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I'm aware, but the SAM is outputting a lot of damage and often taking hate from the MNK from 100%>30% or so, so they can't stay out of range since they'll often be Aminon's target.

If you ok wiht it, could you please share a rough strategie for the other 8 bosses, like do you kite, just mnk x% of time, do cor geo rdm attack, specific ML/gear,etc?
Would realy be interested in attemping this starting wiht 6-8 bosses 1st

Open all bosses with Dia III/Light Shot. Chi Blast/Ageha on everything except Thunder Gartell. March/Madrigal/Minuet/Aria for your general songs. RDM should be MLv10+ for Curaga III access. MLv30+ for Auspice is optional but helpful. GEO Fury Frailty on everything except F boss.
E: All on it. Sulpor Valiance.
SAM Jinpu, MNK Tornado, COR Savage, BRD Ruthless or Savage, GEO Judgment or Black Halo.
F: Do after H so you have SV songs. Bolster Barrier, Frailty, Entrust Fury.
All on it. Gelus or Tellus Valiance depending on mode.
SAM Mumei, MNK Tornado, COR Savage, BRD Rudra or Savage, GEO Judgment or Black Halo.
G: All on it. Lux Valiance. Frazzle.
SAM Kagero or Koki, MNK Tornado, COR Savage, BRD Ruthless or Savage, GEO Judgment or Black Halo.
H: SAM and MNK on it only. SV March/Madrigal/Minuetx2/Aria. Do F after to get both in with SV songs.
SAM Mumei/Fudo, MNK Tornado/Raging.

Thank you very much, sorry again do you have mnk sets.
Any particular gear needed for other jobs and do you split for shards/ any specific metal needed.
Sorry to bombard you wiht questions

We don't bother splitting up for objectives. Mainly since I tri-box the SAM, BRD and COR and I don't have the ability to handle sending all my characters out to do different things simultaneously.
I don't really know if there's "particular gear" required that I can think of unless you count Godhands, S3+ Kusanagi, Idris, and S3+ Loughnashade which of course are all good to have.

Ageha shouldn't work on D/H unless it's in right mode afaik.

I didn't think it did, but I always threw it out anyway since I try to avoid pushing it below 90% before he does his opening TP move or else a fetter spawns immediately. Even if it lands I doubt it's necessary considering SV songs are up, but it gives me something to do even if it's meaningless, so eh.

Mnk is /run for element + valiance or does he need a specific rotation/try to keep hate ?

Everyone still /drk for 8 boss and do absorb tp or doesnt matter?

After getting 1.5 weeks of experience with Hard Mode Aminon with our MNK SAM setup, the main thing we learned is: if Penance is down, even a solo Ampulla MNK can risk over-TPing if you only have 3 absorbers. 4 absorbers is strongly recommended. Otherwise you'll just need your MNK to turn around for 2 seconds after each WS during windows where Penance is down. Honestly I still do this even with 4 absorbers just for safety's sake. When Penance is up, you're free to go as hard as you want.
Today was only our 3rd time beating it with our MNK SAM method and also our first Hard Mode 9 boss which included a 6:35 Aminon kill without a 5/6 Wild Card to reset MS/Yaeg and almost no damage from the BRD or COR (it's difficult for me to get damage in on them when I'm the MNK, but our usual MNK is sick so I've had to take up the MNK spot recently).

Just 5-manned a normal mode 9 boss with MNK BRD COR GEO RDM. Ampulla MNK puts in a lot of work now. There's a lot of room for improvement also since our GEO doesn't melee and only the MNK dealt any damage to Aminon this run when the BRD COR and GEO could easily throw out some WSs here and there. MNK Sortie is fun.

Great feedback, Sterk.


You can get like 5 minute uptime with 5/5 merits with RD/WC/RD though right? I'm sure if you timed it properly, MNK can go HAM for a straight 5 minutes? Probably still risky but very fun it appears

If you managed 5/6 on your sortie run without the SAM
Could try adding another COR might be able to keep Chi Blast up Full time with extra RD / WC

Have done the same with magic burst method
Lost the BLM a handful of times manage to still clear bosses with 5/6

Have swapped in a 3rd SCH or BRD for some runs it was fine

5/5 merit Penance is 1:40, so you actually get closer to 6.5 mins which is about how long our HM Aminons take, but I don't have a 100% reset rate on Chi Blast with RD. But yeah, if you get Chi Blast reset on both RDs, it's possible you'll never have to slow down.
I feel pretty comfortable to never turn when Penance is up. The only time we get a ~350ish absorb on Hard Mode with Penance up is if both the SAM and one of the BRD or COR WS at the same time. Most absorbs sit around the mid-to-high 200s.

Oh, and if anyone's curious, it took me about 7 minutes to solo Normal Aminon on Ampulla MNK. We've also done a HM Aminon + 7 boss run with the same 5-man setup and HM Aminon ended up taking about 10:30 for Ampulla MNK to solo.

Sounds like:

MNK/RUN COR/DRKx2, GEO/DRK, RDM/WHM, BRD/DRK

Would work great, double WC, Double Resets. Chaos,Sam,Tact,Misers.

Are you using Godhands?

Thank you for posting your strat and successes!

By chance do you have a 8 boss video using MNK

Yeah.
Not yet.

If you weren’t multiboxing, a RDM/DRK with a BRD/WHM or GEO/WHM seems like the better play. Having access to chainspell absorb TP for Aminon would be a huge boon. Not to mention it getting reset with WC.

I'm working on getting MNK ready for this
Going to try BRD/COR/COR/GEO/MNK/RDM

Except switch the BRD/WHM and RDM/DRK
COR/COR/GEO/RDM = /DRK

Chainspell > Adsorb-TP / Black Halo

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If MNK can solo it
Have just 1 of the COR as a second source of damage
Maybe both

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MNK > Chaos Roll / Samurai Roll / Tactician's Roll / Miser's Roll
COR > Chaos Roll / Tactician's Roll / Miser's Roll / Caster's Roll

1st COR > Samurai Roll / Chaos Roll
2nd COR > Tactician's Roll / Miser's Roll

1st COR > Switch To Caster's Roll / Absorb-TP

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The BRD and RDM could also buff the COR separately
Honor March / Victory March / Archer's Prelude / Hunter's Prelude
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You already cap attack in 9 boss with SV songs Minuets/HM and Bolster Frailty Fury. Pretty sure Chaos Roll and Shell Crusher (may not land unless in correct mode anyways) are unnecessary, unless Bolster bubbles drop, in which case a Chaos might be enough to cap. Monk's Roll is also kind of redundant and unnecessary unless it's for a mage strat IMO. Most DD jobs can toggle an easy 40-50 Subtle Blow WS set or get the other 10from Auspice, just by sacrificing waist, rings, and ear slots or neck (Bathy). Tacticians/Misers still seems better

What are weaponskills broken down for AECG vs BF and D/H? Are BRD/COR/RDM doing savage blade, GEO Black Halo?

Monk deserves it's time to shine, even if it is 1000g/swing.

Pretty sure Sterk has been doing MNK Aminon since before Ampulla was out. It's the same strategy you always use monk for, nothing has changed besides you are stronger with the ammo, the strategy is exactly the same for all bosses. The spotlight hasn't shifted to Monk because of Hoxnr because it was always the best job for the TP mitigation feed strategy, just people don't like to use Monk in groups. It's got sure way easier to MULTIBOX MNK vs DNC

People don’t do the MNK strat because it’s less engaging than the meta DNC strat with only MNK doing all the work on Aminon.

Well they do the most work, but I wouldn't say it's the only one doing work. Our Aminon parses if it's just the MNK SAM on it is typically about MNK 65-70%, SAM 30-35%. Our BRD/COR/GEO don't DD not because they're not allowed to, but because our GEO just doesn't want to and it's too much work for me to add efficient BRD/COR WSs in my triboxing on the fight. Of course, one of their rolls being used on Caster's limits how often they're able to shoot out WSs, but they're free to contribute whatever damage they can so long as Penance is up, which is most-to-all of the fight.

Are you sure we are capped? Our RDM hits the occasional 99,999 on basement bosses but never on Aminon. (NQ) I know its close but MNK could stack some serious PDL now with Aria and have some gains during TP phase. With MNKs TP/WS split it should add up.

I can't see how you aren't attack capped with Dia 3* -23% def, Bolster Fury +120% attack/Frailty -42% def , like +900 attack from songs, and another -23% defense from Box Step, and Last resort. If you're not attack capped, then Aria is doing nothing for 9-boss groups, which I'm almost positive almost all groups are using.

Not hitting 99k is not a visible representation of attack cap being met on the RDM though. I'd have to check my logs to see if our RDM ever hit 99k. He is ML50, but I'm not sure if he had absorb-str/mnd on and entrust str/mnd on. Maybe with a Souleater+Consume Mana and high MP you could hit 99k, but that still has nothing to do with whether or not you're attack capped.

DNC does most of the heavy lifting in current strat on Aminon anyways, with COR+RDM providing a good 800k-1m each. I've been in Aminon groups where the COR or RDM didn't really add much and we still were fine, just a little slower. My measly 500k-600k on GEO is appreciated but completely unnecessary, we would win without it. So if what we are talking about is "this setup and strat is more fun because everyone is involved", I agree with you. If what you're looking for is success rate and the safest strategy (aka higher chance of winning, because DD can go overboard and Aminon gets a move off), then MNK is always preferred. But those are two different things.

Not challenging you, just truly curious. DNCs being able to average 99k really throws off perspective. The reason I brought up RDM is because they do hit cap enough to notice on basement bosses but never on Aminon.

Can you post a screenshot of RDM hitting 99,999 on basement boss? or close to 99,999, I am curious on how that is achieved.

I've definitely hit 99,999 on RDM on basement bosses, as have other friends in my group, at least 3 or 4 of us. It's not very common, in my experience, but it does happen.

Most likely candidate would be G boss, my damage seems the best on him, but also possibly E... don't believe I've ever seen it on Aminon.

I agree with the other points though, hitting 99,999 is not the same as being attack capped. There's some overlap, of course, but they're not the same condition

It's "easily" achieved if you do 1 of 2 things: 1. Consume Mana and 2. Hold TP to effectively WS at 2.5k to 3k TP. More often than not you do not want to hit 99999 on RDM because you often lose WS frequency.
The only time I would hit capped damage on RDM on Aminon is if was about to WS around 1750-2k TP and I noticed an influx of actions at once and I needed to hold off and do an extra drain to ensure no wipe and I end up firing a WS from 2.5k+ It's not a good thing to do in all practicality purposes.

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