|
Fixing the MW 3-8 Cashgrab
By GetHelpNerd 2022-02-24 11:10:27
136 are displeased, 90 have no opinion (therefore they are not pleased but maybe don't need storage) 28 are quitting, 170 are pleased.
so let's break this down for you..
136+28+90 = 254 people that are not using this "solution"
as opposed to 170 that are. either way even if you only count the 136 + 28 it's as close to 50/50 within a margin of error as you're going to get, definitely not just a vocal minority.
i can understand why you don't care either way though if that's your main account, people barely clearing ambu each month likely aren't the target of new wardrobes
By Bosworth 2022-02-24 11:12:40
By GetHelpNerd 2022-02-24 11:17:26
literally posted you a poll.. with lots of peoples votes.. from the official reddit of this game.. looking at a sample size is the exact opposite of confirmation bias
were you posting that to yourself?
i legit hate how casual players return to the game for 2-3 months and think their opinion is the end all be all
Bahamut.Radda
Serveur: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 138
By Bahamut.Radda 2022-02-24 11:19:58
136 are displeased, 90 have no opinion (therefore they are not pleased but maybe don't need storage) 28 are quitting, 170 are pleased.
so let's break this down for you..
136+28+90 = 254 people that are not using this "solution"
as opposed to 170 that are. either way even if you only count the 136 + 28 it's as close to 50/50 within a margin of error as you're going to get, definitely not just a vocal minority.
i can understand why you don't care either way though if that's your main account, people barely clearing ambu each month likely aren't the target of new wardrobes
No opinion means... no opinion. That doesn't mean displeased. Nor does it mean that they aren't using it. It simply means they have no opinion on it. When they raise the cost of my newspaper subscription, I still get the paper, but I have no opinion on the increase.
lmfao
Say more dumb things. Go on then.. make me laugh more.
By GetHelpNerd 2022-02-24 11:20:59
136 are displeased, 90 have no opinion (therefore they are not pleased but maybe don't need storage) 28 are quitting, 170 are pleased.
so let's break this down for you..
136+28+90 = 254 people that are not using this "solution"
as opposed to 170 that are. either way even if you only count the 136 + 28 it's as close to 50/50 within a margin of error as you're going to get, definitely not just a vocal minority.
i can understand why you don't care either way though if that's your main account, people barely clearing ambu each month likely aren't the target of new wardrobes
No opinion means... no opinion. That doesn't mean displeased.
lmfao
Say more dumb things. Go on then.. make me laugh more.
i said as much in my post, you are clearly a moron
[+]
Bahamut.Radda
Serveur: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 138
By Bahamut.Radda 2022-02-24 11:22:17
136 are displeased, 90 have no opinion (therefore they are not pleased but maybe don't need storage) 28 are quitting, 170 are pleased.
so let's break this down for you..
136+28+90 = 254 people that are not using this "solution"
as opposed to 170 that are. either way even if you only count the 136 + 28 it's as close to 50/50 within a margin of error as you're going to get, definitely not just a vocal minority.
i can understand why you don't care either way though if that's your main account, people barely clearing ambu each month likely aren't the target of new wardrobes
No opinion means... no opinion. That doesn't mean displeased.
lmfao
Say more dumb things. Go on then.. make me laugh more.
i said as much in my post, you are clearly a moron
No, you didn't. You included the "no opinions" with the displeased.
lol
Bahamut.Radda
Serveur: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 138
By Bahamut.Radda 2022-02-24 11:22:55
Oooooh I see.
You backpeddaled from "displeased" to "not using".
lololololol No wonder you're on a sock.
By Bosworth 2022-02-24 11:23:29
You incorrectly interpreted results to support your own position.
Objectively, this is what the results say:
170 people are happy and fine with this as the solution.
136 people wished for another solution, and won't pay for more wardrobes.
28 people are quitting over paid wardrobes.
90 people don't care. These are not displeased people, they have no opinion.
170 are happy with it
136 + 28 = 164 people are not happy about it.
90 people are neutral.
170 > 164.
For people who actually care, ~51% approve, ~49% disapprove.
This looks good to me, and supports my own position. For those who want them, they're happy. There's lots of people who won't pay for them, like me. This is what I've said should be done all along.
By the way, I voted for option 2.
[+]
By Mattelot 2022-02-24 11:25:47
here is the poll from reddit, feel free to make whatever excuses you'd like regarding the sample size and userbase of reddit but i believe it accurately represents the population based on the # of votes.
At the same time, I believe the results. However, I wish it had not come from Reddit. The number of manipulated polls I see there is staggering.
you'll want to create a few sock accounts to vote
I'm sure some here were already on their way to do that before they even got to this part of your post.
Also, why are you trying to justify yourself to sock puppets? Let them humiliate themselves. They do a good enough job of it alone.
By GetHelpNerd 2022-02-24 11:27:16
Oooooh I see.
You backpeddaled from "displeased" to "not using".
lololololol No wonder you're on a sock.
you literally quoted my post, even if i edited it the original version would show in your quote. how on earth did i "backpedal"?
if the poll was framed as "will you buy wardrobes?" you'd be at 254 to 170. you cannot discount the people who have no opinion, even if you do, my point was that the fact that you're saying its a "vocal minority" is an outright lie. it is as close to half as it is going to get.
sorry buddy
Fenrir.Ramzus
Serveur: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1387
By Fenrir.Ramzus 2022-02-24 11:29:29
Bahamut.Radda
Serveur: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 138
By Bahamut.Radda 2022-02-24 11:29:58
here is the poll from reddit, feel free to make whatever excuses you'd like regarding the sample size and userbase of reddit but i believe it accurately represents the population based on the # of votes.
At the same time, I believe the results. However, I wish it had not come from Reddit. The number of manipulated polls I see there is staggering.
you'll want to create a few sock accounts to vote
I'm sure some here were already on their way to do that before they even got to this part of your post.
Also, why are you trying to justify yourself to sock puppets? Let them humiliate themselves. They do a good enough job of it alone.
The poll closed 6 days ago, dumdum.
Also, you're championing a sock account.
Bahamut.Radda
Serveur: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 138
By Bahamut.Radda 2022-02-24 11:31:25
Oooooh I see.
You backpeddaled from "displeased" to "not using".
lololololol No wonder you're on a sock.
you literally quoted my post, even if i edited it the original version would show in your quote. how on earth did i "backpedal"?
if the poll was framed as "will you buy wardrobes?" you'd be at 254 to 170. you cannot discount the people who have no opinion, even if you do, my point was that the fact that you're saying its a "vocal minority" is an outright lie. it is as close to half as it is going to get.
sorry buddy
Because first your metric was "Displeased" then you changed your word to "not using" when you wanted to add the 90 votes of no opinion to the "displeased" totals.
what a fking clown.
By Bosworth 2022-02-24 11:32:29
Fellas, about half approve, half don't.
Can we just leave it at that
[+]
By GetHelpNerd 2022-02-24 11:33:18
here is the poll from reddit, feel free to make whatever excuses you'd like regarding the sample size and userbase of reddit but i believe it accurately represents the population based on the # of votes.
At the same time, I believe the results. However, I wish it had not come from Reddit. The number of manipulated polls I see there is staggering.
you'll want to create a few sock accounts to vote
I'm sure some here were already on their way to do that before they even got to this part of your post.
Also, why are you trying to justify yourself to sock puppets? Let them humiliate themselves. They do a good enough job of it alone.
The poll closed 6 days ago, dumdum.
Also, you're championing a sock account.
dude, you might as well be a sock account
Fellas, about half approve, half don't.
Can we just leave it at that absolutely, it was radial/radda/insepctor saying it was a vocal minority that don't like wardrobes, no one else was
[+]
Bahamut.Radda
Serveur: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 138
By Bahamut.Radda 2022-02-24 11:33:20
Fellas, about half approve, half don't.
Can we just leave it at that
I'm fine with leaving it at that. Others want to continue to moan about it. Which is also fine with me.
Serveur: Leviathan
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3753
By Leviathan.Celebrindal 2022-02-24 11:33:38
[+]
Bahamut.Radda
Serveur: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 138
By Bahamut.Radda 2022-02-24 11:33:50
here is the poll from reddit, feel free to make whatever excuses you'd like regarding the sample size and userbase of reddit but i believe it accurately represents the population based on the # of votes.
At the same time, I believe the results. However, I wish it had not come from Reddit. The number of manipulated polls I see there is staggering.
you'll want to create a few sock accounts to vote
I'm sure some here were already on their way to do that before they even got to this part of your post.
Also, why are you trying to justify yourself to sock puppets? Let them humiliate themselves. They do a good enough job of it alone.
The poll closed 6 days ago, dumdum.
Also, you're championing a sock account.
dude, you might as well be a sock account
As opposed to you, who actually IS on a sock account.
Bahamut.Radda
Serveur: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 138
By Bahamut.Radda 2022-02-24 11:34:32
Leviathan.Celebrindal said: »
Entitlement is why.
[+]
By GetHelpNerd 2022-02-24 11:37:14
here is the poll from reddit, feel free to make whatever excuses you'd like regarding the sample size and userbase of reddit but i believe it accurately represents the population based on the # of votes.
At the same time, I believe the results. However, I wish it had not come from Reddit. The number of manipulated polls I see there is staggering.
you'll want to create a few sock accounts to vote
I'm sure some here were already on their way to do that before they even got to this part of your post.
Also, why are you trying to justify yourself to sock puppets? Let them humiliate themselves. They do a good enough job of it alone.
The poll closed 6 days ago, dumdum.
Also, you're championing a sock account.
dude, you might as well be a sock account
As opposed to you, who actually IS on a sock account.
i have alts that i've tossed away gear you are wearing that have better gear than you, i can register one to my ffxiah if that would make you feel better. that would still make me 1 step up from radial
this whole sock argument is very pathetic
By Mattelot 2022-02-24 11:39:16
this whole sock argument is very pathetic
It's so awkward watching a sock puppet call someone else a sock puppet but all it is... is the lowest of the lowest grade trolling. I mean, it's not even funny. Don't take the bait.
[+]
Bahamut.Radda
Serveur: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 138
By Bahamut.Radda 2022-02-24 11:45:48
this whole sock argument is very pathetic
It's so awkward watching a sock puppet call someone else a sock puppet but all it is... is the lowest of the lowest grade trolling. I mean, it's not even funny. Don't take the bait.
I agree. GHN calling others socks is hilariously inept.
Bahamut.Radda
Serveur: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 138
By Bahamut.Radda 2022-02-24 11:48:20
here is the poll from reddit, feel free to make whatever excuses you'd like regarding the sample size and userbase of reddit but i believe it accurately represents the population based on the # of votes.
At the same time, I believe the results. However, I wish it had not come from Reddit. The number of manipulated polls I see there is staggering.
you'll want to create a few sock accounts to vote
I'm sure some here were already on their way to do that before they even got to this part of your post.
Also, why are you trying to justify yourself to sock puppets? Let them humiliate themselves. They do a good enough job of it alone.
The poll closed 6 days ago, dumdum.
Also, you're championing a sock account.
dude, you might as well be a sock account
As opposed to you, who actually IS on a sock account.
i have alts that i've tossed away gear you are wearing that have better gear than you, i can register one to my ffxiah if that would make you feel better. that would still make me 1 step up from radial
this whole sock argument is very pathetic
Oh... I see.
So do I. lol YOu can make waht ever claims you want, you can ignore the fact that the GW character sheets haven't worked properly in ages... if it helps soothe your backpeddaling ego.
lol imagine posting from a sock account, and using "MY GEER IZ BETTUR DEN URZ" and expecting anyone to take you seriously.
Do carry on.
Bahamut.Radda
Serveur: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 138
By Bahamut.Radda 2022-02-24 11:49:28
You know that you've lost an argument when you try to gear-shame someone. Doubly so when you do so from a sock account.
By GetHelpNerd 2022-02-24 12:37:35
You know that you've lost an argument when you try to gear-shame someone. Doubly so when you do so from a sock account.
completely ignoring that the reason i drew this comparison is because we are discussing storage containers that hold gear.
By Mattelot 2022-02-24 13:03:15
completely ignoring that the reason i drew this comparison is because we are discussing storage containers that hold gear.
Don't feed the sock trolls. We already had the last thread deleted because feeding them made it go on for several pages of abysmal garbage quality troll replies. This is why we can't have nice things.
By Bongarippa 2022-02-24 13:09:19
[+]
Bahamut.Radda
Serveur: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 138
By Bahamut.Radda 2022-02-24 14:30:35
You know that you've lost an argument when you try to gear-shame someone. Doubly so when you do so from a sock account.
completely ignoring that the reason i drew this comparison is because we are discussing storage containers that hold gear.
I'm well aware of what we are discussing. You drew no comparison. lol you tried to gear-shame me based off a broken GW character info system, and you did so from a sock account because you're too cowardly to use your main.
Well done, sir. You nearly hurt my feelings there.
Like I said, when you resort to gear-shaming, all you've really done is admit you lost.... while making a fool out of yourself in the process.
Bahamut.Radda
Serveur: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 138
By Bahamut.Radda 2022-02-24 14:31:03
completely ignoring that the reason i drew this comparison is because we are discussing storage containers that hold gear.
Don't feed the sock trolls. We already had the last thread deleted because feeding them made it go on for several pages of abysmal garbage quality troll replies. This is why we can't have nice things.
You do realize you're talking to a sock troll there, right?
By IGDC 2022-02-24 14:39:39
Holy ***, 15 pages and people are still responding to this ***? Impressive! Last cry fest was 18 pages, you can do it!
[+]
I think there's a very simple solution to the latest cashgrab that SE has made, and it would not only encourage more people to sign up for it, but might bring people back too.
Make each additional MW $1, and offer a bundle to get all 6 for $5.
People love to save money, and if it's a "deal" they will pay for it even if they don't need it.
Charging $2 for each one is just plain stupid. Yeah, there might be some people willing to pay for it, but I'll bet there are even more out there that won't. I sure don't want to pay double my sub fee, just for more space.
Personally, as much as I hate to do it, I'm canceling my sub, not directly because of this, but it did make the decision a lot easier. I hope that if SE can see how poor of an idea this was, they will change the price.
|
|