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September 2017 Version Update
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By Odin.Spoiled 2017-09-11 15:46:04
Yea seems like no essence steal and no level up if no songs/rolls/geo effects. Tested with Songs/Rolls with no GEO bubble, Essence steal leveled him up and he took my rolls/songs. So looks like GEO bubbles, BRD songs and COR rolls make him level up.
By clearlyamule 2017-09-11 15:47:45
And I've had it steal rolls before. Other thefts are still annoying but can be dealt with
Leviathan.Sidra
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By Leviathan.Sidra 2017-09-11 15:48:53
So basically they just want us to fight it without geo cor and brd?
Go go Rdm or SMN supporting mele burns
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By Carbuncle.Papesse 2017-09-11 15:52:47
They also lvl up with Avatar's Favor buffs.
Asura.Saevel
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-09-11 16:00:15
Go go Rdm or supporting mele burns
Go in with at least two or more BLU's and problem is solved. Maybe two BLU's, a RDM and a WHM with a BLM tossed in for sleeps. ES Sab Distract III should nerf their evasion for awhile, Dia III + Sweeping or even Agnon and beat the main NM down.
Lakshmi.Buukki
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2017-09-11 16:00:19
So they are bringing back 20 minute unbuffed 2004 melee burn fight nostalgia?
Way to bring it back to the basics. I missed the old days (rolls eyes)
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By Asura.Warusha 2017-09-11 16:01:01
I'd try PLD RDM(distract) THF(feint) or DD with solid accuracy sets for melee.
I am interested to try MB set up too if accuracy is too much of a problem for VD.
Lakshmi.Buukki
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2017-09-11 16:01:31
I'm guessing SAM for Ageha would be more useful than waiting on the recast timer on Angon.
Leviathan.Sidra
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By Leviathan.Sidra 2017-09-11 16:07:11
Carbuncle.Papesse said: »They also lvl up with Avatar's Favor buffs.
So no Favor, but Haste2, Crystal Blessing, and Ifrit's Warcry are kosher?
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-09-11 16:10:24
I'm guessing SAM for Ageha would be more useful than waiting on the recast timer on Angon.
Whatever way of reaching pDiff cap works, we know Angon is 100% and I hope Sweeping and Ageha would be sufficient. Two BLUs would own this fight just because of MG enabling people to reach haste cap without needing BRD / GEO buffs.
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2017-09-11 16:11:50
i'm thinking rng, don't need buffs to get passable levels of accuracy or attack and it's inherently easy to support
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By Asura.Ivlilla 2017-09-11 16:12:26
Defense down of Angon stacks with Box Step and Dia. They're all multiplicative together, right? Dia III, 10/10 Box Step, and Angon should be something around -47% defense (if they're multiplicative, really can't remember).
DNCorDRG BLU RDM BLM WHM Tank. DNC can stack Box Step and Quickstep, DRG can Angon, BLU can diffuse Mighty Guard, RDM can Haste II, Dia III, and other enfeebles, BLM silences and magic bursts off of skillchains (if those occur), and WHM can want to die inside from playing WHM. DNC and DRG would be more Defense Down, but the DRG would only be getting haste II and possibly Haste Samba, if that doesn't trigger level up, which would only be 65% haste, with the lack of Mighty Guard.
If the the DNC or the BLU is able to tank- if- then come with DNC, DRG, and BLU, and go to town. If BLU can reliably sleep, you could leave out the BLM, and come DNC DRG BLU RDM WHM Tank.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mithlas 2017-09-11 16:13:56
Trying out V2, the Dragon seems to have -DT. Takes more damage from Ranged when flying, but otherwise it's a slow kill. Anyone know how to help that?
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By Sylph.Reain 2017-09-11 16:15:56
Mine exploding blue procs and wakes up all the adds. Need to WS it quickly.
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By Sylph.Reain 2017-09-11 16:22:33
Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »i'm thinking rng, don't need buffs to get passable levels of accuracy or attack and it's inherently easy to support
Probably worth it just for all the perfect dodge spam if you can deal with hate reset.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2017-09-11 16:23:13
If Essence Steal is what triggers the level up w/ buffs, then GEO using only Frailty should be safe, correct? This would mean BLU, Geo w/ frailty, and any other additional DD (THF for Feint, DRG/SAM/DNC/WAR for stat down) would be workable.
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By Asura.Kogasho 2017-09-11 16:31:57
Was SMN Nerfed?
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By Asura.Avallon 2017-09-11 16:39:29
Yes, Avatar's Favor doesn't work on this month's Ambuscade (without negative consequences). :S
Asura.Sechs
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By Asura.Sechs 2017-09-11 16:42:37
If Essence Steal is what triggers the level up w/ buffs, then GEO using only Frailty should be safe, correct? They are immune to debuff bubbles (or so multiple people have reported)
Lakshmi.Buukki
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2017-09-11 16:45:32
Thanks. read through this thread and made a separate post. You can add your findings there or I can edit the with anything new.
Thanks
http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/51402/ambuscade-volume-1-september-2017/#3287006
Asura.Gotenn
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By Asura.Gotenn 2017-09-11 17:14:18
Just to give an FYI, Cornelias Indi haste has its own icon and effect. Meaning that Indi haste (from Sylvie or player) and Haste I/II stacks with Cornelia.
If anyone can find the icon number for it, it would be much appricated so I can add the +20% of Cornelia into my haste calculations for NIN. With Haste I, Indi-Haste, and Cornelia, you gain 15%+ 28.8%+ 20%. so well over cap.
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By Odin.Spoiled 2017-09-11 17:19:59
With Volume Two, I noticed if you have two people standing on opposite feet he takes normal damage.
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By Lakshmi.Elidyr 2017-09-11 19:21:03
With Volume Two, I noticed if you have two people standing on opposite feet he takes normal damage. New server who dis?
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2017-09-11 19:43:44
Craftsmanship is tedious on stage 4, roughly 10 hours cycling 5 recipes nonstop but not doing objectives. You no longer get failure rate+ if you ignore the objectives, which is nice if you want to work on it but don't want to render the shield unusable while you grind through.
Have to trade your craftsman's crystal to mewk chorosap, which unlocks an incredibly convoluted system that seems akin to skillchaining with your craft elements.
Quote: [20:37:00.046] Mewk Chorosap : Ahh, I see you managed to obtain the craftsman's crystal: bonecraft. Excellent work, my frrriend.
[20:37:01.606] Mewk Chorosap : Now, it's time to explain how to perrrform the activation.
[20:37:01.808] Mewk Chorosap : In order to activate the craftsman's crystal: bonecraft, you must firrrst imbue it with your craftsman's spirit to previously unimaginable levels.
[20:37:01.875] Mewk Chorosap : Using the regular methods, you'd need to craft with it several million times, but that isn't very rrrealistic, now is it?
[20:37:04.261] Mewk Chorosap : That is why I've crrreated a special device to help assist with the crafting process.
[20:37:04.330] Mewk Chorosap : Using this ‡²synthesis focuser‡³ during your crafting sessions will help boost your spirit and imbue it within your craftsman's crystal: bonecraft.
[20:37:05.963] Mewk Chorosap : You just need to simply flip the switch and begin crafting, although some prrreparations are necessary.
[20:37:06.059] Mewk Chorosap : You'll need to place the craftsman's crystal: bonecraft inside the synthesis focuser, along with the crystal, crafting sphere, and catalyst needed for the crafting process.
[20:37:06.126] Mewk Chorosap : For the crystal, please note that you cannot use the high-quality crystals or analysis crystals used for the engraving prrrocess.
[20:37:06.194] Mewk Chorosap : I'm going to place the craftsman's crystal: bonecraft within the synthesis focuser for now.
[20:37:06.261] Mewk Chorosap : Once the materials are set, you can begin the crafting process.
[20:37:06.329] Mewk Chorosap : If everything goes as planned, it will infuse your craftsman's crystal: bonecraft with a large amount of spirit. Once a sufficient amount has been trrransferred, it will activate the craftsman's crystal: bonecraft.
[20:37:07.143] Mewk Chorosap : Did you manage to comprrrehend all that? If so, then I shall continue...
[20:37:07.246] Mewk Chorosap : With this parrrticular kind of crafting, you're also able to form ‡²links‡³ while crafting!
[20:37:07.314] Mewk Chorosap : I like to call this type of link a ‡²craftchain‡³. I know... I know... It's nothing fancy. Mwahaha.
[20:37:07.382] Mewk Chorosap : You alrrready know about the skillchains that you use in battle. This is kind of like that.
[20:37:07.450] Mewk Chorosap : The skillchain is triggered when you select the appropriate weapon skills with the proper timing, right?
[20:37:07.520] Mewk Chorosap : A craftchain is triggered when you use the proper crafting sphere and catalyst, also with the proper timing.
[20:37:07.588] Mewk Chorosap : Once the craftchain is triggered, it will boost your spirit by an even greater amount. You really want to use them if at all possible.
[20:37:08.402] Mewk Chorosap : Now, allow me to explain about the crafting spheres that I mentioned prrreviously.
[20:37:08.506] Mewk Chorosap : Crafting spheres are a type of material that are intricately linked with crystals and craftchains.
[20:37:08.574] Mewk Chorosap : This'll prrrobably go faster if I just show you one.
[20:37:11.395] Mewk Chorosap : This is what we call a liquefaction sphere.
[20:37:13.469] Mewk Chorosap : And since Liquefaction includes a fire elemental, you will need to use a fire crystal.
[20:37:14.558] Mewk Chorosap : Be sure to keep one thing in mind. If you use a crystal that doesn't match the element, the synthesis is guaranteed to fail.
[20:37:14.625] Mewk Chorosap : There are 14 types of crafting sphere in all, the same number as the skillchains, with the exception of the Ultimate Skillchains of courrrse.
[20:37:14.693] Mewk Chorosap : However, you will need to learrrn the linking procedure for yourself.
[20:37:15.509] Mewk Chorosap : Now I will explain about the other material in the prrrocess...the catalyst.
[20:37:15.611] Mewk Chorosap : The catalyst is a material that has a grrreat effect on the success of your craftchain.
[20:37:15.681] Mewk Chorosap : You already know how skillchains have levels, rrright?
[20:37:15.747] Mewk Chorosap : Craftchains also have levels, and you will need to use a catalyst that matches the element of the crafting sphere.
[20:37:16.597] Mewk Chorosap : I have here an example of a catalyst. It comes from the Inventors' Coalition's verrry own MC-I-SR0 series!
[20:37:16.665] Mewk Chorosap : The linking process has thrrree levels, just like with skillchains. Depending on the crafting sphere you use, the catalyst will be selected automatically.
[20:37:18.774] Mewk Chorosap : Now I'd like to explain crafting failures in a bit more detail.
[20:37:18.841] Mewk Chorosap : If your combination of crystal, crafting sphere, and catalyst are incorrect, the synthesis is guarrranteed to fail.
[20:37:18.909] Mewk Chorosap : And if it fails, you will lose the crystal, crafting sphere, and catalyst you used.
[20:37:18.977] Mewk Chorosap : Additionally, you will also lose some of the spirit stored within your craftsman's crystal: bonecraft.
[20:37:19.045] Mewk Chorosap : There are some conditions for losing your ‡²spirit.‡³
[20:37:19.113] Mewk Chorosap : The Synthesis Focuser II will become unstable if certain things are done repeatedly.
[20:37:19.181] Mewk Chorosap : Those ‡²certain things‡³ are continuing to use the same crystal and continuing to do the same chain.
[20:37:19.249] Mewk Chorosap : If it remains unstable for too long, the Synthesis Focuser II may explode if or when the synthesis failures, meaning the you are more likely to lose some of your spirit.
[20:37:19.317] Mewk Chorosap : Stability is restored over time or by increasing the level of your chain.
[20:37:19.385] Mewk Chorosap : An explosion will also restore stability to the focuser, although I highly reccommend you do not take this route.
[20:37:19.453] Mewk Chorosap : The Stability gauge displays the focuser's current stability.
[20:37:19.523] Mewk Chorosap : That will mean much of your hard work will be for naught, so be especially carrreful when selecting your materials.
[20:37:20.338] Mewk Chorosap : I rrrealize this explanation is dragging on a bit, but how's it going? Try to hang in there for just a little bit longer.
[20:37:20.407] Mewk Chorosap : Now I want to explain how to obtain the materials you'll rrrequire.
[20:37:20.474] Mewk Chorosap : You can get the MC-I-SR0 series catalyst from me, for the rrright price of course...
[20:37:20.745] Mewk Chorosap : The cost of manufacturing is rather high for this particular catalyst, so I got an earful from the coalition's accountant after I made it in bulk.
[20:37:20.813] Mewk Chorosap : If I don't turn a profit, it will adversely affect our rrresearch budget... So, sorry about that. I hope you understand.
[20:37:22.925] Mewk Chorosap : The crafting spheres are a somewhat unique item. You can obtain them by using a special technique that brrreaks down certain items into their individual components.
[20:37:24.590] Mewk Chorosap : You'll need to learn the technique before you can prrroceed. This should be everything you need to master it.
[20:37:24.660] Mewk Chorosap : Mwahaha. You can have this one frrree of charge.
[20:37:26.731] Mewk Chorosap : Now, about the item to be used as a base for the technique...
[20:37:26.868] Mewk Chorosap : The chunk of bomb coal and the slab of Elshimo marble...
[20:37:26.937] Mewk Chorosap : You should be able to use the chunk of bomb coal with the lightning crystal, and the slab of Elshimo marble with the wind crystal for the prrrocedure.
[20:37:27.004] Mewk Chorosap : I believe there are more items out there that can be used. The exact number is unknown, but just consider finding them yet another part of the challenge.
[20:37:27.071] Mewk Chorosap : You can obtain information from other adventurers, or just keep experrrimenting until you find the answers for yourself.
[20:37:27.139] Mewk Chorosap : However, just be careful that you don't lose any valuable items in the process, even if it is in the name of prrrogress.
[20:37:27.821] Mewk Chorosap : I have a feeling that the items used to create the spheres contain some common factors. Of course, I have no evidence to back it up...
[20:37:29.418] Mewk Chorosap : That concludes my explanation. I imagine crrreating the spheres will keep you busy for some time to come. Good luck.
[20:37:43.426] Mikolulu : Ahh... So this is the one I've heard so much aboutaru...
[20:37:47.373] Mewk Chorosap : Oh, how long have you been here?
[20:37:49.584] Mikolulu : I justaru arrived.
[20:37:51.659] Mewk Chorosap : Mwahaha. Yes, I suppose so.
[20:37:51.862] Mewk Chorosap : Although, I was not expecting you to be the one to brrring me the synthesis focuser.
[20:37:54.116] Mikolulu : I have my reasons-weasons. It needed a few adjustments before delivery. I know you aren't very good at that sort of thing.
[20:37:56.188] Mewk Chorosap : Yes, I suppose you're rrright about that. I am much better at seeing the bigger picture.
[20:37:58.288] Mikolulu : By the way, were you able to properly explain the instructions to your guestaru?
[20:38:00.499] Mewk Chorosap : Of course I was.
[20:38:02.268] Mikolulu : Really? You often tend to leave out rather important details-wetails, so I'm sure you understand my concern.
[20:38:04.374] Mewk Chorosap : E-enough about that alrrready. If you just got here, does that mean you were in Mhaura?
[20:38:15.187] Mikolulu : Mhaura... I hear it's quite a bustling place, so I have some interestaru in it, but as long as she's there, I think I'll pass.
[20:38:23.007] Mikolulu : Besides, I had some minor business to attend to. I paid a visitaru to each of the three countries in the Middle Lands.
[20:38:23.075] Mikolulu : Of course, I made a pointaru to bring back some souvenirs for everybody in the coalition!
[20:38:25.389] Mikolulu : Look! I purchased-wurchased a Goblin doll and a copy of "Autumn's End in Gustaberg", along with a clump of Windurstian Tea leaves and a spicy cracker.
[20:38:28.789] Mikolulu : There's a set of Kaiserin Cosmetics and a Magicmart flyer... What's this thing again? I forgotaru...
[20:38:32.018] Mikolulu : Oh yes... This is a little-wittle trinket I picked up along the way. It's for you, Mewk.
[20:38:34.163] Mewk Chorosap : ...
[20:38:36.271] Mikolulu : There's also a lump of tama-hagane and a ceramic flowerpot...
[20:38:38.716] Mikolulu : And then... Oh!
[20:38:41.404] Mikolulu : I had better get going or else I won't make it in time to prepare for the nextaru investigation!
[20:38:41.467] Mikolulu : Sorry that I'm so busy rightaru now.
[20:38:44.324] Mikolulu : Well then, I'll waitaru until I hear from you again!
[20:38:50.821] Mewk Chorosap : A Magicmart flyer... I'm not exactly sure what I'm supposed to do with this prrresent...
[20:38:54.127] Mewk Chorosap : Hm? There's something wrrritten on the back.
[20:38:58.266] Obtained key item: Reassembling technique.
Would have spoiler tagged, but people have been saying they're broken/unreliable lately. She has some additional info when you talk to her, but it seems like it'll be a headache.
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2017-09-11 19:58:25
Ftr Spoilers break when people use equipsets on the same page. It has been that way for ages.
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By Sylph.Talym 2017-09-11 20:00:37
We got this ***instead of actual content?
God dammit SE.
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By Sylph.Funkworkz 2017-09-11 22:54:01
The rams are high level and always open with HP down, so have trusts out before engaging. They don't always spawn around the craig, Landon was at G-9.
By Kimmy78 2017-09-11 23:10:22
Can't trade Level 90 Relic +2 to the Porter Moogle with Storage Slip 13 - there has to be a bug
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By Quetzalcoatl.Tesseracta 2017-09-11 23:15:26
Can't trade Level 90 Relic +2 to the Porter Moogle with Storage Slip 13 - there has to be a bug https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Storage_Slip_13
Allows players to store Relic Armor +2 only if it has been augmented via Trial of the Magians.
That's probably why.
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