Random Politics & Religion #38: The 38th One

*The day Vic posts something funny*

Me:

He is having to do damage control because all of his usual supporters are slamming him. Graham is drafting a resolution to condemn and reverse the move, and add sanctions to Turkey and suspend them from NATO if they attack the Kurds, which is the whole reason they are going in.

Apparently there are 1,321 whistleblowers.

And they blow there damn whistles hard !

Their *

In honor of Drumpf being finished I blew my whistle three times.

Then I say "Drumpf is finished Drumpf is finished Drumpf is finished"

Nothing happened he is still President.

A LOT of republicans are calling BS on this.

Spines! Whodathunkit!

It's a disaster, we used the Kurd ground forces to wipe out ISIS with our air support so our soldiers didn't have to face the danger, and they lost thousands of men. Now we are letting the Turks kill them all. This is something you see the bad guys do in movies. But for the US, it's just Trump being Trump. What's he gonna say when the 10,000 ISIS prisoners just go free?

Yet you are being dishonest. We've explained to you as well that there is no ongoing investigation into Biden, merely Trump seeking dirt on him. I'm sure that is very typical in politics, but where Trump crossed the line was in seeking that information from a foreign national. The reason that this is considered illegal is because foreign nationals will have their own interests in mind, which does not coincide with the best interests of America.

Who is to say that you aren't lying also ?

So if you are lying and Nausi is lying...how many licks does it take to get to the center of Tootsie Pop ?

Uhhh, no. You're still missing the mark. The U.S. gets help from foreign officials on a regular basis for intelligence relating to investigations. It's okay if you don't know the law, but don't pretend that you do. Cite an official source to back your exact assertion and we can talk.

No. That’s factually incorrect. Barr is investigating the involvement of Ukraine and their role into the origins of the fake “trump colluded with russia” scandal. Thats what Trump was referring to when he requested Ukraines cooperation, to cooperate with Barr in his investigation. This isn’t some unfounded talking point, and it isn’t some campaign strategy. It is a legitimate investigation of the justice department.

As has been said dozens of times by now, Biden is on tape bragging about his own corruption. The involvement of high level US diplomats and their leverages over government officials in Ukraine is entirely relevant to that investigation. Trump was not asking for dirt he was asking for cooperation with out justice department.

Have you even read the transcript?

Warren caught lying about getting canned for being preggers.

It's ok to ask for help with an active investigation, however it's not ok to pressure a foreign leader to begin an investigation in their country into a political opponent that has never been investigated for anything. It's also not ok to offer the assistance of the AG with a non-existent investigation that you want started.

There is no hiding behind the lie that Trump was seeking cooperation with an active investigation because there is no active investigation. No one is investigating Joe Biden. No one has ever investigated either Biden. There is no credible evidence to even look into.

Clapper came out over the weekend and admitted Obama ordered him to spy on Trump.

I keep hearing about how "relatable" she is as a candidate, and I just don't get it. IMO she's the most demonstrably fake person on the campaign trail.

Won't even bother asking for a source because we all know there isn't one.

Also, the Ukraine did not have anything to do with the 2016 election. They were not involved with Russia's interference. They aren't exactly friends over there, so no idea where that conspiracy is coming from. Maybe just trying to give Trump cover. Not working.

I feel sorry for people who sympathize with her soft spoken tone.

100% nasty woman.

There is no investigation into Biden, I think that is where the fallacy in your argument lies. The source of Trump seeking damaging information from the Ukraine is on video, he admitted to it. I don't have a link to that right now, but I'm sure I can get one. I just didn't think that was in question...or are you attempting one of those "goal post movements" where you ask me to prove something, then I prove it, and then you say the proof doesn't prove it? I'm beginning to see the method to your madness.

The only proof I need is the FFXIAH seal of approval.

It sounds like I'm an argument with a guy who heard a thing, repeats the thing, and defends the thing vehemently, but doesn't really know what the thing is even about.

Oh hey, welcome to PnR.

I'm trying to be sincerely sympathetic. I'll bet that once Nixon's administration began spiraling downward, many of his followers stuck by his side. Loyalty is a great thing, but there comes a point where enough is enough and you have to call it out for what it is, criminal behavior.

Look he is the President and most of us are *** on the internet.

Nobody gives a ***about our opinions.

Whether you love or hate the President doesn't change a damn thing.

You can *** all you want but at the end of the day. He will still be the President and your whining will have done nothing.

If you want to make a difference get your lazy *** off of FFXAIH and run for local government.

Stop bitching start doing.

Not only do I not know what most of Vic is talking about I don't care.

I can't even pretend to give a ***.

That is how uninteresting his posts are.

That's cute, but the public turned against Nixon pretty heavily after a time because he engaged in impeachable behavior. Trump's approval numbers haven't even budged because the Democrats have been trying to impeach him since day 1 and poisoned their own well. This would be a minor week-long scandal at most for a Democrat, and everyone knows it.

I would laugh really hard if Trump saw he could be removed from office in the Senate then resigned.

And the Democrats would by hysterical with Mike Pence in his place.

And it would all be for nothing.

So as long as the Democrats remain hysterical incoherent lunatics.

I'll enjoy everything that is the Trump Presidency.

I don't even give a ***what Trump does. He is pissing off liberals and that is good enough for me.