Luck Of The Draw: A Corsair's Guide *NEW*

Follow-up Lua question about Arislan's COR Lua from the guide. Using the file as is, I can't get the selectqdtarget feature (toggle <stnpc> vs <t>) to work. The toggle notification works but the functionality always stays <t>.

I read through the relevant code (@lines 1263 and 1322) and see no input for <stnpc> anywhere. Is there a line missing? Is this function actually working for anyone? Sanity check me pls!

I would expect to see ('@input /ja "'..doqd..'" <stnpc>') somewhere (like on line 1336 for <t>)...

Thanks

https://github.com/ArislanShiva/luas/blob/master/Arislan-COR.lua

Have fun!

NEW COR Spreadsheet >.>
As always it's a shared folder so the link has not changed: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B28ENNCAVh_sc3VEazl1VzJVSXc

I have not changed the way WSD is working ATM because I truly believe it will have a fix incoming. If nothing happens by Oct's update then I'll change.

September 16th to 21st, 2018
Wildfire and Leaden Salute: MDmg wasn't calced in the sheet for Ranged Weapons Skills only Quick Draw.

Edit: Ok I added MDmg calcs to the sheet but forgot to add them in the final calc for WF/LS. Also I noticed magic WSes don't have the math for post lvl 99. Working on it atm.
Read the post below on Rev3.

**It's still not in the sheet for Melee WSes but ATM there are no magic melee WSes in the sheet so doesn't matter.

Changed ODT Rate (Ranged) on Setup sheet to Empy AM and made it a drop down list 0%, 30%, 40% and 50%. Added a check later on to make sure you're actually wearing Arma or it doesn't count.

Foods: Altana's Repast (NQ, +1, & +2)
**MAB added to food calculations.

Necks: JSE x6 Base and Rank Max (NQ, +1, & +2)

Rings: Epaminondas's, Mummu Ring
**(Mummu +2 Set Bonus added: 8-32 Dex, Agi, & Chr)

Head: Lanun +2/+3, Mummu +2

Body: Lanun +2/+3, Mummu +2
**(Nisroch Jerkin had 0 STP fixed to 7, True Shot +5 added -Oversight when I added True Shot as stat to the "Gear List" instead of hard coded like it use to be.)

Hands: Lanun +2/+3, Mummu +2
**(Mummu NQ & +1 weren't listed as %.)
**(Relic(Lanun) +3 Triple Shot to Quad Shot calc added. Assumes 50% really need better testing done imo.)

Legs: Lanun +2/+3, Mummu +2

Feet: Lanun +2/+3, Mummu +2

Ranged: Augged EMP weapons added.
**Going to assume it's just addtive with older REMA WSDMG increases since no one seems to be testing this and ATM I can't.
**Added new sections for Emp and Aeonic in the calculation for respective weaponskills.

Daggers: Commodore's, Lanun and Rostam added too. For Commodore's & Lanun if you're in dyna give yourself +10 more acc manually.
**Will say depending on buffs Path A and B can jump bigly into first place between each other.

Weapons: FUA(M/O) (Follow up Attack) (Main/Offhand) added to "Gear Lists" stats and ODDM (Occ deals double DMG mainhand).

***FUAM added ic calcs but ghettoly (Rate x 0.99) for main hand added to AVG hits while this works 100% it should be added even better so you can see probability like the rest of Multi Attack but wasn't a big priotity since most fo you just care about the deeps(DPS) outcome. Sorry, this part never got saved.

Swords: Blurred Sword +1 changed to 40% from 45% to be inline with Blurred Dagger +1.

Mobs: Copied the Stats of WoC and Apex Bats (136) from the DNC Spreadsheet.

Lets talk about Mythic and COR/RNG spreadsheet...
**Mythic AM 1
***Mythic AM 1 R.Acc wasn't on sheet at all, added to RA, RA WS and Barrage calcs. Made proper section on "Setup" sheet and a table on the "Data" sheet.

**Mythic AM 2
***AM2 had left over checks for Melee Att on melee only but could never go off since it looked for Carnwenhan... RNG sheet has this check too. I ripped it out on COR sheet now.
***AM2 had no calcs for R.Atk at all, added to RA, RA WS and Barrage calcs.

**Mythic AM3
***Mythic AM3 was adding Occ shoots twice to twice in RA calculations :( IDK who added this part it came after Mote's last version. Hugely big *** up
***Mythic AM3 ODD/ODT DMG Ranged Set 1 was calculating DMG lower then it should have by checking "D Rating" a second time.
***Mythic AM3 ODD/ODT DMG Ranged Set 2 was calculating DMG lower then it should have by checking "Over all Ranged ACC". It's the cell before "D Rating" :/
***Death Penalty 119 III wasn't adding ODD/ODT DMG to Ranged Attacks nor would have "Death Penalty 119 III Aug".

Should have all the proper checks to not count them if you don't actually have Mythic equipped. >.>
Also has checks to cancel out lower lvl AMs if you have a higher one turned out.


Verde fixed but left some of this in the RNG spreadsheet too. Some of it was from Moletenn's time and others that edited COR before I took over. I may have forgot some checks when III came out but I think III weapons were in it before I started.

Not added:
Orpheus's Sash (I need more info first.)
Raetic (Soon)

I don't think I ever made a public version of the below.
Post May 25th, 2017 to early 2018 - This is a bit fuzzy since I forgot to log this stuff down as I went.
Swift Blade added.
4 New Swords added. (Hepa)
WSAcc is now a listed stat not the old list it as Acc with a (WS) tag on the piece of gear.
Regal Ring now counts for set Bonus.
WSAcc Listed in Gear/R_Gear.
Fotia Gear added so that it can later be added to Calc +1% proc rate.
Embrava Haste Calc new info. Not Skill/20 its really Skill/20 + 1. Also never had fixed for set 2.
T2 of Rapid Shot added with a level check.
Added a 99% cap to Rapid Shot in Sets both Barrage and Ranged Attack 1/2.

ToDo:
Add Raetic and get FUAO calculations added so it works.
Change Staff Affinity to it's own term since it is different from other affinity.
Add Volte Harness Set at Afinia's request.
Figure out how I want Fotia gear to be displayed.
There is ton of stuff I like that Bradon did on the DRG spreadsheet that at some point I'd like to do. Killer effects, mob weakness(piercing etc), cheer effects...

If you find any mistakes PM me them please.

Update: Oct 4th, 2018:
All 4 Hepa Swords did not have their DMG or Delay added to sheet that has been fixed.

Rev 2 Rev 3(read below) out the new Empy and Aeonic III Aug WS bonus was checking for the Weapon from Set 1 even in set 2. Fixed.

Edit: Ok I added MDmg calcs to the sheet but forgot to add them in the final calc for WF/LS. Also I noticed magic WSes don't have the math for post lvl 99. Working on it atm. This equals a lot, thousands of DMG when we get into high end sets.

Edit 2 (Rev 3): Baetyl Pendant was listed as MAB +14 when it's really +13

Edit 3 (Rev 3): Ok I have it all fixed up (for us that only care about iLVL 119 DMG that is, I expect that's almost all of us) (Rev 3) manually telling it we have a 119 Ranged weapon equiped. ATM we never gave it iLVL info for weapons other then checks on REMA weapons. I need to go in and add iLVL info for all weapons (at least ranged) but if I plan to add magic Melee WSes then it has to be all... The WS DMG should now equal Afania's WS DMG spreadsheet/ bg equation. It's a couple hundred DMG+ what it should be but we never figured out the flooring 100% on magic wses. Trying to figure it out to update it at some point for everyone.

With MAB +7, Mag Dmg +25, AGI +15, and M.Acc +25 on the Commodore Charm, would't it beat Baetyl for the dream tier LS set (or at the least, wouldn't it beat Sanctity Necklace for the LS m.acc swap pieces)?

Hell yes, AGI is a modifier to Leaden

Was more of a rhetorical question as the guide still has Baetyl Pendant in there, but it's been updated in other spots for the Commodore Charm (i.e, pre-shot set).

Was last updated before the augments were known. At what rank would it start outperforming the Sanctity Necklace? I can't remember the general X AGI = Y MAB rule of thumb.

I'm not going to plug in all the ranks but even a R15 NQ Neck beats Baetyl Pendant by a few hundred DMG. Sanc has even less MAB.

I took a look at the preshot sets listed in the guide and the Flurry sets aren't quite right. I think you want the following

ItemSet 361575
ItemSet 361576

The Flurry I set gives +9 additional Rapid Shot over what was in the guide and the Flurry II set gives +5 additional Rapid Shot. I know it's Rapid Shot, but it's better than nothing.

Your Flurry 2 sets gives +1 more Rapid shot. It caps at 99% and the prev set was at 98%.

Personally I think the Flurry 1 set is iffy but I know Arislan goes for the straight 70% where I think it's probably 72-3% to actually cap just like most things in the game are not true values.

edit: though maybe even if I was right since the brings it up to 98 rs if i counted right atm it might still be worth it. don't feel like mathing right now though

also just looks like they only did partial redo on sets since new weapon/neck

can you dual wield dyna weps in dyna to get points on both or only get main hand points ?

The points accrued are split evenly amongst all your augmented items.

I think you'd have to provide some data for this. Snapshot was tested to show there was no measurable difference between 70% and 84% Snapshot. Fast Cast isn't represented using some binary base, I think most things are actually represented using integers and Haste is one of those exceptions.

I didn't even notice but you're right about the Flurry II set, you're only gaining 1 Rapid Shot (lol). That said, there's nothing novel or exotic about the Flurry II set in regards to the other sets. If people have the gear for the first two sets, they likely have this gear. It's just a different combination of items people already have that provide a slightly better result.

Also I'm not sure if it's been posted, but it was implied that the wave 3 fodder resist Leaden Salute in some thread somewhere. This isn't true. If you're getting resists you're deficient in magic accuracy. I don't have issues and I don't have any Rostam although I do get Indi-Focus and use Marine Stewpot. I also use herculean gloves with 30+ macc/mab augments instead of Carmine Finger Gauntlets. We were even able to Leaden Salute on the wave 2 boss although we do use Dark Threnody II for that. I'm not sure how much is magic accuracy required for any of this, just that if you're having issues you can probably remedy them.

In that short post, you first say that it's not true that wave 3 fodders resist Leaden, to later say that you needed to use tons of macc to be able to land LS on them.

It's like I would say "I heard that ppl say wave 3 THF has high evasion. That's not ture. You only need to push your accuracy with buffs and debuff him and you are fine."

What you wanted to say is "IT IS TRUE that Wave 3 fodders resist LS, because they have high magic evasion, but with enough macc buffs, it's possible to overcome it."

I assume by resist, he means high SDT rather than just extra magic evasion against it.

I think I was fairly clear I was simply stating there's nothing unique about Leaden and wave three as some have formerly suggested.

I'm also not sure if extra magic accuracy is needed in comparison to anything else. Most people use pixie hairpin, which has zero agility and macc on it, and Carmine finger gauntlets which also have zero macc.

All right my bad then, tho not everyone are even familiar with what SDT actually is and how it works so when you talking about resists and imo using mind shortcuts, then its harder to understand the meaning.

Would be probably better to explain it a litte better next time. Even what you said now that "there iw nothing unique in wave 3 fodders, they just have very high evasion so you need around <number here> macc to land unresisted LS on them". That would be shorter, easier to understand and more helpful :)

Tho I am grateful for your info anyway because our ls plan to start doing wave 3 soon and the plan was to use corsairs. May I ask you what weapon and ammo you was using too?

If he's referring to leaden discussion in dyna 3 thread, I mentioned volte mob has high stat(ilv149) and needs macc buffs, and leaden dmg is crap until the right fetter is dead because of elemental dmg mechanic.

Didn't mention SDT.

I don't think the circles affect damage on the volte mobs. We did a few runs thinking this until we actually just tried using Leaden out of the gates and it worked without issue. Saves a lot of time because they die very fast this way.

Really? We do dyna D with mage setup frenquently And the first fetter+volte group always took the longest to clear without unlock.

We've been running with ranged. I haven't tested any if these observations with laser precision but we didn't seem to get resists on even the first group.

Also, the compiled mob list on bg forums lists hydra as 130% fire/light and 50% dark/ice with no additional modifiers. It seems like the hydra in dynamis divergence must be different because 50% is supposed to guarantee a resist but that does not seem to be the case in my experience. Our Trueflight damage is off the walls there so I think they might take double light damage.

Does anyone have a GS/addon that'll work like AutoEcho but for when I run out of Trump Cards? Or that'll at least warn me if I'm low

What is the ranged accuracy check on the wave 3 boss? I saw talk of upwards of 1500?

Some additional info on this.

After reviewing this page (https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Resist) it seems like 50 dark/ice SDT might actually line up to the observed results. 50 SDT would guarantee a half resist, although I find even if this is the case the damage is still very high. I feel there is likely some modifier being applied (maybe for all magic?) as a 3000 TP Trueflight will do 100k in DD but only 45k~ to a level 0 mob. The disparity between Trueflight and Leaden Salute is also not as profound on the wave 3 boss (Trueflight doesn't appear to gain any bonus over Leaden Salute with 6/8 circles down), so any natural SDT may be different in that scenario as well.

This makes sense since volte are fomor, I actually regeared whm for dyna just so people can come rng and TF things, lol.

What kind of augments on herc gloves will beat carmine gloves +1 for leaden/wildfire? I currently have MAB+20 wsd+4, but I'm not sure if the 22 MAB outweigh wsd+4.

You need really great augments to actually do more damage than Carmine. I just tested my augments (STR+7 Macc+32 Mab+29 WSD+3) against level 0 stuff using Trueflight.

Herculean - 45598
Carmine - 46168

So I'm down 1.25% damage from the swap, but I gain 32 magic accuracy. Wave 3 requires a lot of macc so it's worth using in that scenario.

This is what I was able to gather from our run:
First thing, this is only 1min session. I accidentally hit my TS macro when bubbles/songs weren't up and RD was down at the time, so lost out on about 30secs. We were also cutting close on time, so I didn't to spend to much time testing. This test was done with buffs designed for a melee setup.

Zone: Windy
All 8 Fetters killed

Ranged: ItemSet 361691
Subjob: NIN
Buffs: SV:(H.March/Minuet V/Minuet IV/Minuet III/STR EtudeII) x2 Madrigals, 2 Minne, Haste II, Wizards Lucky Regal, Samurai 11 Regal, Triple Shot(1min), Darksday,
Debuffs: BoG+EA Malaise, Torpor, BoG+EA Frailty, Distract III, Frazzle III, Dia III+Light Shot
Time: 1min
Total Damage: 473893
Average TP: 1403
Highest RA: 11934 (4 hit)
Total WS: 8
Average WS Damage: 50112
Leaden Set: ItemSet 361693

Melee: ItemSet 361692
Subjob: Same
Buffs: Same (minus Triple Shot)
Debuffs: Same
Time: 1min
Total Damage: 472731
Average TP: 1509
Total WS: 9
Average WS Damage: 51020
Leaden Set: ItemSet 361694

TL;DR; Ranged in terms of overall damage won. Tried to do melee+TS but died in the process. I did like meleeing better as there wasn't a delay. I would still do melee but if you want that extra damage then ranged TS is the way to go.

Thanks for the test. It seems that your total dmg was close enough(only 1k difference) that if random variation or gear difference(both ra nor melee set has room for improvement) comes into play then the result could change. I wouldn't be surprised if another person or you do the test again and melee ended up winning if the other person use different gear or get lucky/unlucky with TS or MA proc.

I would read the result as "ra with TS can be competitive to melee" and "ra is worth using during pd", but not "ra > melee if TS is up"