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By fonewear 2015-03-29 16:45:26
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I'm still crossing my fingers for Al Gore to announce probably not going to happen but it would be epic.
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By Zackan 2015-03-29 16:45:57
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Odin.Jassik said: »
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Again, this is freedom at the cost of another. For all your fights that LGBT should have all these rights... it all comes with people wanting religious views to be villified as an exchange.

This is the basis behind everything I have said. Why is the LGBT community more eligible to these rights than Religious ConservativeS?

How EXACTLY does LGBT being able to marry cost you any rights? Moreover, why does the lack of a law sanctioning discrimination cost you any right? Who is trying to vilify religious people when they aren't throwing things at women entering planned parenthood or forming activist groups when a high school accepts an openly gay kid onto their sports team?

Why is a bakery not wanting to bake a cake that actively promotes a Gay Marriage( a guy holding a guy, 'happy wedding 'guy name' and 'guy name') ANY different than a Lesbian exclusive t-shirt company refusing to make t-shirts for 'guy' and 'girl' bachelor party or wedding or something.

Because, t-shirt companies don't necessarily make custom prints and would never refuse to make a t-shirt that actively promotes heterosexual marriage. They just want to live their lives. Why can't you get that into your head, they don't want any special treatment or special rights, they just want you to mind your own business and stop pretending that their being treated as equals harms you in any tangible way and stop trying to pass laws that discriminate against them. You're so adamant about personal freedoms, so long as you get them and nobody else does.

Lol jassik.... let us just stop.. this back and forth is great for adding pages, but it does nothing in the name of progress.

Long Live Gay rights, Down with Religious Freedom! burn burn burn!
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By Zackan 2015-03-29 16:47:26
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fonewear said: »
I'm still crossing my fingers for Al Gore to announce probably not going to happen but it would be epic.

At least you keep it mostly fun^^

I need to add jassik to my 'should not speak to' list.. Enuyasha is on my Favorite list...

Fonewear I would say you are above neutral but below Enuyasha^^ sorry^^
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By fonewear 2015-03-29 16:54:35
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Without some of the users here it would be a constant *** fest ! The likes of which you've seen on Huff Post !
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2015-03-29 17:22:46
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I see the problem here actually. Dipshits like you have no idea what religious freedom means.
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By Bahamut.Omael 2015-03-29 17:34:31
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
I see the problem here actually. Dipshits like you have no idea what religious freedom means.

What? We're all free to worship Jesus just like everyone else.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2015-03-29 17:36:11
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Remember when Jesus told his followers not to bake those homos cakes?
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By Bahamut.Omael 2015-03-29 17:38:08
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I think that was somewhere in the back of the bible...
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By fonewear 2015-03-29 17:42:10
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Freedom of religion is important as are gay wedding cakes !
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By fonewear 2015-03-29 17:44:58
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Long as the gay wedding cake isn't that vanilla *** !
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By Bahamut.Omael 2015-03-29 17:45:28
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Sexy cakes are even more important.

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By Enuyasha 2015-03-29 17:47:07
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The main problem here is that a majority wants to extend their rights of being able to withhold service to being able to withhold services while getting paid to not provide services they accepted to give because they are religiously inclined to not agree with the occasion of which their paid services are required. It'll pass though. States can do whatever they want apparently unless it gets brought to a federal court. Even then, Hobby Lobby got away with some form of backwards precedent on the matter so itll get ruled A-OK to literally steal peoples money but not have to do anything youre contractually obligated to do.


Good Ole Murican Seperation of Church and State. And Like, Freedom of Religion and stuff (Even though, it doesnt mean what you think it does).
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-03-29 18:40:57
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Quote:
Former technology executive Carly Fiorina says she is more than 90 percent likely to seek the Republican presidential nomination. And she is questioning the confidence people can have in likely Democratic contender Hillary Rodham Clinton.

On "Fox News Sunday," Fiorina challenged several Clinton comments, including saying she used a personal email account for State Department work because it would be easier to carry one device than two. She said such statements raise a confidence issue about the former secretary of state, senator and first lady.

Fiorina also said Clinton is not candid. She said that "suggests her character is flawed."

Fiorina, who has attacked Clinton before, is former CEO of the Hewlett-Packard Co. She lost a 2010 California race for the U.S. Senate.
Fiorina likely GOP presidential candidate, attacks Clinton
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2015-03-29 19:04:00
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Man, that has to burn. Who would have thought a GOP presidential candidate would hit Clinton so hard with such a devastating attack.
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By Enuyasha 2015-03-29 20:05:59
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Bismarck.Ihina said: »
Man, that has to burn. Who would have thought a GOP presidential candidate would hit Clinton so hard with such a devastating attack.
GOP Uses Slander.
Its not very effective.
The attack bounces back and hits GOP!
Its super effective.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-03-29 20:57:43
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"Her character is flawed."

"Oh no she didn't!"
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-03-30 05:36:05
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So this popped up in my recommended YouTube videos. Warning it's Cenk Uygur.

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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-03-30 06:48:04
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Bismarck.Ihina said: »
Man, that has to burn. Who would have thought a GOP presidential candidate would hit Clinton so hard with such a devastating attack.
If you are basing her attacks on Clinton by what the article says....

But then again, you have your head in the sand when it comes to anything against any liberal or democrat, so this is to be expected.
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2015-03-30 07:08:52
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Speaking of devastating attacks, I see we've all become witnesses to another one of KB's witty remarks.

Now are you going to shut up or are you going to PROVE ME RIGHT EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-03-30 07:14:22
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Prove you right in what? That you are a low-information forum poster?
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2015-03-30 07:20:34
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I was actually making fun of something you said the other day. I'm probably asking too much of you, but I'm sure other people will remember.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-03-30 07:27:28
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That was weeks ago. Get with the times man!
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By Zackan 2015-03-31 11:11:11
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So something very interesting about this Religious Freedom Restoration act...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_Freedom_Restoration_Act

The Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 1993, Pub. L. No. 103-141, 107 Stat. 1488 (November 16, 1993), codified at 42 U.S.C. § 2000bb through 42 U.S.C. § 2000bb-4 (also known as RFRA), is a 1993 United States federal law that "ensures that interests in religious freedom are protected."[1] The bill was introduced by Congressman Chuck Schumer (D-NY) on March 11, 1993 and passed by a unanimous U.S. House and a near unanimous U.S. Senate with three dissenting votes[2] and was signed into law by President Bill Clinton.

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=103&session=1&vote=00331

Alphabetical by Senator Name
Akaka (D-HI), Yea
Baucus (D-MT), Yea
Bennett (R-UT), Yea
Biden (D-DE), Yea
Bingaman (D-NM), Yea
Bond (R-MO), Yea
Boren (D-OK), Yea
Boxer (D-CA), Yea
Bradley (D-NJ), Yea
Breaux (D-LA), Yea
Brown (R-CO), Yea
Bryan (D-NV), Yea
Bumpers (D-AR), Yea
Burns (R-MT), Yea
Byrd (D-WV), Nay
Campbell (D-CO), Yea
Chafee (R-RI), Yea
Coats (R-IN), Yea
Cochran (R-MS), Yea
Cohen (R-ME), Yea
Conrad (D-ND), Yea
Coverdell (R-GA), Yea
Craig (R-ID), Yea
D'Amato (R-NY), Yea
Danforth (R-MO), Yea
Daschle (D-SD), Yea
DeConcini (D-AZ), Yea
Dodd (D-CT), Yea
Dole (R-KS), Yea
Domenici (R-NM), Yea
Dorgan (D-ND), Yea
Durenberger (R-MN), Yea
Exon (D-NE), Yea
Faircloth (R-NC), Yea
Feingold (D-WI), Yea
Feinstein (D-CA), Yea
Ford (D-KY), Yea
Glenn (D-OH), Yea
Gorton (R-WA), Yea
Graham (D-FL), Yea
Gramm (R-TX), Yea
Grassley (R-IA), Yea
Gregg (R-NH), Yea
Harkin (D-IA), Yea
Hatch (R-UT), Yea
Hatfield (R-OR), Yea
Heflin (D-AL), Yea
Helms (R-NC), Nay
Hollings (D-SC), Yea
Hutchison (R-TX), Yea
Inouye (D-HI), Yea
Jeffords (R-VT), Yea
Johnston (D-LA), Yea
Kassebaum (R-KS), Yea
Kempthorne (R-ID), Yea
Kennedy (D-MA), Yea
Kerrey (D-NE), Yea
Kerry (D-MA), Yea
Kohl (D-WI), Yea
Lautenberg (D-NJ), Yea
Leahy (D-VT), Yea
Levin (D-MI), Yea
Lieberman (D-CT), Yea
Lott (R-MS), Yea
Lugar (R-IN), Yea
Mack (R-FL), Yea
Mathews (D-TN), Nay
McCain (R-AZ), Yea
McConnell (R-KY), Yea
Metzenbaum (D-OH), Yea
Mikulski (D-MD), Yea
Mitchell (D-ME), Yea
Moseley-Braun (D-IL), Yea
Moynihan (D-NY), Yea
Murkowski (R-AK), Yea
Murray (D-WA), Yea
Nickles (R-OK), Yea
Nunn (D-GA), Yea
Packwood (R-OR), Yea
Pell (D-RI), Yea
Pressler (R-SD), Yea
Pryor (D-AR), Yea
Reid (D-NV), Yea
Riegle (D-MI), Yea
Robb (D-VA), Yea
Rockefeller (D-WV), Yea
Roth (R-DE), Yea
Sarbanes (D-MD), Yea
Sasser (D-TN), Yea
Shelby (D-AL), Yea
Simon (D-IL), Yea
Simpson (R-WY), Yea
Smith (R-NH), Yea
Specter (R-PA), Yea
Stevens (R-AK), Yea
Thurmond (R-SC), Yea
Wallop (R-WY), Yea
Warner (R-VA), Yea
Wellstone (D-MN), Yea
Wofford (D-PA), Yea


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Amazing the difference 20 years makes?
Bolded names are of special note.

I guess 20 years ago discriminating against Gay people was the hip thing to do?
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-03-31 11:22:42
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Wow, I can't open a single P&R thread without people talking about gays.

*yawn*
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2015-03-31 11:23:15
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RFRA's passage had nothing to do with LGBTs.
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By Zackan 2015-03-31 11:31:15
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RFRA's passage had nothing to do with LGBTs.


But its the same thing really as the Religious Freedom Law in Indiana.. whats the difference?

Oh I know.. that there have been news stories about cases where store owners were taken to court. The fact that there was news about this stuff... that is difference.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2015-03-31 11:31:57
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No, it is not the same. Have any of the conservatives here actually researched the law?
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-03-31 11:34:24
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Zackan said: »
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RFRA's passage had nothing to do with LGBTs.


But its the same thing really as the Religious Freedom Law in Indiana.. whats the difference?

Oh I know.. that there have been news stories about cases where store owners were taken to court. The fact that there was news about this stuff... that is difference.

RFRA is crap too.

Law should not support, defend, or make concessions to religions, and they certainly should not have any form of protected status -- including financial -- endorsed or reinforced by the government.

Law should defend your right to believe what you desire; it should not defend the actions you take as a result of those beliefs, nor should it allow special status because of those beliefs.
 
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By fonewear 2015-03-31 11:34:50
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Wow, I can't open a single P&R thread without people talking about gays.

*yawn*

Not to alarm you but "the gays" are multiplying at an alarming rate !
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