You know the next stage of grief is anger after denial, se stated the updates were done, that's no more content, no more missions, no more gear after November.
Sure feel free to keep playing and giving them money but don't be coming out with the "they may still update crap" they had a freaking press confrence to state otherwise.
Then it was even translated into English for us within record time.
So what more do you need to get it ? The game might not die in November obviously it won't but the player base will dwindle and dwindle after that date due to no more content.
Deal with it, because I have and before you start calling me a hater again, i'm logged into game now I just don't live in denial.
2015 FFXI's Live Event Summary/Discussion
2015 FFXI's Live Event Summary/Discussion
Basically all these updates added a more user friendly game experience for the new iphone player base they hope to entice and sell FFXI to that don't demand updates. Effectively turning FFXI into a psuedo offline FF game where updates do not exist to prolong it's lifespan. So instead of porting to Next Gen to rejuvenate the player base on servers they elected to dump it completely officially killing it off but heres your Unlockables you earned in FFXI to improve your FINAL FANTASY GRANDMASTERS experience. Awesome!
Draylo said: »
I'll be enjoying the time we have and hoping something comes after. I play this like it is, a game. As far as the people who are doing their victory dance, I wouldn't bother caring about them as they are pathetic. I went to a FFXIV fanfest and as I look at those people I understand what some of these posters are like in RL lol. The same srubs that have sat here for ages hoping this game would die and harassing the people that still play are the ones that lose out. We all have our memories of this game and still there are some to come so enjoy them for all you can.
How many fat people did you see, Draylo !?
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No new content as FFXI exists today is how I read it. Dropping PS2 and 360, then overhauling the UI, and then porting to mobile will not be the same existence. There may be new content in the future in that regard and nothing is set in stone. It may be a different story entirely when we get to that point in time.
We all heard all this doomsday rhetoric before. ToAU was the end, WotG was the end, level cap would never be increased and now where are we? Another expansion, not only lv99 but i119, and several years later were being refitted for more mainstream devices and continuing forward.
When the end comes, it comes. I'm not rooting for it either way but I would hate to see it come. FFXI has been awesome. I will continue to be a loyal adventurer until the day does come though.
We all heard all this doomsday rhetoric before. ToAU was the end, WotG was the end, level cap would never be increased and now where are we? Another expansion, not only lv99 but i119, and several years later were being refitted for more mainstream devices and continuing forward.
When the end comes, it comes. I'm not rooting for it either way but I would hate to see it come. FFXI has been awesome. I will continue to be a loyal adventurer until the day does come though.
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Lakshmi.Amymy said: »
Siren.Bruno said: »
Trying to be the optimistic one here:
Sky came out in 2003. Didn't people do that until 2010 when Abyssea and everything following it came out? Eventually this obsoleted a bit of its gear overtime and made it easier with the cap increase, so people didn't need to do it anymore, or at least didn't need a linkshell or large group for it.
That was 7 years, and that's just from one division of content. Of course, I know we didn't thrive on just Sky alone, there was other things. I've enjoyed the game and all of its content post-2010, but if new endgame didn't come out, isn't the general consensus of most that we would have been better off without updates adding content? But you see here now, for some reason, people feel differently, and disappointed that addition of content, for the foreseeable future, will be stopping in November. How long would people have actually continued on doing Sky, or "golden age" content, if the game didn't get new stuff in 2010?
Wishful thinking, but if they could do something with adding content in a similar manner to older stuff like Sky and such, this could go really well. I'm not saying they should clone Sky specifically, but if you can implement something with similar longevity and life, many would be happy. Not just one realm of endgame, but multiple differing varieties of content as we've enjoyed now and before.
I feel like some people are looking at this the wrong way, and I can see why, given how fast you can plow through some modern day endgame, in comparison to what we had in the past. The common fear seems to be that what we get only lasts us a month or two, as recent years of history dictate. It's within the realm of possibility that they could pull this off correctly and with lasting durability, though.
Sky came out in 2003. Didn't people do that until 2010 when Abyssea and everything following it came out? Eventually this obsoleted a bit of its gear overtime and made it easier with the cap increase, so people didn't need to do it anymore, or at least didn't need a linkshell or large group for it.
That was 7 years, and that's just from one division of content. Of course, I know we didn't thrive on just Sky alone, there was other things. I've enjoyed the game and all of its content post-2010, but if new endgame didn't come out, isn't the general consensus of most that we would have been better off without updates adding content? But you see here now, for some reason, people feel differently, and disappointed that addition of content, for the foreseeable future, will be stopping in November. How long would people have actually continued on doing Sky, or "golden age" content, if the game didn't get new stuff in 2010?
Wishful thinking, but if they could do something with adding content in a similar manner to older stuff like Sky and such, this could go really well. I'm not saying they should clone Sky specifically, but if you can implement something with similar longevity and life, many would be happy. Not just one realm of endgame, but multiple differing varieties of content as we've enjoyed now and before.
I feel like some people are looking at this the wrong way, and I can see why, given how fast you can plow through some modern day endgame, in comparison to what we had in the past. The common fear seems to be that what we get only lasts us a month or two, as recent years of history dictate. It's within the realm of possibility that they could pull this off correctly and with lasting durability, though.
People are too spoiled. Given them new updates every month then they rage when they stopped the updates. When delve came out how long did people got all 3 wins? I think it took me 3-5 months to get tojil clear and all 3 like 7 months (I really forgot). Maybe this new final update will take us 3-7 months to clear as well? Then after that it's anyone's guess.
Better example. A hot guy/girl will go out with you for a year and after that he's leaving forever. Take it or leave it?
Wouldn't really compare Delve to a "grand climax scenario." Of course, I'm comparing it to Sky, too. The only difference is one is very more widely accepted than the other.
Taking into account people who are reactivating after leaving initially for this reason, I'm guessing the bulk of the player base that exists in November would be thrilled to have endgame styled in a path similar to golden era content. I'm all for adding something similar to Sky or Sea, in addition to a variety of plenty of other things , for a "grand climax" that lasts. I'm sure many others would love it too.
In summary:
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Asura.Daleterrence said: »
I don't know why, but I feel this is appropiate.
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lmfao, Matsui and SE's CEO doin' the Is-over,-bishes dance
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Bismarck.Snprphnx said: »
Asura.Vinedrius said: »
Siren.Kuz said: »
Asura.Vinedrius said: »
They copied races, including beastmen and a whole bunch of monster models, that is worse than copying ideas. FFXIV is a box full fan service eye candies. When I watch my bro playing it, all I am seeing is a big mess of HD remakes of character and monster designs from previous titles.
Best open an account now and get started! I heard FFXI is shutting down!
Nah, I would rather sub to WoW, at least Blizzard appears to know what they are doing with their most popular franchise (don't worry, I won't)
When the last update comes out, SE will advertise the hell out it, trying to sell Ultimate editions. With each sale, you get a character on any server. All subs to 49, three jobs to 99, all skills capped, all job points capped, full sets of 119 AF, Relic, and Emp gear. 5 stacks of mog pells, redeemable for any accessories, and your choice of 1 lvl 75 RME weapon. Isn't that what Blizzard does?
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So no server merges or reduced prices for subscriptions or anything I was expecting. /sigh but this is SE so I should be used to dashed hopes.
That being said, hearing that FFXI is basically finished after November, my feelings are kinda mixed. On one hand, I'm sad to see it go since I've been playing the game since 2005. On the other hand, I'm kinda glad FFXI is in a sense ending. Sure, servers will be probably still be open after November but without any new content or expansions, etc I doubt I'd be hanging around (granted I don't play anymore now anyway) and the last lingering addiction to FFXI will cease as well. No point in playing/paying for a game that won't have anything new post November.
The final scenarios thing seems interesting so I "might" return near the end of the year to finish it, then I'll bid farewell to my character (I'll miss him) and unsub for the last time and won't look back.
On a side note, if SE decides to keep FFXI open post November (despite them not doing anymore "major" updates and just doing minor bug fixes and balance issues) it makes me wonder if they'll make it F2P. They might as well since, who in their right mind would waste money every month on a game that doesn't offer any new gameplay content, equipment, etc?
A F2P post November FFXI would be the better move to make since I'm sure a lot of the player base will be dwindling down to nothing anyway. I wouldn't pay $12.95 a month for FFXI after November, just doesn't seem worth it and a waste of money.
I'll miss Vana'diel, but like a fine glass of wine, it ends eventually.
That being said, hearing that FFXI is basically finished after November, my feelings are kinda mixed. On one hand, I'm sad to see it go since I've been playing the game since 2005. On the other hand, I'm kinda glad FFXI is in a sense ending. Sure, servers will be probably still be open after November but without any new content or expansions, etc I doubt I'd be hanging around (granted I don't play anymore now anyway) and the last lingering addiction to FFXI will cease as well. No point in playing/paying for a game that won't have anything new post November.
The final scenarios thing seems interesting so I "might" return near the end of the year to finish it, then I'll bid farewell to my character (I'll miss him) and unsub for the last time and won't look back.
On a side note, if SE decides to keep FFXI open post November (despite them not doing anymore "major" updates and just doing minor bug fixes and balance issues) it makes me wonder if they'll make it F2P. They might as well since, who in their right mind would waste money every month on a game that doesn't offer any new gameplay content, equipment, etc?
A F2P post November FFXI would be the better move to make since I'm sure a lot of the player base will be dwindling down to nothing anyway. I wouldn't pay $12.95 a month for FFXI after November, just doesn't seem worth it and a waste of money.
I'll miss Vana'diel, but like a fine glass of wine, it ends eventually.
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protectorchrono said: »
it makes me wonder if they'll make it F2P. They might as well since, who in their right mind would waste money every month on a game that doesn't offer any new gameplay content, equipment, etc?
People that have fun playing the game and are content with that?
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That mobile game is like the countless stamina/time-based/card collected asynchronous "multi player" phone games in existence. It is about as "multi player" as having a contacts list who you "team up" with to complete a zone.
(Look up Brave Frontier).
I don't see how it will have anything to do with FFXI windows client as far as sharing part of the same name and "theme".
I feel like SE's biggest crime is how they handle information. This whole event is more confusing than it is disheartening because I really don't see what the cause for alarm is.
Two of the signs are very positive:
Dropping dilapidated consoles.
Teaming up with one of the most successful MMO publishers in the modern era.
If they wanted to pull the plug they simply would, all of this seems to be setting the stage for a large transition.
What does "major" mean? Does that apply to zone/story/expansion development?
Does adding equipment even fall under "major"?
Does adding spells/abilities fall under "major"?'
Does tweaking stats on armor/abilities/jobs fall under "major"?
Probably #1, most likely nothing else.
I hope they put out all the content they want to, sell the game, then move the *** out of the way. SE should stick to single player games and collect the royalties off this fat cash cow going to market.
(Look up Brave Frontier).
I don't see how it will have anything to do with FFXI windows client as far as sharing part of the same name and "theme".
I feel like SE's biggest crime is how they handle information. This whole event is more confusing than it is disheartening because I really don't see what the cause for alarm is.
Two of the signs are very positive:
Dropping dilapidated consoles.
Teaming up with one of the most successful MMO publishers in the modern era.
If they wanted to pull the plug they simply would, all of this seems to be setting the stage for a large transition.
What does "major" mean? Does that apply to zone/story/expansion development?
Does adding equipment even fall under "major"?
Does adding spells/abilities fall under "major"?'
Does tweaking stats on armor/abilities/jobs fall under "major"?
Probably #1, most likely nothing else.
I hope they put out all the content they want to, sell the game, then move the *** out of the way. SE should stick to single player games and collect the royalties off this fat cash cow going to market.
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I have to say, SE has made it very tough for new players these days. I cant remember the last time I saw someone yelling for help with a limit break quest. And you can hardly blame anyone for not joining FFXI from scratch. For example, Job point parties have almost completely replaced the need for Abyssea exp parties. If you need limit points for high tier BCNMs, you mind as well do a job point party or incursion since you get job points while you're getting limit points. This creates a huge problem for leveling new jobs/characters, since most of the 99 level characters in need of limit points aren't joining abyssea parties.
As for the news of no new content once November rolls around, only time will tell how relevant and populated the game will still be. Being optimistic, SE could change their minds if populations don't dwindle as they expect.
As for the news of no new content once November rolls around, only time will tell how relevant and populated the game will still be. Being optimistic, SE could change their minds if populations don't dwindle as they expect.
Yeah, Tanaka and Uematsu. I should have fixed that too :p He isn't CEO, but an amazing composer.
Leviathan.Tribalprophet said: »
protectorchrono said: »
it makes me wonder if they'll make it F2P. They might as well since, who in their right mind would waste money every month on a game that doesn't offer any new gameplay content, equipment, etc?
People that have fun playing the game and are content with that?
I'm just saying, paying for it after November just seems like a waste of money especially since nothing new will be added so it's basically rehashing old stuff over and over again til you get bored and nothing else new will be added to the game. No expansions, probably no more add-ons after the final ones later this year and no server merges, so if your server don't have a lot of people on it already then it would be pretty hard to find people to join stuff especially if most of the player base won't stick around.
I love FFXI, but personally, I wouldn't waste my money after November since you won't really be getting any bang for your buck outside of pure nostalgia or some desire to complete everything, but why waste $12+ (if you have mules) dollars for that? Just makes no sense to me. I mean that wasted money could go towards something you'd want or need. That's why SE should make FFXI F2P after November for anyone who still wants hang around afterwards.
That's My opinion and my two cents, but well if you guys wanna waste your cash after November then by all means go for it.
Siren.Bruno said: »
Trying to be the optimistic one here:
Sky came out in 2003. Didn't people do that until 2010 when Abyssea and everything following it came out? Eventually this obsoleted a bit of its gear overtime and made it easier with the cap increase, so people didn't need to do it anymore, or at least didn't need a linkshell or large group for it.
That was 7 years, and that's just from one division of content. Of course, I know we didn't thrive on just Sky alone, there was other things. I've enjoyed the game and all of its content post-2010, but if new endgame didn't come out, isn't the general consensus of most that we would have been better off without updates adding content? But you see here now, for some reason, people feel differently, and disappointed that addition of content, for the foreseeable future, will be stopping in November. How long would people have actually continued on doing Sky, or "golden age" content, if the game didn't get new stuff in 2010?
Wishful thinking, but if they could do something with adding content in a similar manner to older stuff like Sky and such, this could go really well. I'm not saying they should clone Sky specifically, but if you can implement something with similar longevity and life, many would be happy. Not just one realm of endgame, but multiple differing varieties of content as we've enjoyed now and before.
I feel like some people are looking at this the wrong way, and I can see why, given how fast you can plow through some modern day endgame, in comparison to what we had in the past. The common fear seems to be that what we get only lasts us a month or two, as recent years of history dictate. It's within the realm of possibility that they could pull this off correctly and with lasting durability, though.
Sky came out in 2003. Didn't people do that until 2010 when Abyssea and everything following it came out? Eventually this obsoleted a bit of its gear overtime and made it easier with the cap increase, so people didn't need to do it anymore, or at least didn't need a linkshell or large group for it.
That was 7 years, and that's just from one division of content. Of course, I know we didn't thrive on just Sky alone, there was other things. I've enjoyed the game and all of its content post-2010, but if new endgame didn't come out, isn't the general consensus of most that we would have been better off without updates adding content? But you see here now, for some reason, people feel differently, and disappointed that addition of content, for the foreseeable future, will be stopping in November. How long would people have actually continued on doing Sky, or "golden age" content, if the game didn't get new stuff in 2010?
Wishful thinking, but if they could do something with adding content in a similar manner to older stuff like Sky and such, this could go really well. I'm not saying they should clone Sky specifically, but if you can implement something with similar longevity and life, many would be happy. Not just one realm of endgame, but multiple differing varieties of content as we've enjoyed now and before.
I feel like some people are looking at this the wrong way, and I can see why, given how fast you can plow through some modern day endgame, in comparison to what we had in the past. The common fear seems to be that what we get only lasts us a month or two, as recent years of history dictate. It's within the realm of possibility that they could pull this off correctly and with lasting durability, though.
I like your point of view also, hell the way I see it I can take the time to get caught up on some stuff I have fallen far on. FFXI chill mode till we can see where this goes.
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This is going to be my last post in this topic so don't bother replying to me because im simply not going to check it again, so pm me if anything as i've already had a few lol.
The best thing to come out of this is the people who used to insult Draylo for his white knighting off ffxi. A lot of people have gone above and beyond anything what Draylo said or did on this forum and over at bg.
The meltdown has been far more than I expected but then again some of you are the same morons who go nuts if you can't log in for a few hours.
Just remember it is only a game, everything including your life comes to an end make the most of the next few months and i'm sure most of you will end up in 14 regardless of what you say right now, likewise i'm sure a few sados will keep plugging away at a game with no new content coming in to grind out all those mythics.
Now i'm done with this thread and this topic.
The best thing to come out of this is the people who used to insult Draylo for his white knighting off ffxi. A lot of people have gone above and beyond anything what Draylo said or did on this forum and over at bg.
The meltdown has been far more than I expected but then again some of you are the same morons who go nuts if you can't log in for a few hours.
Just remember it is only a game, everything including your life comes to an end make the most of the next few months and i'm sure most of you will end up in 14 regardless of what you say right now, likewise i'm sure a few sados will keep plugging away at a game with no new content coming in to grind out all those mythics.
Now i'm done with this thread and this topic.
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I light a candle today in front of my copy of FFXI it seems fitting !
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If they're ending support then they need to "open the floodgates" and start adding new JA, new spells, basically everything they've wanted to add but were restricted by consoles. If we're getting a last hurrah, then i want my wyvern to grow, i want blms getting Ultima(like embrava; can only cast during manafont), new job point weapon skills, new mob types etc.
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This thread/FFXIAH will last longer than the game !
I feel outraged my childhood game is coming to an end. In protest I'm going to record and burn my Brady guide, XI, ROTZ, COP, TOAU and WOTG in one gigantic bonfire as fitting music plays in the background.
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You can buy a used copy of the guide for 35 cents stock up on them as they will be collectors items !
http://www.amazon.com/Fantasy-Official-Strategy-Spring-Version/dp/0744003687/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1426866357&sr=8-3&keywords=ffxi+book
http://www.amazon.com/Fantasy-Official-Strategy-Spring-Version/dp/0744003687/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1426866357&sr=8-3&keywords=ffxi+book
$0.35
+ $3.99 shipping
Used - Acceptable
Former Library book. Shows definite wear, and perhaps considerable marking on inside. 100% Money Back Guarantee.
Someone sharpied out all the great advice about subbing BLM on DRK for more EPIC MAGIC DAMAGE.
+ $3.99 shipping
Used - Acceptable
Former Library book. Shows definite wear, and perhaps considerable marking on inside. 100% Money Back Guarantee.
Someone sharpied out all the great advice about subbing BLM on DRK for more EPIC MAGIC DAMAGE.
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What about MNK/WHM perfect for soloing up to 75 !
There's so much I wanted to do in this game from my bucket list. Little things that don't really matter like garrisons and stuff. I just wish I had the time to get lost in this game again. Back in the glory days, I was a teen with no responsibilities. It was just so easy to get lost in this game and I miss it dearly. It'll be a sad day when this game is put to rest.
Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai said: »
Draylo said: »
I'll be enjoying the time we have and hoping something comes after. I play this like it is, a game. As far as the people who are doing their victory dance, I wouldn't bother caring about them as they are pathetic. I went to a FFXIV fanfest and as I look at those people I understand what some of these posters are like in RL lol. The same srubs that have sat here for ages hoping this game would die and harassing the people that still play are the ones that lose out. We all have our memories of this game and still there are some to come so enjoy them for all you can.
How many fat people did you see, Draylo !?
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Rumor has it SE is going to play the Doors this is the end as the servers go offline !
Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
I think the mobile client could actually work if they can make a playable UI. It wouldn't be receiving content updates anymore, but it has over a decade of content that is mostly soloable with Trusts now. Phone games are shitty and superficial. FFXI has a decade of depth just in terms of story, which instantly puts it at the front of the field as long as it's reasonably playable. Add on that there's an MMO component and you potentially have a winner.
In order to be successful they need to:
1) Make a simplified (possibly customizable) mobile UI that doesn't suck
2) Bundle the PC version of FFXI with the mobile version
3) Reduce monthly prices. Nobody is going to pay $14/mo for a phone game.
In order to be successful they need to:
1) Make a simplified (possibly customizable) mobile UI that doesn't suck
2) Bundle the PC version of FFXI with the mobile version
3) Reduce monthly prices. Nobody is going to pay $14/mo for a phone game.
I actually took it to mean that after November they are ceasing planning for any major updates and only doing minor bug fixes / balancing as they will be focusing their resources on the mobile platform. Once the mobile platform is out they will likely be focusing on stabilizing and ironing out any issues that arise for another three to six months. After all that is done, then they can return to creating whatever content they think will get more profit.
Essentially SE isn't able to really plan long term until after the mobile platform is out and seeing how that's received. I highly doubt a doom and gloom scenario will happen, it's too much profit to walk away from, I expect them to clear a few things up in the near future.
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