SimonSes 2023-07-10 04:00:54
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KujahFoxfire said: »
Real question is:

Is taking a stage 4 -> 5 worth more than a second stage 4 + stage 3 (think shield)?

We dont know really.
Stage 4 has new thing. Double attack damage proc like relics (on first hit only it seems). Looks like 25-30% activation on Axe (not sure if 2h is different %). Stage 5 can have higher chance or triple damage proc, so it's impossible to say for sure.
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By SimonSes 2023-07-10 04:04:45
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Dodik said: »
Technically soloable. In about 5 years.

You can solo around 15k Galli, so 566 runs. Assuming you go every day and double with ruspix every 20days then around 1.5 year, not 5.
 
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KujahFoxfire said: »
SimonSes said: »
KujahFoxfire said: »
Real question is:

Is taking a stage 4 -> 5 worth more than a second stage 4 + stage 3 (think shield)?

We dont know really.
Stage 4 has new thing. Double attack damage proc like relics (on first hit only it seems). Looks like 25-30% activation on Axe (not sure if 2h is different %). Stage 5 can have higher chance or triple damage proc, so it's impossible to say for sure.

Source? Pics?

Source is Unagihito, Lancifer and Mischief. I was with them in Bibiki when they tested their Stage 4.

You can see double damage proc below.

 
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Asura.Sechs said: »
I really wonder what they were thinking with the *drite stones.
Why are they even there?
I mean...
Maybe for the upgrade process they'll eventually add for REMAs to catch up to Primes.
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By Dodik 2023-07-10 04:27:15
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SimonSes said: »
You can solo around 15k Galli, so 566 runs. Assuming you go every day and double with ruspix every 20days then around 1.5 year, not 5.

I hear you, but no one can do Sortie 7 times a week plus an extra every run 5 days for 1.5 years straight and not go absolutely frigging insane.

Prove me wrong.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2023-07-10 04:31:45
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Stage 5 is gonna have to do something extraordinary for me to wanna do that instead of getting 1 and a half more stage 4s.
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By SimonSes 2023-07-10 04:32:20
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Dodik said: »
SimonSes said: »
You can solo around 15k Galli, so 566 runs. Assuming you go every day and double with ruspix every 20days then around 1.5 year, not 5.

I hear you, but no one can do Sortie 7 times a week plus an extra every run 5 days for 1.5 years straight and not go absolutely frigging insane.

Prove me wrong.

Its extra run every 20days, assuming you do a run every 24hours.
doing it for 530 days straight might be a challenging task, but at the same time none is forcing you to solo, especially at that pace. Im simply saying what's possible without any assumptions of how someone will do it.
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