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By Viciouss 2020-03-27 15:25:24
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kireek said: »
I have no idea what the needs are, the point being made is that the loudest mouth should not get all the ventilators IF other states need them now. He wants 40k more when he isn't using what he has because he has been told they might be needed in the future.

The point is he didn't say that, he said he needed them now or people would die. Yhat is emotional blackmailing, implying he needs them right now when he does not.

If nobody else needs them now then he should get them, if others need them now they should get them before he does for his apex moment. If you can't even accept that there is something wrong with you, if the parties involved were reversed I would.

lol, you are just making ***up again, and its contradicting a blog you just posted.

Cuomo is on the record in saying he is preparing for an Apex in coronavirus cases that is headed his way. Its not an if, but when. There is no "might happen" situation that you are parroting. Cuomo has also emphatically stated that he will need 30k ventilators for the Apex because that is what the data tells him. Again, not an opinion, a fact based on data.

He has also emphatically stated that he does not "need them now," (as you wrongfully claim) he needs them for the Apex. You and Trump are throwing wild opinions out there, Cuomo remains in the realm of facts.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-03-27 15:44:09
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From the New York Times:
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The White House had been preparing to reveal on Wednesday a joint venture between General Motors and Ventec Life Systems that would allow for the production of as many as 80,000 desperately needed ventilators to respond to an escalating pandemic when word suddenly came down that the announcement was off.

The decision to cancel the announcement, government officials say, came after the Federal Emergency Management Agency said it needed more time to *** whether the estimated cost was prohibitive. That price tag was more than $1 billion, with several hundred million dollars to be paid upfront to General Motors to retool a car parts plant in Kokomo, Ind., where the ventilators would be made with Ventec’s technology.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-03-27 15:44:26
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I think what Kireek is saying is that NYC is not the only place that is short on supplies for their expected apex. At there are a limited number of ventilators, NYC having their stockpiles filled before they even need them would potential deny other locations ventilators. There’s a natural consequence of rationing on short supply and doing it fairly. Everyone gets something, but nobody gets enough. NYC has to figure out how to deal just like everyone else.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-03-27 15:46:32
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There are 5x more people in NYC they need no less than 5x more ventilators than anyone else.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-03-27 15:47:58
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
There are 5x more people in NYC they need no less than 5x more ventilators than anyone else.

I never said they didn’t. I just said it doesn’t make sense to give them 100% of what they need if it screws over other locations in the process.
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By Viciouss 2020-03-27 15:48:25
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Except they don't have their stockpiles filled. They are well short of their goal. There is a ventilator shortage in this country, but there is time to do something about it before we reach our Apex, which, based on the last two days (30,000 new cases and counting), is looking to be catastrophic.
Instead of getting into Twitter spats with companies, Trump needs to get off his *** and actually buse the DPA to deal with the shortage.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-03-27 15:49:15
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It's not fair to make anyone do triage, but unilaterally screwing everyone isn't a good option either. Neither is haggling about a price.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-03-27 15:52:42
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Viciouss said: »
Except they don't have their stockpiles filled. They are well short of their goal. There is a ventilator shortage in this country, but there is time to do something about it before we reach our Apex, which, based on the last two days (30,000 new cases and counting), is looking to be catastrophic.
Instead of getting into Twitter spats with companies, Trump needs to get off his *** and actually buse the DPA to deal with the shortage.

I never said their stockpiles were filled. You guys gotta read first, reply later.
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By Viciouss 2020-03-27 15:53:49
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I refuse!
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By Viciouss 2020-03-27 15:55:17
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If Trump actually gets off Twitter and does his job, more than enough ventalitors can be produced by American companies. It's a complete mystery why he has repeatedly spoken of using the DPA but has yet to actually use it.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-03-27 15:58:21
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Viciouss said: »
If Trump actually gets off Twitter and does his job, more than enough ventalitors can be produced by American companies. It's a complete mystery why he has repeatedly spoken of using the DPA but has yet to actually use it.

Is "it's a mystery" code for he's a dumbfuck?

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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-03-27 15:59:35
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And as I said, the federal government could and should have been better prepared. Apparently H1N1 wasn’t a big enough wake up call to stockpile what we needed at the federal level. However, the states and cities were caught with their pants down too. Ignorance is bliss until a crisis hits.
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By volkom 2020-03-27 18:23:31
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not trump related: https://www.nationalreview.com/news/now-that-canada-is-rationing-masks-trudeau-faces-backlash-for-donating-medical-supplies-to-china/

but imagine having supplies and donating them to a country in need only to be blamed for doing so ~ can't imagine what the media would think of it if it was Trump
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By Viciouss 2020-03-27 19:07:08
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Looks like Trump is attacking American governors again in another moment of failed leadership, for reasons he makes up. Providing yet another example of how he views women as inferior to him, I'm sure the Michigan voters will remember it.
 
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-03-27 20:07:28
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DirectX said: »
I'm sure they'll forget.

No, never cared in the first place
 
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By volkom 2020-03-27 20:13:12
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
volkom said: »
not trump related: https://www.nationalreview.com/news/now-that-canada-is-rationing-masks-trudeau-faces-backlash-for-donating-medical-supplies-to-china/

but imagine having supplies and donating them to a country in need only to be blamed for doing so ~ can't imagine what the media would think of it if it was Trump

It was the proper thing to do, once China is back under control we are hoping they'll be able to ramp up production and help other countries. Things are starting to get ugly over here and people are panicking which explain the backlash against Trudeau. Maybe China won't help us ... We can't say for sure.

As for Trump, he would never do this, but if he somehow found that kind of empathy in him, he would have been utterly destroyed by medias across the whole political spectrum. I'm sure even evangelicals would turn on him for that.

not sure if this was followed through or not but the US did announce medical supply assistance back in early February.

https://china.usembassy-china.org.cn/the-united-states-announces-assistance-to-the-novel-coronavirus/
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By Ragnarok.Ozment 2020-03-28 10:39:10
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Trump refusing to send medical aid/supplies to states with Governors he doesn't like.
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By Viciouss 2020-03-28 10:50:07
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Trump continues attacking American Governor's he doesn't like

Been the lead story on Fox all morning. His opinions are baseless.
 
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By Viciouss 2020-03-28 11:35:25
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kireek said: »

Probably ones lying about needing ventilators while having stockpiles.

Its been proven no is doing that.
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By Viciouss 2020-03-28 11:46:18
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Andrew Cuomo with another press conference today, crushing it. Debunking his "critics" and stepping into the leadership void this country is facing.
 
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Nice lies.
 
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mmhmm, did you Google that line?
 
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