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Gethelpnerd a whiny *** who throws temper tantrums: true since his account creation 12 days ago

You haven't proven anything aside from a giant failure on the part of whatever school tried to educate you.

You're invested in something you do literally nothing but cry and complain about, yet continue to give money for. Tell me again how you're not a loser.

i posted sources for all of it, multiple things i posted several times. the majority of them were from SE themselves. you and the people saying what you are have not provided a single source, a single anything.

take a look onlookers of ffxiah, this is what it looks like when a kid has been utterly and completely decimated and refuses to engage in anything meaningful. he resorts to insults and ignoring all content of posts. go back and read his last couple, its truly sad.

also, you could at least prove me wrong that you've played more than 9 months in the last 10 years, that one is within your power. you won't though, because you likely haven't. the rest is straight up fact from SEs mouth or just generally how inflation works around technology

Most the ***you think you proved weren't even my points.

My point is and always has been:
1. SE is a business, not your friend.
2. Optional wardrobes to bring in more money lessens the chance of the game being dropped altogether, or getting less updates. This is how business works.
3. If you don't like the wardrobes, DONT BUY THEM. THEYRE OPITIONAL.
4. If you don't like the updates FFXI gets, unsub. It's that simple.

Some additional points:
5. Being a giant man baby because you aren't getting your way is *** childish and embarrassing. Seriously, how do you not look back on your post history and not cringe? Grow the *** up.
6. You throw money at SE to play FFXI, a game you do literally nothing but cry and complain about. We're not talking just constructive criticism here because that isn't what you're doing. You're legit throwing a temper tantrum like 5 year old because you think you're entitled to ***that you're not. It's embarrassing.


How the *** are you going to say I'm not engaging in anything meaningful, and then pull random numbers out of your *** and apply them to my playtime?

You're a joke.

Shrink away.

GetHelpNerd:

You actually did not quote a post in your bowling analogy. It was directly under a post by Bosworth which states in part: "With FFXI, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BUY THE WARDROBES YOU DENSE, WHINY LITTLE CHILD."

Your immediate response was the bowling analogy. And it's a bad one. This nonsense that you weren't talking about wardrobes is ridiculous. Granted, you've done a lot of whining in this thread, the only whining about a price increase is wardrobes and the previous comment in your conversation that you responded to, in all caps, focuses on wardrobes. . .

I know you think you're smarter than everybody but your analogy does not work and your attempted defense of it is worse.

I've been feeling the same way lately, its really sad. They could have two successful games with happy playerbases. I don't think it would take that much effort for them to focus some on XI and not that many resources certainly. It's def made me feel jaded for a while, especially seeing how much love and care they put into XIV. It's not even funny the difference between the two services.

Well, your analogy does not establish that a person who consumes more of a product is more entitled to complain. Given that it's optional, I would argue you have no grounds to complain at all. Your analogy actually fails even harder now.

I got utterly destroyed how? All you've done is pull numbers out of your *** and make yourself look like a child throwing a temper tantrum when you don't get things you think you're entitled to.

For your reference, since it's so important to you for some reason, my main account has 446 days of playtime. This is over 10,000 hours. This doesn't account for my alts and previous accounts. To borrow your phrasing, yes, I'm an expert. Now, sit your *** down boy.

https://gyazo.com/f749fec541f69c1ae0389d0b648fb568



And there you have it guys, evidence that this moron has lost his grip on reality and shouldn't be taken seriously. A moron, through and through.

To borrow another one of your favorites, Mr. butthurt whiny child got utterly destroyed and decimated so hard that he's literally losing his mind

absolutely no frame of reference for the last 10 years, you know that though. you aren't worth the time, something i'm sure you're used to hearing.


i'm not sure how you could feel that way and still be happy about wardrobes, but whatever.

anyone that has stuck with this game through and through, heard from SE they were "working on inventory solutions" 2 years ago into them talking about it last year and this year and then seeing this as the solution should be so sad. longer load times than before and a paid for solution that we essentially already had.. yikes.

the people really harming FFXI, like truly harming it, are the people like bosworth, radda, radial, inspectorgadget who expect NOTHING of SE and want NOTHING from SE. none of us have a voice for SE, complaining on ffxiah isn't going to change anything, wanting nothing from a game you love though is absolutely nuts. most dysfunctional relationship with anything i've ever heard of

legit reminds me of those my 600lb life shows where the husband/wife just say "but i love them how they are" as their 600lb significant other wittles away eating more and more until they die.

you should want good things for people you love, you should EXPECT good things for people you love.

obviously this is not 1 to 1 because you're not a customer of your significant others, it's a partnership, but when you're paying for a game that you love you should be able to hold the company accountable for bad decisions. the white knighting of SE's horrible decisions, a company who has CONSISTENTLY *** ffxi players in the *** over and over should be a behavior that is absolutely abhorrent and called out immediately.

They did say they were implementing a paid inventory option, that was ages ago. So it didn't surprise me and I didn't mind the cost as I offset them elsewhere. Not happy that is the only inv adjustment they did, but it was expected a while ago.

I have more inventory than ever before and I can speak in Linkshell within two seconds of zoning. I am happy.

addons have been out to do this for going on 10 years now, it's another poor design choice SE made to send the packets at terrible times

https://docs.windower.net/addons/instals/

ashita equivalent i'm not familiar with but i know it exists. you don't play vanilla judging from your other posts but if that's all it takes to make you happy i'm sorry that you suffered for the last decade not knowing this existed

The thing I hate is that people who don't really care about the subject of the fan forum can often trigger fans into anger very easily, since they are passionate about the subject matter.

They also want to turn normal conversations about a subject into flaming and heat both sides up against each other, they then fart away never to be seen again (on that account). Uncaring if they get banned or not cause it's a burner account and they will just make a new for next time.

I would bet people have been topic banned already, when the person instigating these reactions gets away with it and carries on flaming people.

the thread is optional, don't read it

You were implying I don't play enough to be invested. 10,700 hours of play time proves you wrong. You lost.



This is misleading, and for the 100th time, you're missing the point. Nobody here expects nothing. No one has ever said anything like that. We just aren't living in fantasy land. We were told in 2015, clear as day, that major updates for FFXI were over. They were upfront about it. They have put out updates ever since then at a fairly consistent pace, smaller, but not nothing. This has been going on for 6 years now, exactly as expected. We all love FFXI, or we wouldn't be here. The difference between you and me is I have realistic expectations, fueled by what the devs themselves have told us to expect. The time for FFXI having a full development team that creates expansions is passed. You really need to just accept that at this point, or you're just going to be let down, over and over, when your pipe dream never comes to pass.


The thing is, you're not holding anyone accountable for anything. You're screaming into deaf ears. And there's a huge difference between constructive criticism and just straight up entitlement and complaining. Your sub gets you the monthly updates. That's what you're paying for, and they've delivered. You may disagree. Which is where your biggest power over them comes in: the ability to stop paying them when you think otherwise.

By the way, what exactly do you mean they've consistently *** players in the *** over and over? That is incredibly vague. My assumption is you're mad about no expansions or whatever. Me, I choose to be happy about the fact that I game I love is still getting updates and is even online 20 years after release. They could easily close FFXI down and have minimal consequences for doing it.

they've already walked back the no more updates thing btw.

here was the official word:
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/46414-Conference-Digest

are you still holding them to the mobile bit at the end as well? shut the *** up you absolute boot licker.

this is what they said

"FINAL FANTASY XI's major version updates will conclude with the implementation of the final chapter of Rhapsodies of Vana'diel, but there will continue to be minor version updates that address bugs and contain various balance adjustments."

and they've walked it back COUNTLESS times as plans shifted (note the no mobile you absolute and complete boot licker).

i'm not screaming on deaf ears, im not the only person who holds this opinion.

in every single post i said YOU HAVEN'T PLAYED MORE THAN 2 YEARS/9 MONTHS IN THE LAST 10 YEARS. in every single post. every single one.

gonna be interesting how you continue to twist SEs word on their own release, you're an idiot.

You have zero proof to back that up. I've shown you proof that I'm plenty invested in FFXI. You lost. Get over it, you man child.


Minor version updates going forward, like we have gotten since this announcement. What part of this is escaping your comprehension?


Source of them walking back their plans for no more major updates? You're making ***up. Your inability to accept that is going to leave you sad forever, poor guy.


Of course not, because it was announced that it was canceled. I work with what information I have at the time. You should try it sometime.


Correct, you're just the only one throwing his arms up and screaming "CASH GRAB WAAHH PREDATORY MONEY PRACTICES WAAHHH NO UPDATES WAAHHH". As I've said time and time again already, there's nothing wrong with constructive criticism. Throwing a man sized temper tantrum, however, is hard to watch.


I haven't twisted anything. They said no more major updates would be occurring. This has caused me to temper my expectations for future updates. If you have a source of them saying any variation of "major updates for FFXI are resuming", let's see it, man child.

does anyone see how this kid just absolutely twists words?

minor version updates that address bugs and contain various balance adjustments

he just conveniently cuts it off after the first 3 words, this is honestly disgusting.

i'm not sure what you think you proved, there were accounts in 2005 with as many played days as you have.

you're an embarrassment

So, they announce that they will stop major updates for XI. They continue on with content anyway, including a new story, without increasing your sub a dime more.

How exactly does that justify you being so upset now?

what do you not understand?

they said they were stopping development on the game and announced they were going to move FFXI to a mobile experience. it's all right there in the SE LINK I PROVIDED. the mobile game did not have a good reception and they started to pivot back to developing ffxi, thus the content we have gotten over the years. saying that they stopped development on ffxi and using that as an excuse to dismiss their horrible behavior is an outright lie, they changed plans multiple times.

i can understand how you wouldn't have followed any of it though if you didn't play at all during any of it, makes sense.

So I guess we're passing on the source, then? That's what I thought. Sit, boy.


?????????? Are you saying bug fixes and balance adjustments are major version updates? They literally said major updates were concluding with the final chapter of Rhapsodies. That is exactly what has happened. What is wrong with you dude?


If 10,700 hours of play time isn't enough to prove that I'm invested in FFXI, I really don't know what to tell you, aside from, go outside.

Wait, so them canning FFXI mobile is an announcement of the return of major version updates to FFXI to you? Holy ***, you delusional, poor guy.

no one asked if you're invested in ffxi retard, i stated you haven't been invested in ffxi in the last 10 years.

jesus you are easily the dumbest person i've seen post here in quite some time. please go back on another 10 year hiatus.

the source was posted right above, links are in blue. i bolded the part that i'm calling you out about. bold makes text stand our more so morons like you can read it better

I don't understand how you feel even more justified in being angry when, if anything, SE has overdelivered. Regardless of how their plans have shifted behind the scenes, which you can only make assumptions about, you were promised a maintenance mode game as of 2016 yet you have been getting an actively developed game. And all on the same exact fee they demanded of you for a maintenance mode game.

This position takes a hell of a lot of bite out of your supposed rationale for being so upset over an optional service.

The source you posted says major version updates were concluding. There is no announcement of them resuming. You're a liar, you're sad, and you need to just go away.

listen, this is the last time i'm going to explain this. the plan was to pivot FFXI players from FFXI (what you log into.. somehow, i'm not sure how you figure out how to log in let alone tie your own shoes) to FFXI mobile, it says that very very clearly in the press release in 2015.

they said specifically they would be doing no more content except for finishing rhapsodies and dynamis v2, but instead only fixing bugs and doing balancing.

they walked it back when they canned the mobile game as they no longer had a place to push FFXI players.

regardless, this is an absolute garbage reason to give them a pass for continuing to further monetize the game by forcing players to pay to solve the inventory problem they created. "herp derp they said they were not doing any more updates but they are, you should be happy" is not even true after the mobile game got cancelled and it's a very very bad reason to give a company a pass that is charging the same for a game as studios who have 300+ people working on the title

@Boworthless i'm not sure how you can say "the source i posted" i pasted you the exact verbiage.

this guy has got to be the dumbest person that has ever used these forums. i'll paste it again.

FINAL FANTASY XI's major version updates will conclude with the implementation of the final chapter of Rhapsodies of Vana'diel, but there will continue to be minor version updates that address bugs and contain various balance adjustments.

this isn't worth anyones time except for bosworth's though, since he's struggling to get through ROV more than likely on his alt and is an expert on all things bootlicking SE

They walked back nothing. You're making this up. FFXI mobile's cancelation didn't just magically imply major updates for FFXI would resume. You're full of ***.


MAJOR. UPDATES. CONCLUDING. WITH. FINAL. CHAPTER. OF. RHAPSODIES.


Minor updates is what we have gotten.

You might be the most stupid person to ever post here, congrats.