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Presidential address.
By Jassik 2015-12-06 23:14:31
My bad.
The last time that Obama spoke from the Oval Office was to announce the official end of US military involvement in Iraq in late 2010.
Some presidents address from the Oval Office regularly, some don't. Obama's done it 3 times, Reagan did it like 23, FDR did 33, and not all of them were even important addresses. He did the OSB address, the Ferguson riots address, and every other ISIS address outside the office. The location isn't particularly relevant and it sure doesn't make this topic any more worthwhile.
Recent presidents have not.. G.W.Bush only gave 6. In the 12yrs from G.Bush to Clinton they gave almost as much as Reagan did 2 a yr.. So from the First Bush to now 1.2 Oval office addresses a year. Still a far cry from dozens a year.
Oh, so because this address was from the Oval Office, it's more important than the other 10 addresses this year that weren't from there.
Sounds like you're grasping at straws to find a reason why this topic warrants a thread without admitting it's just because you wanted to say something and are banned from RPR.
Ok, whatever, enjoy your party.
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By Bismarck.Magnuss 2015-12-06 23:16:26
I once Skyped my brother while I was in the bathroom.
I should make a thread about that.
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By Davorin 2015-12-06 23:17:36
My bad.
The last time that Obama spoke from the Oval Office was to announce the official end of US military involvement in Iraq in late 2010.
Some presidents address from the Oval Office regularly, some don't. Obama's done it 3 times, Reagan did it like 23, FDR did 33, and not all of them were even important addresses. He did the OSB address, the Ferguson riots address, and every other ISIS address outside the office. The location isn't particularly relevant and it sure doesn't make this topic any more worthwhile.
Recent presidents have not.. G.W.Bush only gave 6. In the 12yrs from G.Bush to Clinton they gave almost as much as Reagan did 2 a yr.. So from the First Bush to now 1.2 Oval office addresses a year. Still a far cry from dozens a year.
Oh, so because this address was from the Oval Office, it's more important than the other 10 addresses this year that weren't from there.
Sounds like you're grasping at straws to find a reason why this topic warrants a thread without admitting it's just because you wanted to say something and are banned from RPR.
Ok, whatever, enjoy your party.
Ok, the guy makes shitty threads. Don't click on them. Would save us all from the attempted backseat modding anyway. Give it a rest.
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2015-12-06 23:18:09
I once Skyped my brother while I was in the bathroom.
I should make a thread about that.
Yes because that's something that actually happened and would be somewhat unique.
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2015-12-06 23:19:25
My bad.
The last time that Obama spoke from the Oval Office was to announce the official end of US military involvement in Iraq in late 2010.
Some presidents address from the Oval Office regularly, some don't. Obama's done it 3 times, Reagan did it like 23, FDR did 33, and not all of them were even important addresses. He did the OSB address, the Ferguson riots address, and every other ISIS address outside the office. The location isn't particularly relevant and it sure doesn't make this topic any more worthwhile.
Recent presidents have not.. G.W.Bush only gave 6. In the 12yrs from G.Bush to Clinton they gave almost as much as Reagan did 2 a yr.. So from the First Bush to now 1.2 Oval office addresses a year. Still a far cry from dozens a year.
Oh, so because this address was from the Oval Office, it's more important than the other 10 addresses this year that weren't from there.
Sounds like you're grasping at straws to find a reason why this topic warrants a thread without admitting it's just because you wanted to say something and are banned from RPR.
Ok, whatever, enjoy your party.
Ok, the guy makes shitty threads. Don't click on them. Would save us all from the attempted backseat modding anyway. Give it a rest.
Same thing right back at you. Hypocrtical much? If he had a point to actually make, he'd have made it with evidence, so far he's failed. People are just calling him out for proof because he's sprouting Tall Tales with no facts.
By Altimaomega 2015-12-06 23:22:54
And why can I not have an anti-obama thread? It's not in the forum rules anywhere, the 1st amendment is still intact.. last time I checked.
I don't believe that the 1st amendment actually has any ties to the Internet and by creating your character you agree to Terms and Conditions were you actually waive some rights to "Personal Freedoms" in the interests of other laws affiliated with the Internet.
Read the small print. You said he said something, and he didn't. You either mis heard, or are "Conspiracy Theorizing". pick one.
Neither, What he said in his speech does not conform to other statements he has made.
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2015-12-06 23:25:32
And why can I not have an anti-obama thread? It's not in the forum rules anywhere, the 1st amendment is still intact.. last time I checked.
I don't believe that the 1st amendment actually has any ties to the Internet and by creating your character you agree to Terms and Conditions were you actually waive some rights to "Personal Freedoms" in the interests of other laws affiliated with the Internet.
Read the small print. You said he said something, and he didn't. You either mis heard, or are "Conspiracy Theorizing". pick one.
Neither, What he said in his speech does not conform to other statements he has made.
Thanks for quoting my first point! You failed to answer it though.
So because his address isn't the same it means something? No its just done differently.
By Draylo 2015-12-06 23:27:54
I don't see the problem with making a thread for it, not like there's a ton of traffic on this site.
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2015-12-06 23:28:47
I don't see the problem with making a thread for it, not like there's a ton of traffic on this site.
Agreed, but there's nothing to actually discuss in the address, increase troops etc etc.
By Draylo 2015-12-06 23:30:10
Yeah it was pretty generic, nothing really interesting from it.
By Altimaomega 2015-12-06 23:31:30
I don't see the problem with making a thread for it, not like there's a ton of traffic on this site.
Agreed, but there's nothing to actually discuss in the address, increase troops etc etc.
Why do we need to increase troops, we ain't fighting a ground war?
Thanks for quoting my first point! You failed to answer it though.
Um.. the bold'd answers your question perfectly.
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2015-12-06 23:32:39
I don't see the problem with making a thread for it, not like there's a ton of traffic on this site.
Agreed, but there's nothing to actually discuss in the address, increase troops etc etc.
Why do we need to increase troops, we ain't fighting a ground war?
Oh sorry, I wasn't aware you were winning.
By Altimaomega 2015-12-06 23:33:44
I don't see the problem with making a thread for it, not like there's a ton of traffic on this site.
Agreed, but there's nothing to actually discuss in the address, increase troops etc etc.
Why do we need to increase troops, we ain't fighting a ground war?
Oh sorry, I wasn't aware you were winning.
Neither was I.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2015-12-06 23:33:56
I don't see the problem with making a thread for it, not like there's a ton of traffic on this site.
There is nothing wrong with making a discussion topic, but when the first sentence of the thread is a straight up lie, that sets the tone for the rest of the thread. Of course he is going to be called out on it, and of course he will fail to back it up, like he has. Then he cries about being harassed, like I said, cute.
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2015-12-06 23:34:45
I don't see the problem with making a thread for it, not like there's a ton of traffic on this site.
Agreed, but there's nothing to actually discuss in the address, increase troops etc etc.
Why do we need to increase troops, we ain't fighting a ground war?
Oh sorry, I wasn't aware you were winning.
Neither was I.
Oh by the way, no one said anything about increasing Ground Troops. Don't jump to assumptions like an idiot.
By Altimaomega 2015-12-06 23:37:55
I don't see the problem with making a thread for it, not like there's a ton of traffic on this site.
Agreed, but there's nothing to actually discuss in the address, increase troops etc etc.
Why do we need to increase troops, we ain't fighting a ground war?
Oh sorry, I wasn't aware you were winning.
Neither was I.
Oh by the way, no one said anything about increasing Ground Troops. Don't jump to assumptions like an idiot.
I didn't. You said it.. Then answered back when I asked about.. Then accuse me of assumptions..
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2015-12-06 23:39:24
I don't see the problem with making a thread for it, not like there's a ton of traffic on this site.
Agreed, but there's nothing to actually discuss in the address, increase troops etc etc.
Why do we need to increase troops, we ain't fighting a ground war?
Oh sorry, I wasn't aware you were winning.
Neither was I.
Oh by the way, no one said anything about increasing Ground Troops. Don't jump to assumptions like an idiot.
I didn't. You said it.. Then answered back when I asked about.. Then accuse me of assumptions..
I said increase in Troops, not Ground Troops, there's a semantic difference.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-12-06 23:43:42
This topic is fine for now. Stay on topic though. Discuss the issue(s) and not attack the poster.
By Altimaomega 2015-12-06 23:44:25
I don't see the problem with making a thread for it, not like there's a ton of traffic on this site.
Agreed, but there's nothing to actually discuss in the address, increase troops etc etc.
Why do we need to increase troops, we ain't fighting a ground war?
Oh sorry, I wasn't aware you were winning.
Neither was I.
Oh by the way, no one said anything about increasing Ground Troops. Don't jump to assumptions like an idiot.
I didn't. You said it.. Then answered back when I asked about.. Then accuse me of assumptions..
I said increase in Troops, not Ground Troops, there's a semantic difference.
You're right it is a difference. However, I said nothing about ground troops either. I dunno what your problem is.
Don't jump to assumptions
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2015-12-06 23:45:26
Sounds like he said the only way we can defeat Islamic terrorism in the USA is to welcome them with open arms.
We are still waiting for him to back up this made up claim.
By Altimaomega 2015-12-06 23:48:03
Sounds like he said the only way we can defeat Islamic terrorism in the USA is to welcome them with open arms.
We are still waiting for him to back up this made up claim.
It is my interpretation I claimed nothing. Don't like my views fine, it is a free country.
By Yatenkou 2015-12-06 23:48:51
I knew something like this was coming up. All of my nope
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By Artemicion 2015-12-06 23:49:05
Seemed pretty cut and dry to me.
Continue to bomb the ***out of ISIL with domestic and international efforts
Take preventive measures to avoid future domestic attacks
Don't hate or fear monger
Anything I miss?
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2015-12-06 23:49:09
In other words, running away.
By Altimaomega 2015-12-06 23:51:06
In other words, running away.
Not pandering to the likes of you is more like it.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-12-06 23:51:23
Most of the highlights I saw about this speech was a lot of nothing and more of it.
By Altimaomega 2015-12-06 23:59:25
Seemed pretty cut and dry to me.
Continue to bomb the ***out of ISIL with domestic and international efforts
Take preventive measures to avoid future domestic attacks
Don't hate or fear monger
Anything I miss?
Other than for the past few months Obama has said ISIS is contained and that they are no longer a threat. Then in this speech that was all somehow erased.
Nope, nothing at all, move along.
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By Artemicion 2015-12-07 00:05:06
Seemed pretty cut and dry to me.
Continue to bomb the ***out of ISIL with domestic and international efforts
Take preventive measures to avoid future domestic attacks
Don't hate or fear monger
Anything I miss?
Other than for the past few months Obama has said ISIS is contained and that they are no longer a threat. Then in this speech that was all somehow erased.
Nope, nothing at all, move along.
Citation? I honestly doubt he'd make a statement as definite and bold as that. Though it would be hilarious to have another "Mission Accomplished" moment.
If anything, he could say without too much hesitation that our continued airstrikes and international cooperation has significantly help rout ISIL and their leaders from taking measures on a larger or more organized scale.
Sounds like he said the only way we can defeat Islamic terrorism in the USA is to welcome them with open arms.
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Oh and I was unaware people on the terrorist watch list could walk right into a gun store and buy a gun. He also forgot to mention that California gun laws failed to stop this tragedy while he believes the entire USA needs more gun laws like California.
Not to mention we all know he does not take his intelligence briefing every morning.
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