Ramuh Ambuscade V1
Ramuh Ambuscade V1
Anybody try Droning Whirlwind for the dispel instead of PLD's?
I bet Atomos would dispel it ez
Asura.Chiaia said: »
Anybody try Droning Whirlwind for the dispel instead of PLD's?
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Shield bash only 1min recast now (max) down to 50s w/ merits.
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I just entered on D to test if Osmosis worked. Didn't intend to actually stick around longer than a minute or 2 in the fight.
I was referring to the suggestion of Droning Whirlwind and Unbridled Learning's recast. You can get Osmosis down to a 24s recast, anyway.
Shiva.Berzerk said: »
Shield bash only 1min recast now (max) down to 50s w/ merits.
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Looks like BST can dispel it also. I tried on VD with both Randy and Zhivago.
That didn't disable stunga though, he still cast it a few times.
That didn't disable stunga though, he still cast it a few times.
Did he re-use Lightning Armor? He gains access to it whenever he loses the spikes effect.
They could both be unrelated to each other, though.
Nice. This means Dispel from RDM should also work.
He's actually not very physically threatening at all, even on VD. Only during his Conduit when Bolt Strike can occasionally hit me on Epeo RUN for 2800 if Battuta fails from a stun. Other that that, I didn't see much from him.
They could both be unrelated to each other, though.
Bismarck.Sterk said: »
I just entered on D to test if Osmosis worked. Didn't intend to actually stick around longer than a minute or 2 in the fight.
Nice. This means Dispel from RDM should also work.
He's actually not very physically threatening at all, even on VD. Only during his Conduit when Bolt Strike can occasionally hit me on Epeo RUN for 2800 if Battuta fails from a stun. Other that that, I didn't see much from him.
Malaketth said: »
The smn will not call out avatars if he is being kited.. so have your brd kite the smn while dealing with Avatars one at a time.
In case anyone missed it this is it. Its not exactly kiting, you have the BRD chase the smn and they wont summon until stopping. Mazurka and run speed gear.
Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
Did he re-use Lightning Armor?
Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
This means Dispel from RDM should also work.
Tested Atomos, works for the spikes
iamaman said: »
Looks like BST can dispel it also. I tried on VD with both Randy and Zhivago.
That didn't disable stunga though, he still cast it a few times.
That didn't disable stunga though, he still cast it a few times.
I'm guessing he put Lightning Armor back up. We are now 6/6 VD's on the "Shield Bash > never see Stunga" train. We also just stopped bringing a WHM.
PLD/WAR/WAR/WAR/BRD/COR. All roads lead to Naegling, lads.
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Osmosis worked on VD too
Bismarck.Sterk said: »
Osmosis (and Droning Whirlwind) are a bit different than Dispel, as they're not subject to a Macc check.
I was looking at it from an element perspective. He absorbs anything lightning-aligned, so I was thinking maybe he has high resistance/affinity to thunder/light-based spells. Finale never lands, and it is light based. But Droning Whirlind (wind), Osmosis (dark), Randy's Cross Thrash (which is physical, but has distortion/detonation properties) and Zvihago's Molting Plumage (wind) and Atomos (dark) all landed.
I think he just happens to highly-resist any light-based enfeebles. Has anyone seen Flash land at all? In dozen of casts, it is always resisted.
Someone earlier said they had to Stymie Frazzle 3 to land it, which is dark based. I've also not seen Dark Shot land yet. I imagine most if not all of the dispels currently working only work because they're guaranteed to land, including augmented Shield Bash.
Bahamut.Belkin said: »
iamaman said: »
Looks like BST can dispel it also. I tried on VD with both Randy and Zhivago.
That didn't disable stunga though, he still cast it a few times.
That didn't disable stunga though, he still cast it a few times.
I'm guessing he put Lightning Armor back up. We are now 6/6 VD's on the "Shield Bash > never see Stunga" train. We also just stopped bringing a WHM.
PLD/WAR/WAR/WAR/BRD/COR. All roads lead to Naegling, lads.
It def wasn't up, I was watching for the animation and damage. I verified it was up initially, then triggered the pet ability, and watched again, no animation, no damage, and no stun from spikes. It does seem to reduce frequency of stunga though.
I imagine it is something related to the length of the fights. I'm doing it solo on VD with trusts to test, so he is alive for a lot longer than he would be with your party configuration. I have seen him open with it, I've also seen him do it right after I provoke (several times), but the frequency of it is less when his spikes are down, that is for sure.
I wonder if it is related to either large spikes in emnity from his current target (which would correlate to the hate reset) or if he reaches a certain amount of damage delivered, which would explain why it is reduced when spikes are down.
Has anyone tested PUP's disruptor or regulator? If they both work then that could be a good way to keep him dispelled.
iamaman said: »
I imagine it is something related to the length of the fights
It is not. We accidentally entered the fight with the wrong job comp, so we decided to deathwarp. A few of us ran in to aggro, and after it used Lightning Armor, the second Blood Pact was Stunga. Nobody acted on Ramuh and it was less than 45 seconds into the fight.
Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
iamaman said: »
I imagine it is something related to the length of the fights
It is not. We accidentally entered the fight with the wrong job comp, so we decided to deathwarp. A few of us ran in to aggro, and after it used Lightning Armor, the second Blood Pact was Stunga. Nobody acted on Ramuh and it was less than 45 seconds into the fight.
Yea, I've seen him open with it several times also.
I'll experiment with it more later and see. I'm confident the spikes were down, though, and I was still seeing him stunga.
Asura.Emba said: »
Is there a Geomancy penalty in this one like many of the other newly implemented V1's?
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limited testing but it seems like the amount of buffs on the target effects Bolt strike damage
Been soloing on Warrior on easy and the summoner has low HP but some sort of damage resist, Tommahawk cancels it though, did 634 Full Break > 5440 Upheaval > 740 Fusion to kill, didn't have time to summon Alex or Odin
Bismarck.Sterk said: »
Osmosis (and Droning Whirlwind) are a bit different than Dispel, as they're not subject to a Macc check.
Asura.Emba said: »
Thanks Pap! always Sucks to be a GEO
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So I tried again on both VD and E, E because solo with no buffs, he's hard to hit esp with my equipsets not having been updated for BST in a while.
On both, he stunga-d us after he was dispelled at least once. On E he recast spikes three times, each time I dispelled, and each time he used Stunga least once after.
I did try to land a stun, but predatory glare kept missing or having no effect. Part of me wonders if the stun effect of Shield Bash is procing him and preventing him from using it. Is the stun effect of Shield Bash landing?
I'm not sure it matters much either way, when I fought him for 8 min solo on BST, I don't think he used it more than 3-4 times. There were others he only used it once or twice.
On both, he stunga-d us after he was dispelled at least once. On E he recast spikes three times, each time I dispelled, and each time he used Stunga least once after.
I did try to land a stun, but predatory glare kept missing or having no effect. Part of me wonders if the stun effect of Shield Bash is procing him and preventing him from using it. Is the stun effect of Shield Bash landing?
I'm not sure it matters much either way, when I fought him for 8 min solo on BST, I don't think he used it more than 3-4 times. There were others he only used it once or twice.
Shichishito said: »
Bismarck.Sterk said: »
Osmosis (and Droning Whirlwind) are a bit different than Dispel, as they're not subject to a Macc check.
I don't know if this is enough to satisfy you, but here's Osmosis stealing Shock Spikes while completely naked on VD.
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Bismarck.Sterk said: »
There are rare exceptions to this like Horrid Roar which does no damage, but will always land.
This may not always be the case. I just resisted Horrid Roar Last night from Lotanu in Sheol C. Gave the "Resists" message, and I was in a normal TP set on SAM. Though those monsters could be different, since Lotanu only dispels one buff with his version of Horrid Roar.
Does the same thing apply to Voracious Trunk, or is it specific to dispel moves that deal damage?
iamaman said: »
Is the stun effect of Shield Bash landing?
Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
Does the same thing apply to Voracious Trunk, or is it specific to dispel moves that deal damage?
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