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Sortie Release - Info
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KujahFoxfire said: »
Some notes from two runs today:
A Obj:
We had a blu aoeing down acuex with some interesting results:
1 - malaise on
2 - malaise on
3/4/5/6/7/8 - no malaise
9 - malaise on (first obj)
10 - malaise on
11 - malaise on
12 - malaise on (2nd obj)
All nukes were 10-30k in varying amounts, seems only the ones with malaise on counted. Are we potentially all wrong and its debuff related?
TH:
Run 1 pulled 3 sapphires and 3 cases from 8 NMs - with TH
Run 2 pulled FIVE sapphires and 1 case from 7 NMs - with TH
A Obj:
We had a blu aoeing down acuex with some interesting results:
1 - malaise on
2 - malaise on
3/4/5/6/7/8 - no malaise
9 - malaise on (first obj)
10 - malaise on
11 - malaise on
12 - malaise on (2nd obj)
All nukes were 10-30k in varying amounts, seems only the ones with malaise on counted. Are we potentially all wrong and its debuff related?
TH:
Run 1 pulled 3 sapphires and 3 cases from 8 NMs - with TH
Run 2 pulled FIVE sapphires and 1 case from 7 NMs - with TH
Well, maybe next time someone just kills six without any debuffs at all, no trusts doing dia / paralyze / etc. Then do six with just dia on them.
I've done all objectives in A solo on BLM a few times. Casting Firaja/Firaga on the Acuex with manawall up - never once doing any debuff, engaged, or even had trusts out to begin with, and I've always gotten the objectives in two sets of pulls.
Firaja hits for 12~15k, Firaga hits for 10~12k on average.
Technically Firaja is a debuff, though, so... I dunno.
But I've also gotten the objective just spamming Fire 6 & 5, with no Firaja, so I highly doubt it's debuff-related.
Firaja hits for 12~15k, Firaga hits for 10~12k on average.
Technically Firaja is a debuff, though, so... I dunno.
But I've also gotten the objective just spamming Fire 6 & 5, with no Firaja, so I highly doubt it's debuff-related.
KujahFoxfire said: »
All nukes were 10-30k in varying amounts, seems only the ones with malaise on counted. Are we potentially all wrong and its debuff related?
Can someone try debuffing three and killing them with non magical damage? Could the (possible) debuffs from BLU AoE spells be what sometimes trigger the chests to pop, and sometimes not?
Maybe total number of spells cast or magic damage done? Likely has multiple ways to get them based on folks just killing with physical hits.
I honestly think we're all overthinking the A Shard/Metal objective.
Every objective in A is super simple. Open any door, just kill the obdella, cast a buff spell next to the device, kill 5 enemies.
The chances of the shard/metal being something so specific are low. The fact that multiple people are all claiming different methods work means that the actual proc is very lenient.
Every objective in A is super simple. Open any door, just kill the obdella, cast a buff spell next to the device, kill 5 enemies.
The chances of the shard/metal being something so specific are low. The fact that multiple people are all claiming different methods work means that the actual proc is very lenient.
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Asura.Sensarity said: »
I honestly think we're all overthinking the A Shard/Metal objective.
Every objective in A is super simple. Open any door, just kill the obdella, cast a buff spell next to the device, kill 5 enemies.
The chances of the shard/metal being something so specific are low. The fact that multiple people are all claiming different methods work means that the actual proc is very lenient.
Every objective in A is super simple. Open any door, just kill the obdella, cast a buff spell next to the device, kill 5 enemies.
The chances of the shard/metal being something so specific are low. The fact that multiple people are all claiming different methods work means that the actual proc is very lenient.
Well there were also folks who killed all the accuex's and didn't get either of the NM temp items. It's likely something super simple, which is where the "had debuff cast on it" came from. Many trusts will case Dia on a monster, and BLU's AoE nukes provide debuffs, RDM's with Ice or Shock spikes up would automatically apply debuffs, so lots of ways to get something simple applied without knowing it.
KujahFoxfire said: »
Magic damage dealt is likely to be largely the same as the mobs are all fixed in HP anyway. I do think we're perhaps overlooking something simpler. An easy test would be as you said, murder 2 with a debuff on and then 1 without, see what happens. It would be really easy for people soloing with trusts to overlook something like a dia or sylvie bubble being up.
I don't know if this was mentioned at all, but Gallimaufry will cap at 100,000 lol. Dont be afraid to spend it. :)
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I was curious and wanted to test if I could leave a character out of boss room by not porting up, to see if they would get muffins/items. primarily to have someone farming shards, metals, and nms while rest of group killed bosses. but sadly boss room is too far and no muffins were gained on boss death by person that did not port up.
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Sylph.Gobbo said: »
I don't know if this was mentioned at all, but Gallimaufry will cap at 100,000 lol. Dont be afraid to spend it. :)
cuddlyhamster said: »
I was curious and wanted to test if I could leave a character out of boss room by not porting up, to see if they would get muffins/items. primarily to have someone farming shards, metals, and nms while rest of group killed bosses. but sadly boss room is too far and no muffins were gained on boss death by person that did not port up.
Data on A3/4-
RDM doing all work, WHM just for buffs/heals.
All kills were with Dia3, Slow2, Para2
Sylvie, Cornelia, Star Sibyl and Moogle. Darksday. All acuex kills
First three kills - all melee with enfire, no chest. Enspells below 1.7k damage
Fourth kill - Spammed Blizzard2/3 for no more than 9k damage. Pop'd A3
Fifth kill - all melee with enblizzard, casket A1 (normal) (+1 case)
Sixth kill - all melee with enblizzard, no casket
Seventh kill - Spammed Blizzard2/3 for no more than 9k damage. Pop'd A4
Next time going to try quick WS kills for two, then nuke the third. If pop, repeat for A4. Doesn't make a lot of sense, but might save some time.
RDM doing all work, WHM just for buffs/heals.
All kills were with Dia3, Slow2, Para2
Sylvie, Cornelia, Star Sibyl and Moogle. Darksday. All acuex kills
First three kills - all melee with enfire, no chest. Enspells below 1.7k damage
Fourth kill - Spammed Blizzard2/3 for no more than 9k damage. Pop'd A3
Fifth kill - all melee with enblizzard, casket A1 (normal) (+1 case)
Sixth kill - all melee with enblizzard, no casket
Seventh kill - Spammed Blizzard2/3 for no more than 9k damage. Pop'd A4
Next time going to try quick WS kills for two, then nuke the third. If pop, repeat for A4. Doesn't make a lot of sense, but might save some time.
I got my A shard/metal my first run on BLU cycling Dream Flower, Entomb, Anvil Lightning, and Spectral Floe. COR alt giving me Wizard/Evoker rolls with Cornelia, Sylvie, Moogle, and Star Sibyl Trusts called. At most I had maybe 5 or 6 Acuex on me, and IIRC both chests came from separate pulls. Burst Affinity was burned off after the first Entomb, so killshots were nukes under 30k.
I can try this out in 2 days again and report back my findings, but that's all I did.
I can try this out in 2 days again and report back my findings, but that's all I did.
trading a sapphire without an item will result in losing the sapphire. now you know!
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Just a heads up, I found the Bhoot near the Fire elementals and wind/thunder pack. was in the empty space between them(Near B device)? idk why it wandered so far away from C area.
AegParm said: »
Data on A3/4-
RDM doing all work, WHM just for buffs/heals.
All kills were with Dia3, Slow2, Para2
Sylvie, Cornelia, Star Sibyl and Moogle. Darksday. All acuex kills
First three kills - all melee with enfire, no chest. Enspells below 1.7k damage
Fourth kill - Spammed Blizzard2/3 for no more than 9k damage. Pop'd A3
Fifth kill - all melee with enblizzard, casket A1 (normal) (+1 case)
Sixth kill - all melee with enblizzard, no casket
Seventh kill - Spammed Blizzard2/3 for no more than 9k damage. Pop'd A4
Next time going to try quick WS kills for two, then nuke the third. If pop, repeat for A4. Doesn't make a lot of sense, but might save some time.
RDM doing all work, WHM just for buffs/heals.
All kills were with Dia3, Slow2, Para2
Sylvie, Cornelia, Star Sibyl and Moogle. Darksday. All acuex kills
First three kills - all melee with enfire, no chest. Enspells below 1.7k damage
Fourth kill - Spammed Blizzard2/3 for no more than 9k damage. Pop'd A3
Fifth kill - all melee with enblizzard, casket A1 (normal) (+1 case)
Sixth kill - all melee with enblizzard, no casket
Seventh kill - Spammed Blizzard2/3 for no more than 9k damage. Pop'd A4
Next time going to try quick WS kills for two, then nuke the third. If pop, repeat for A4. Doesn't make a lot of sense, but might save some time.
why do ppl keep spaming the same crap over and over we all Know the stuff for A
Phoenix.Godofwars said: »
why do ppl keep spaming the same crap over and over we all Know the stuff for A
Because there's been multiple reports of obtaining the Acuex chests with no concise answer. Much like some of the other objectives tbh.
Because that's what the thread is for? Seems obvious.
Phoenix.Godofwars said: »
AegParm said: »
Data on A3/4-
RDM doing all work, WHM just for buffs/heals.
All kills were with Dia3, Slow2, Para2
Sylvie, Cornelia, Star Sibyl and Moogle. Darksday. All acuex kills
First three kills - all melee with enfire, no chest. Enspells below 1.7k damage
Fourth kill - Spammed Blizzard2/3 for no more than 9k damage. Pop'd A3
Fifth kill - all melee with enblizzard, casket A1 (normal) (+1 case)
Sixth kill - all melee with enblizzard, no casket
Seventh kill - Spammed Blizzard2/3 for no more than 9k damage. Pop'd A4
Next time going to try quick WS kills for two, then nuke the third. If pop, repeat for A4. Doesn't make a lot of sense, but might save some time.
RDM doing all work, WHM just for buffs/heals.
All kills were with Dia3, Slow2, Para2
Sylvie, Cornelia, Star Sibyl and Moogle. Darksday. All acuex kills
First three kills - all melee with enfire, no chest. Enspells below 1.7k damage
Fourth kill - Spammed Blizzard2/3 for no more than 9k damage. Pop'd A3
Fifth kill - all melee with enblizzard, casket A1 (normal) (+1 case)
Sixth kill - all melee with enblizzard, no casket
Seventh kill - Spammed Blizzard2/3 for no more than 9k damage. Pop'd A4
Next time going to try quick WS kills for two, then nuke the third. If pop, repeat for A4. Doesn't make a lot of sense, but might save some time.
why do ppl keep spaming the same crap over and over we all Know the stuff for A
Did you read any of this page, hell this thread at all?
AegParm said: »
Phoenix.Godofwars said: »
AegParm said: »
Data on A3/4-
RDM doing all work, WHM just for buffs/heals.
All kills were with Dia3, Slow2, Para2
Sylvie, Cornelia, Star Sibyl and Moogle. Darksday. All acuex kills
First three kills - all melee with enfire, no chest. Enspells below 1.7k damage
Fourth kill - Spammed Blizzard2/3 for no more than 9k damage. Pop'd A3
Fifth kill - all melee with enblizzard, casket A1 (normal) (+1 case)
Sixth kill - all melee with enblizzard, no casket
Seventh kill - Spammed Blizzard2/3 for no more than 9k damage. Pop'd A4
Next time going to try quick WS kills for two, then nuke the third. If pop, repeat for A4. Doesn't make a lot of sense, but might save some time.
RDM doing all work, WHM just for buffs/heals.
All kills were with Dia3, Slow2, Para2
Sylvie, Cornelia, Star Sibyl and Moogle. Darksday. All acuex kills
First three kills - all melee with enfire, no chest. Enspells below 1.7k damage
Fourth kill - Spammed Blizzard2/3 for no more than 9k damage. Pop'd A3
Fifth kill - all melee with enblizzard, casket A1 (normal) (+1 case)
Sixth kill - all melee with enblizzard, no casket
Seventh kill - Spammed Blizzard2/3 for no more than 9k damage. Pop'd A4
Next time going to try quick WS kills for two, then nuke the third. If pop, repeat for A4. Doesn't make a lot of sense, but might save some time.
why do ppl keep spaming the same crap over and over we all Know the stuff for A
Did you read any of this page, hell this thread at all?
yes i been keeping up with the tread have you? lol i done seen the same crap about the A chest over 40 or more times from page 1-36 lol follow the steps as they say and stop looking for a better way when did SE have gave you somthing easy never so just do your run and follow the steps and you will get all your coffer and at the end everyone happy oyraaaaaaaaaaaaa you see its that easy its best to go in with a party then just solo with trust
Chimerawizard said: »
cuddlyhamster said: »
I was curious and wanted to test if I could leave a character out of boss room by not porting up, to see if they would get muffins/items. primarily to have someone farming shards, metals, and nms while rest of group killed bosses. but sadly boss room is too far and no muffins were gained on boss death by person that did not port up.
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Phoenix.Godofwars said: »
kill with blu aoe and kill 5 and you get the chest whats so hard please lmk to do you need help how to pop A coffer i think its better for ppl to look for the blue chest in D and the boot red chest
You realize people come on different jobs, right?
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Phoenix.Godofwars said: »
yes i been keeping up with the tread have you? lol i done seen the same crap about the A chest over 40 or more times from page 1-36 lol follow the steps as they say and stop looking for a better way when did SE have gave you somthing easy never so just do your run and follow the steps and you will get all your coffer and at the end everyone happy oyraaaaaaaaaaaaa you see its that easy its best to go in with a party then just solo with trust
because the point of the thread is to completely understand the hidden objectives required to unlock the chests. just because one method happens to work, it doesn't change the objective of this thread.
and if enfeebling, or doing a minimum amount of damage, is all that's required, that opens up farming section A for those who don't have blu.
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