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 Leviathan.Protey
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By Leviathan.Protey 2016-02-09 23:16:20
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Odin.Blazeoffury said: »
Does the update go live after maintenance?

No, this maintenance is for resetting Login Campaign. There will be an update tomorrow.
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By Shiva.Siviard 2016-02-09 23:16:58
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Incoming massive price spike on Pluton/Beitetsu/Riftborn Boulder

Many people called it, including myself. Glad I hoarded a bunch of them on multiple mules!
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By Asura.Lanselot 2016-02-09 23:17:22
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Bismarck.Nickeny said: »
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Its 2016, will new plds please stop complaining about having to make aegis, for what aegis does its worth the time to make. Ppl need to learn to be more efficient with their playtime. Tip gear thf and farm dyna its stupid easy.


Aegis or bust shouldn't be the answer. There should be some type of middle ground.

I'm not sure that not having aegis is as big of a bust as you think it is. Yes, for reisenjima you're going to want aegis but that's endgame. I'm pretty sure (although I haven't done it yet) that I can tank all other content without it. I tanked Vir'ava tonight with adamas on and full mdt and meteor was only doing like 500 dmg. I would argue that pld meta can be changed more to what 14 has in that if the move isn't going to one shot you then really its all about having enough hp to survive.
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By Draylo 2016-02-09 23:18:36
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Leviathan.Protey said: »
Odin.Blazeoffury said: »
Does the update go live after maintenance?

No, this maintenance is for resetting Login Campaign. There will be an update tomorrow.

Incorrect pro
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By Fenrir.Ramzus 2016-02-09 23:18:44
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Fenrir.Ramzus said: »
inb4 10,000 pluton/beitetsu/riftborn needed for upgrade

in after.
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By Odin.Geriond 2016-02-09 23:19:24
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Leviathan.Protey said: »
Odin.Blazeoffury said: »
Does the update go live after maintenance?

No, this maintenance is for resetting Login Campaign. There will be an update tomorrow.

No, this maintenance is for both login campaign and update.
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By Odin.Sheelay 2016-02-09 23:20:46
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Welp, now I have several reasons to get back to farming lots and lots of Gil.
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By Leviathan.Protey 2016-02-09 23:21:10
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Bismarck.Nickeny said: »
Asura.Lanselot said: »
Its 2016, will new plds please stop complaining about having to make aegis, for what aegis does its worth the time to make. Ppl need to learn to be more efficient with their playtime. Tip gear thf and farm dyna its stupid easy.


Aegis or bust shouldn't be the answer. There should be some type of middle ground.


While this notion of yours may have been acceptable in the past, with being able to spam dyna it no longer is. It is quite easy for everyone to get any relic in the minimum time of 1.5 weeks. Even if you don't want to farm the coins yourself, they are very inexpensive on the AH.
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By Leviathan.Protey 2016-02-09 23:23:59
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Odin.Geriond said: »
Leviathan.Protey said: »
Odin.Blazeoffury said: »
Does the update go live after maintenance?

No, this maintenance is for resetting Login Campaign. There will be an update tomorrow.

No, this maintenance is for both login campaign and update.


That's strange, they've always separated their Login Campaign reset and Update into two. I remember one time they did one back to back with the other.
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2016-02-09 23:24:49
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Asura.Lanselot said: »
I'm not sure that not having aegis is as big of a bust as you think it is. Yes, for reisenjima you're going to want aegis but that's endgame.


Nah... should be something to tide you over... You should never need BiS to do endgame.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2016-02-09 23:24:55
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The damage cap for player melee and ranged attacks has been raised.
The damage cap varies by weapon.
Uh-oh.
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2016-02-09 23:27:01
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Leviathan.Protey said: »
While this notion of yours may have been acceptable in the past, with being able to spam dyna it no longer is. It is quite easy for everyone to get any relic in the minimum time of 1.5 weeks. Even if you don't want to farm the coins yourself, they are very inexpensive on the AH.


Yes Gil is easy to make. Shouldn't force Aegis as a mandatory item for endgame. Not saying a PLD looking to be the best shouldn't aim for it but there should be something in the middle. Besides tho. Every PLD wants Aegis (and should be aiming to get it)
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By Odin.Sheelay 2016-02-09 23:27:03
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* Weapons which already have an afterglow effect only require one item instead of 10,000.

Pretty sure AG owners won't be unhappy with this.
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By Odin.Geriond 2016-02-09 23:28:34
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
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The damage cap for player melee and ranged attacks has been raised.
The damage cap varies by weapon.
Uh-oh.

That's just patch note talk for the cap will vary depending on weapon DMG, IE the same as before.
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2016-02-09 23:29:30
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Odin.Sheelay said: »
* Weapons which already have an afterglow effect only require one item instead of 10,000.

Pretty sure AG owners won't be unhappy with this.

I giggled.

I still have Twashtar and Vajra to upgrade though, but the grinding won't take that long. You can Tenzen VD is pretty easily
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By Cerberus.Cruxus 2016-02-09 23:29:32
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The following weapons will dispense special ammunition.

Yoichinoyumi / Annihilator / Gastraphetes / Death Penalty / Gandiva / Armageddon


Interesting, my question (which will be answered once miners finish/servers go live) is, do all versions do this or only after the upgrade? It lists this change after the table of upgrades but doesn't specify the actual version of the weapons. On a side note...I hope they're sexy ammo for the weapons they're produced from...
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2016-02-09 23:32:22
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Mmmmmm...

I have about 1000 of each type on mules... this gonna be good.
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By Sylph.Oraen 2016-02-09 23:32:54
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Welp, I finally have a use for my merits again. High tier spamming here we gooooo.
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By Asura.Essylt 2016-02-09 23:33:48
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Bismarck.Ihina said: »
You can Tenzen VD is pretty easily

Not when everybody and their brother is trying to do the same and all the BCNMs are hosted on the same server.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mithlas 2016-02-09 23:33:58
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* All weapons will have the same attributes post-reforging.

Ha. So all RME basically have the same stats, just increased dmg and skill only?

I don't even see that as a necessary for Nirvana or Aymur.
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By Sylph.Oraen 2016-02-09 23:35:09
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Asura.Essylt said: »
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You can Tenzen VD is pretty easily

Not when everybody and their brother is trying to do the same and all the BCNMs are hosted on the same server.

I suddenly don't hate being on the lowest pop server anymore.
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By Asura.Lanselot 2016-02-09 23:35:23
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Bismarck.Nickeny said: »
Leviathan.Protey said: »
While this notion of yours may have been acceptable in the past, with being able to spam dyna it no longer is. It is quite easy for everyone to get any relic in the minimum time of 1.5 weeks. Even if you don't want to farm the coins yourself, they are very inexpensive on the AH.


Yes Gil is easy to make. Shouldn't force Aegis as a mandatory item for endgame. Not saying a PLD looking to be the best shouldn't aim for it but there should be something in the middle. Besides tho. Every PLD wants Aegis (and should be aiming to get it)

Ok, what specifically do you mean when you say endgame? Me personally aegis is nothing in terms of a mandatory item/work compared to Idris when you are talking about true endgame like Reisenjima helm nms.
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2016-02-09 23:35:37
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Asura.Essylt said: »
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You can Tenzen VD is pretty easily

Not when everybody and their brother is trying to do the same and all the BCNMs are hosted on the same server.

You just had to bring everyone down like that.
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By Asura.Essylt 2016-02-09 23:37:01
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Quetzalcoatl.Mithlas said: »
* All weapons will have the same attributes post-reforging.

Think they mean that AG and non-AG routes will both yield the same result.
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By Leviathan.Protey 2016-02-09 23:38:10
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Odin.Sheelay said: »
* Weapons which already have an afterglow effect only require one item instead of 10,000.

Pretty sure AG owners won't be unhappy with this.

Doing the math for converting from 119 to AG/121, with scoria going for 5 mil, marrows 1.5 mil, riftcinders 1.5 mil:

It will be cheaper to go the 10,000 beitetsu route as long as beitetsu are below 75k each

It will be cheaper to go the 10,000 pluton route as long as plutons are below 37,500 each

It will be cheaper to go the 10,000 boulder route as long as boulders are below 450,000 each

edit: for empys that use riftdross (using price of 250k each): it will be cheaper to go the 10,000 boulder route as long as boulders are below 75k each
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By Sylph.Oraen 2016-02-09 23:39:20
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Selling 10,000 Riftborn Boulders, 451,000 each.
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By Fenrir.Ramzus 2016-02-09 23:43:38
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thank god all the mage weapons are still trash, i don't have to farm shitall
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mithlas 2016-02-09 23:44:31
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Fenrir.Ramzus said: »
thank god all the mage weapons are still trash, i don't have to farm shitall

I don't know. It seems as though mythic SCH or BLM staves got a nice upgrade, and Idris got a nice macc and mab upgrade.
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By Odin.Sheelay 2016-02-09 23:46:07
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This week will be a nightmare with everyone cramping BCs while rainbow campaign and its additional drop slot are up...

So evil SE... So evil...
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By Fenrir.Ramzus 2016-02-09 23:46:55
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Quetzalcoatl.Mithlas said: »
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thank god all the mage weapons are still trash, i don't have to farm shitall

I don't know. It seems as though mythic SCH or BLM staves got a nice upgrade, and Idris got a nice macc and mab upgrade.

laeva/tupsi are still not good for raw damage, especially since grioavolr got a mab/macc cap buff.

idris is good for enfeebs, but solstice still dunks it for max damage due to no int
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