First Official GOP President Announcement

I'm still crossing my fingers for Al Gore to announce probably not going to happen but it would be epic.

Lol jassik.... let us just stop.. this back and forth is great for adding pages, but it does nothing in the name of progress.

Long Live Gay rights, Down with Religious Freedom! burn burn burn!

At least you keep it mostly fun^^

I need to add jassik to my 'should not speak to' list.. Enuyasha is on my Favorite list...

Fonewear I would say you are above neutral but below Enuyasha^^ sorry^^

Without some of the users here it would be a constant *** fest ! The likes of which you've seen on Huff Post !

I see the problem here actually. Dipshits like you have no idea what religious freedom means.

What? We're all free to worship Jesus just like everyone else.

Remember when Jesus told his followers not to bake those homos cakes?

I think that was somewhere in the back of the bible...

Freedom of religion is important as are gay wedding cakes !

Long as the gay wedding cake isn't that vanilla *** !

Sexy cakes are even more important.

The main problem here is that a majority wants to extend their rights of being able to withhold service to being able to withhold services while getting paid to not provide services they accepted to give because they are religiously inclined to not agree with the occasion of which their paid services are required. It'll pass though. States can do whatever they want apparently unless it gets brought to a federal court. Even then, Hobby Lobby got away with some form of backwards precedent on the matter so itll get ruled A-OK to literally steal peoples money but not have to do anything youre contractually obligated to do.


Good Ole Murican Seperation of Church and State. And Like, Freedom of Religion and stuff (Even though, it doesnt mean what you think it does).

Fiorina likely GOP presidential candidate, attacks Clinton

Man, that has to burn. Who would have thought a GOP presidential candidate would hit Clinton so hard with such a devastating attack.

GOP Uses Slander.
Its not very effective.
The attack bounces back and hits GOP!
Its super effective.

"Her character is flawed."

"Oh no she didn't!"

So this popped up in my recommended YouTube videos. Warning it's Cenk Uygur.

If you are basing her attacks on Clinton by what the article says....

But then again, you have your head in the sand when it comes to anything against any liberal or democrat, so this is to be expected.

Speaking of devastating attacks, I see we've all become witnesses to another one of KB's witty remarks.

Now are you going to shut up or are you going to PROVE ME RIGHT EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

Prove you right in what? That you are a low-information forum poster?

I was actually making fun of something you said the other day. I'm probably asking too much of you, but I'm sure other people will remember.

That was weeks ago. Get with the times man!

So something very interesting about this Religious Freedom Restoration act...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_Freedom_Restoration_Act

The Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 1993, Pub. L. No. 103-141, 107 Stat. 1488 (November 16, 1993), codified at 42 U.S.C. § 2000bb through 42 U.S.C. § 2000bb-4 (also known as RFRA), is a 1993 United States federal law that "ensures that interests in religious freedom are protected."[1] The bill was introduced by Congressman Chuck Schumer (D-NY) on March 11, 1993 and passed by a unanimous U.S. House and a near unanimous U.S. Senate with three dissenting votes[2] and was signed into law by President Bill Clinton.

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=103&session=1&vote=00331

Alphabetical by Senator Name
Akaka (D-HI), Yea
Baucus (D-MT), Yea
Bennett (R-UT), Yea
Biden (D-DE), Yea
Bingaman (D-NM), Yea
Bond (R-MO), Yea
Boren (D-OK), Yea
Boxer (D-CA), Yea
Bradley (D-NJ), Yea
Breaux (D-LA), Yea
Brown (R-CO), Yea
Bryan (D-NV), Yea
Bumpers (D-AR), Yea
Burns (R-MT), Yea
Byrd (D-WV), Nay
Campbell (D-CO), Yea
Chafee (R-RI), Yea
Coats (R-IN), Yea
Cochran (R-MS), Yea
Cohen (R-ME), Yea
Conrad (D-ND), Yea
Coverdell (R-GA), Yea
Craig (R-ID), Yea
D'Amato (R-NY), Yea
Danforth (R-MO), Yea
Daschle (D-SD), Yea
DeConcini (D-AZ), Yea
Dodd (D-CT), Yea
Dole (R-KS), Yea
Domenici (R-NM), Yea
Dorgan (D-ND), Yea
Durenberger (R-MN), Yea
Exon (D-NE), Yea
Faircloth (R-NC), Yea
Feingold (D-WI), Yea
Feinstein (D-CA), Yea
Ford (D-KY), Yea
Glenn (D-OH), Yea
Gorton (R-WA), Yea
Graham (D-FL), Yea
Gramm (R-TX), Yea
Grassley (R-IA), Yea
Gregg (R-NH), Yea
Harkin (D-IA), Yea
Hatch (R-UT), Yea
Hatfield (R-OR), Yea
Heflin (D-AL), Yea
Helms (R-NC), Nay
Hollings (D-SC), Yea
Hutchison (R-TX), Yea
Inouye (D-HI), Yea
Jeffords (R-VT), Yea
Johnston (D-LA), Yea
Kassebaum (R-KS), Yea
Kempthorne (R-ID), Yea
Kennedy (D-MA), Yea
Kerrey (D-NE), Yea
Kerry (D-MA), Yea
Kohl (D-WI), Yea
Lautenberg (D-NJ), Yea
Leahy (D-VT), Yea
Levin (D-MI), Yea
Lieberman (D-CT), Yea
Lott (R-MS), Yea
Lugar (R-IN), Yea
Mack (R-FL), Yea
Mathews (D-TN), Nay
McCain (R-AZ), Yea
McConnell (R-KY), Yea
Metzenbaum (D-OH), Yea
Mikulski (D-MD), Yea
Mitchell (D-ME), Yea
Moseley-Braun (D-IL), Yea
Moynihan (D-NY), Yea
Murkowski (R-AK), Yea
Murray (D-WA), Yea
Nickles (R-OK), Yea
Nunn (D-GA), Yea
Packwood (R-OR), Yea
Pell (D-RI), Yea
Pressler (R-SD), Yea
Pryor (D-AR), Yea
Reid (D-NV), Yea
Riegle (D-MI), Yea
Robb (D-VA), Yea
Rockefeller (D-WV), Yea
Roth (R-DE), Yea
Sarbanes (D-MD), Yea
Sasser (D-TN), Yea
Shelby (D-AL), Yea
Simon (D-IL), Yea
Simpson (R-WY), Yea
Smith (R-NH), Yea
Specter (R-PA), Yea
Stevens (R-AK), Yea
Thurmond (R-SC), Yea
Wallop (R-WY), Yea
Warner (R-VA), Yea
Wellstone (D-MN), Yea
Wofford (D-PA), Yea


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Amazing the difference 20 years makes?
Bolded names are of special note.

I guess 20 years ago discriminating against Gay people was the hip thing to do?

Wow, I can't open a single P&R thread without people talking about gays.

*yawn*

RFRA's passage had nothing to do with LGBTs.

But its the same thing really as the Religious Freedom Law in Indiana.. whats the difference?

Oh I know.. that there have been news stories about cases where store owners were taken to court. The fact that there was news about this stuff... that is difference.

No, it is not the same. Have any of the conservatives here actually researched the law?

RFRA is crap too.

Law should not support, defend, or make concessions to religions, and they certainly should not have any form of protected status -- including financial -- endorsed or reinforced by the government.

Law should defend your right to believe what you desire; it should not defend the actions you take as a result of those beliefs, nor should it allow special status because of those beliefs.

Not to alarm you but "the gays" are multiplying at an alarming rate !