That Impeachment Thing....

Turns out, that wasn't true at all. Not even a small amount of ISIS fighters were French citizens, much less a large amount. Trump just made it up, like he does everything else.

Also, Trump did cancel his afternoon press conference, because they were very clearly mocking his first one. His feelings got hurt so he is running out of there.

We are used to this kind of incomplete information. How many currently captured ISIS fighters are from France? Your wiki provides no information on that topic. Remember, according to you, France has only identified 689 French fighters in the entire army, out of how many hundred thousand? So if only 1-2% of the entire army comes from France, why should we believe there are a large amount of French fighters currently among the captured?

Whatever we will always have our freedom fries!

If we can't have French fries all is lost...200 plus years of a country down the drain.

Remember Patrick Henry...give me french fries or give me death !

I'm used to pointless bickering bordering on incoherent nonsense but then again I'm also used to FFXIAH !

Yeah thats not gonna happen, just because every European trip Trump takes goes the exact same way (cries about spending, cries about being laughed at) doesn't mean the USA is gonna abandon NATO.

Well, there's

The difference is that Obama appointed Biden to Ukraine, followed by a prosecutor getting fired that was investigating Burisma. Biden is on video admitting that he told the Ukraine that he was specifically holding up aid to get this investigator fired. In his threat of holding the aid, he specifically mentioned that he had the backing of the president in this, and that he would call him if they wanted to verify. We have the VP admitting the POTUS was part of the quid. Can you imagine if the situations were reversed? If Pence bragged about doing this on tv, can you honestly say that you, Vic, Oz, and the left would be dismissing it so quickly as being "debunked because he was just trying to take too much credit?" That's been the claim so far.

Move forward to Trump. There is no video evidence of anything. There's an allegation about a phone call from an unknown whistle blower. The transcript of the call has been released and refutes the whistle blower's claim. No one has disputed the substance of the transcript, only minute details which were A) Trump mentioned Biden being on video talking about corruption and B) Zelensky specifically mentioned Burisma. There have been no witnesses that have testified that Trump, nor anyone of authority, ever told them aid or a meeting was being held to force the Ukraine into making a public investigation announcement. The only witnesses thus far, have testified that they assumed that was the policy and that their assumptions weren't based on Trump, or anyone of authority, making the demand or even mentioning it.

Why did the 2nd situation blow up into this big ordeal, and the first one didn't? The first one had a witness, the VP at that, that actually claimed the POTUS instructed him to do it. Their threat actually accomplished their goal. The Trump situation has a transcript that refutes the claim, and witnesses that say they were never told that there was any kind of quid. Both direct parties say it didn't happen. The only ones making the claim have admitted that they were assuming things based on their own feelings and not based on any instruction. There is direct evidence in the first situation of a quid. There is evidence to the contrary of a quid in the 2nd.

And here we are.

There is evidence that the Democrats are full of ***. Mostly cause they haven't stopped bitching about Trump since 2016. And there is no signs of it stopping.

Instead of blaming Trump they should be working on why us not Trump.

Defeating an incumbent is not easy. And they are crashing and burning.

They have planned this impeachment since Nov 2016. This wasn't just because of a phone call. They were dying to impeach Trump 3 years ago.

Yeah, it was sure nice of him to hand us a clear abuse of power to impeach his *** on. Just think, we haven't even gotten to his myriad of financial crimes. Thats next year!

So much this. The Independents have switched course and now oppose impeachment with a growing majority. You would think that the Democrats would take note of this and look for the nearest exit, but instead they're all like:

Just make sure you have something planned for 2021-2024.

Oh we have that covered, beat Trump in '20. No problem.

So, the 2016 gameplan.

Yeah cause that plan worked great.

That would be fun, but it would be funnier if Trump gets removed from office early into his second term, and then Pence finishes out and wins reelection twice in the ultimate backfire.

*2018

You do know how midterm elections work, right? Because you're basically adopting the same mindset as a 2012 Republican, and they had a better midterm.

Yeah, I do. I also know how Pennslyvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin have gone even further to the left since 2016, and with no blue states going even remotely closer to the right, Trump can't win without those 3 states. He just squeaked by the EC in 2016 by about 100,000 votes. Thats not gonna happen again.

You said that same thing in 2016 Vic... but let me guess this time you mean it?

Except the RCP state polls have Trump up in Wisconsin, competitive in Michigan (beating Warren by 4, losing to Biden by 1), and back-and-forth in Pennsylvania.

If we listened to people like you we would never have any progress. Probably still using stones to start fire.