Fixing The MW 3-8 Cashgrab

Thorny does what Squeenix don't

There's no reason these can't be cached after initial login and then any time you try to manipulate an item the server doesn't see as being there, it logs it and you get immediately disconnected. Or jailed. Or banned outright. Who cares.

I'm amazed at how many white knights have shown up to attack me and call me entitled. I never claimed that this should be free, I never said that they shouldn't make money off of it.

What I said was, the cost should be reduced, because paying an additional $12 a month for storage does not seem like it's worth it. If they were to reduce each wardrobe cost to $1 each, or sell all 6 in a $5 bundle (as an example), I think it would be a better idea.

The purpose of this thread was to offer a different perspective, rather than demanding what everyone is assuming (that this should be free). SE is a company and they are supposed to make a profit. I never denied that fact. I simply stated that the cost for this new feature is not worth it to me and as a result, I am canceling my subscription. I never said that anyone else should join me, I never tried to "rally the troops" against SE.

I have played FFXI for years, on and off, and I've loved playing this game. But the inventory issue has been pressing for me and I've found myself still running out. But rather than paying more money to keep playing the game, I elected to cancel and save my money instead. There are plenty of other games out there for me to play and maybe one day I'll come back to this game again.

I'm not boycotting SE or FFXI, I just wanted to post a suggestion that I had, to see if others felt like it was a good idea. If you are okay with spending an extra $12 a month to buy all the MW storage, good on you. You do just that. I'm not okay paying that much, and that's it.

You do you and have fun, but please don't make assumptions about me when all I wanted was to see how others felt about what I thought was a good idea, and call me entitled for suggesting that they could have made the MW cheaper, which I guarantee no one here would object to, if they reduced the cost.

All the arguing aside, I'm sort of wondering why they added 4 new wardrobes instead of just adding 1 or 2. Most people won't need 6 additional paid wardrobes. Maybe another 2, bringing the total to 4, would have made more sense.

Or maybe they're expecting a rather large number of new equipment to be added in the near future. We do have empy +3 content coming, and then there's the rumor that Chemist will be added as a new job.

And since I know some people will say it's just to make them more money, I still say most people won't need and won't buy all 4 of the new wardrobes. I would assume most people would pick up 1 or 2 additional wardrobes.

Thanks Thorny for the info on findall, and also all the work you do for Ashita, I appreciate it! =D I'll definitely download that addon, it sounds pretty awesome if the load times become near instant. Now far as the issue I was having earlier, I did some testing with XI and weirdly enough I found out the problem wasn't anything related to what I had thought.

It was Ashita's version of the Equipviewer addon, it must of got borked from the Feb update. I ran XI both vanilla and with Windower and neither had the zoning lag spikes. I did some quick editing of my default.txt script file for Ashita, and narrowed the problem down to Equipviewer. I'm wondering why the Windower version of that addon isn't causing the same problem though? Unless maybe it was updated before I checked XI on Windower.

I'm going to go back on the GitHub page for Ashita's Equipviewer and see if there was a new update or something hopefully to fix the issue, cause that addon is one of the most useful of them. But also really glad it didn't have anything to do with SE changing the inventory loading. That would of sucked really bad if it did cause those lag spikes.

(Btw sorry I know this isn't a addon/plugin thread, but was just responding in here since Thorny mentioned the plugin/loading issue in this thread.)

You are using takos garbage equipviewer that loads from hard drive constantly. That is not in any way ashita's. The official addons should not do that.

Oh okay, I didn't know there was another version of it aside from the Windower one. But yeah that definitely explains the lag with the constant drive loading. It's just weird that it didn't have the lag issue till after the Feb update. Maybe that was a side effect from SE changing the inventory loading.

Is there an official Ashita Equipviewer like on the Discord channels? Cause I've never seen another version when I searched online, and it's not listed in the addon downloads section on the Ashita launcher.

Since you mentioned launcher, I assume you're using Ashita v3?

Yep I'm still on Ashita v3. After Thorny mentioned v4 earlier I went and downloaded the Beta for v4 but it's not working for some really strange reason. Like I unzipped it and everything but when I ran the .exe file, it just has a command prompt window show up for a split second then vanishes and nothing else happens.

So idk if I can really use v4 until the full release, unless there is some type of fix for that. I even tried like older Windows compatibility settings and set to run as admin and that didn't do anything (I'm on Win 10).

Last I checked in with v4, it was still lacking a proper launcher and you had to launch it via command line, targeting a boot profile. Most people would probably want to use .bat files to do so and make shortcuts.

The instructions should be in the v4 beta channels.

Oh okay, thanks for that info. Yeah I had never seen anything about v4 till today aside from a few times it was mentioned online that the beta was being worked on.

I was assuming it worked similar to how v3 did, but I'll definitely check back on their discord and read about how to set that up. I'm just glad that's all the issue was and not like something wrong with my Windows registry or whatever else lol.

I'm guessing most of the addons from v3 don't work with v4? Or hopefully they ported at least the more useful ones over.

v3 addons won't work. v4 has everything I can think of. which link did you use? should already have most in your addons folder

Almost all of the major extensions should be ported by now. You'll only be able to use v4 addons.

Some brand new extensions have been introduced with v4. One of the biggest ones most players would be interested in is a Lua version of Ashitacast named LuAshitacast.

Oh okay, yeah I had a feeling the v3 wouldn't work with v4. I downloaded the v4 Beta from the GitHub link that I found searching online. I didn't see the download for it on their discord so I just grabbed it from Git instead. Yeah was just now looking over the addons in the v4 folder and it does have a lot. Although a couple of them that are pretty important I don't see there.

The Equipviewer especially isn't there, and also that "***" addon Chiaia made and At0mos ported to Ashita to block the stupid RMT spam. I have that one for both Windower and v3 Ashita, but idk if they made one for v4. Oh also mountmuzzle don't see that, cause that mount song is SO awful lol. Although I usually have the game audio muted, but not always.

Thorny said the Tako equipviewer isn't part of Ashita so I'm wondering where the official one would be, in the discord I'm guessing? Also curious does the Windower Shim compatbility thing work with Ashita v4? Cause I use a few Windower addons like XIVbar and Debuffed to see mob's enfeebs on screen.

This isn't really the place for this discussion, you've eaten up a whole page on it already. If you want to ask these questions, why not ask them in the discord.. that you're apparently already in?

Equipmon is Atom0s' version of equipviewer, though.

Just a small post to thank Thorny for all the things he did for me and for the community through the years.

I don't use Ashita but thanks regardless man, thanks a lot.

I do remember what we got back then, and updates were so infrequent the server barely ever went down at all.

Also every update we got was content from the bare bones expansion with nothing but zones in it, drip fed to us over the following 3-4 years.

We get more for the sub today than we ever have in the history of the game, and pay 1/2 for it than we used to in real terms.

Rhapsodies was "fee content" (as well as omen, reisenjima, ambuscade etc), as is VR and everything that has been added since rhaps. Everything before that came from expansion sales.

Rise of the Zilart 2003
100+ zones
Chains of Promathia 2004
40+ zones
Treasures of Aht Urhgan 2006
30+ zones, 3 new jobs
Wings of the Goddess 2007
20+ zones, 2 new jobs
Seekers of Adoulin 2013
20+ zones, 2 new jobs
Rhapsodies of Vana'diel 2015
1 zone

not gonna break it down to you further but there were thousands of new NPCs, thousands of new quest lines, tons of activities to do. your post doesn't even hold up in terms of when new expansions were launched not to mention random content between. you're a disingenuous liar of a poster from a sock account. i'm not sure why you're allowed to spread your propaganda everywhere

"In fashioning myself I fashion man."

"I got called out and now its time for me to retreat from the thread like normal"

you just straight up post *** that is easily refutable. i still have no idea why no one calls you out

Nothing sadder than a sock account on a nearly 20 yo game forum.

agreed.

radial, why don't you go ahead and register your ffxi account to your ffxiah account buddy?

I don't have a problem with people using socks as such, but all you're doing is sperging. It's childish.

Am I missing something here?

What does having your ffxi account linked to ffxiah have anything to do with anything related to this topic?

You guys are likely in your 30s, grow up. Holy ***

From my experience, some people expect you to so they know who you are, so they can harass you further if you disagree with them.

Anecdote: Years ago, there was some random dude talking to me in a very shitty way in-game. Never seen this guy before, no idea who he was. Turned out, he was the character of some guy I disagreed with on a FFXI forum.

There are several who just can't let stuff go. We could disagree in 1 thread but completely agree in another. Just because you disagree on 1 topic doesn't mean either one is a bad person. This concept is extremely difficult for some people to understand.

Yeah. You and I completely disagree on the mog wardrobes, and I never opened your profile on here to check if you have your ffxi character linked to ffxiah for some arbitrary reason. That's crazy childish.

These are likely grown men doing this ***, on a 20 year old game forum. Sad.

While making socks to agree with or upvote yourself is pretty toxic, I'd still say most sock arguments still boil down to strawman. Either the person is saying something credible/interesting/accurate/w.e or they aren't. It doesn't really matter who they are, and moderation is basically nonexistant so the idea of ban evasion hardly comes into play either.

Grown *** adults being petulant children is exactly the reason not to link anything to anything.

you said nothing to refute my claims. you said expansions were 3-4 years between and we got nothing other than drip content during those times.

that is easily refutable and clearly false. you hide behind the fact that "you're a sock"(while you yourself by definition are a sock) when in reality i'm not, i was called a sock on my other ffxiah profile as well(one i haven't posted on in 6+ months) and those are the two i've had over the last 20 years.

talking about what's childish as you shamelessly shill SE and spread propaganda.

FFXI is great, i love FFXI. but claiming we are getting more content in the last decade than we did in the first decade of the game is a *** lie and you should be shamed for trying to claim as much

I guess the problem can be, if you're very opinionated and/or aren't very tactful in your posts it can lead to people you disagree with hating you or thinking you hate them or something.

So I can see why some would do it but a lot of the socks that get made are made purely to stir sh*t.