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New Magic for BLMs via Job Points = Gifts!?
 Valefor.Sehachan
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-01-29 16:23:42
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Storms II
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By Pantafernando 2015-01-29 16:39:53
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Phoenix.Craptaculous said: »
Forgot to realize SE's playonline page pic:


the BLM one looks like a dark version of a Fusion SC.

SCH getting: Huge freakn Snowflakes of DOOOM.

Inb4 BLM bandwagon and BLM the new best dd with nukes that skillchain with itself to make skillchain lv4.
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By Lakshmi.Amymy 2015-01-29 19:46:13
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Pantafernando said: »
Phoenix.Craptaculous said: »
Forgot to realize SE's playonline page pic:


the BLM one looks like a dark version of a Fusion SC.

SCH getting: Huge freakn Snowflakes of DOOOM.

Inb4 BLM bandwagon and BLM the new best dd with nukes that skillchain with itself to make skillchain lv4.

I will dust off my black mage if they become good :)
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By Bismarck.Snprphnx 2015-01-29 21:25:11
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Storms II

Being able to give double storm weather would be awesome.
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By Bismarck.Snprphnx 2015-01-29 21:26:21
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BLM getting Impact without needing Twilight Cloak equipped.
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By Asura.Highwynn 2015-01-29 22:14:49
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Impact is dark magic
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By Ragnarok.Martel 2015-01-29 22:46:55
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Asura.Highwynn said: »
Impact is dark magic
Actually, while impact is dark elemental, it is in fact elemental magic when classified by skill.
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By Phoenix.Urteil 2015-01-29 22:53:50
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By mortontony1 2015-01-29 23:01:07
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Blues get Pheromone Blast. Makes monsters drop their pants.

{Yes, please.}
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By Shiva.Kingmancat 2015-01-29 23:39:13
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NIN should be thrown a bone and given Jubaku: Ni natively, then San with JP gift. Then have it be like REALLY good so NIN can get into relevant content and contribute better.

Also MASSACRE ELEGY! Yes, please.
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By Nazrious 2015-01-29 23:39:35
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mortontony1 said: »
Verda said: »
Blues get Pheromone Blast. Makes monsters drop their pants.

{Yes, please.}

Gil toss would be better. Higher accuracy and works on better looking Mobs.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Kimora 2015-01-30 01:06:26
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BLM gets Lv6 single target elemental magic, they discuss some spells jobs will receive in the もぎたてヴァナ・ディール!第14回.
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By Asura.Psylo 2015-01-30 03:45:03
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So RDM could win an access to V spell ^^
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By Pantafernando 2015-01-30 04:30:28
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Honestly, what will bring to table having more high tier magics?

Unless they completely blow in dmg, normally high tier magics are more mp expensive, have higher casting time, high recast time and generate a huge chunk of enmity. Would be better if it was like am with static enmity.

Higher magic are oh shiny! But it wont change a thing for the job, thus a waste of potential.
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By Phoenix.Urteil 2015-01-30 04:50:11
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All the potential you don't want I'll take.
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By Bahamut.Tychefm 2015-01-30 05:03:17
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Pantafernando said: »
Honestly, what will bring to table having more high tier magics?

Unless they completely blow in dmg, normally high tier magics are more mp expensive, have higher casting time, high recast time and generate a huge chunk of enmity. Would be better if it was like am with static enmity.

Higher magic are oh shiny! But it wont change a thing for the job, thus a waste of potential.

I'd give my nonexistant firstborn for higher tiers of magic on SCH.


It's true that the "normal" mages nowadays mostly resort to T1 spam. However higher Tiers have the bonus of "Alpha Strike". You can kill Outer Rakaz Skirmish Fodder in 1x T4 or T5 nuke without them scratching your face. You can 2 shot things like Kamihr Drifts mobs for EXP/CP/Eminence.

With a great FastCast set the casting time is not bad and you will kill things faster than with T1 spam due to the casting time locks.

Now if you go even further down my road you can make sets that don't swap your main weapon and thus make Occult Acumen an actual thing and making the T5 nukes give you huge junks of TP.

Then against mobs you can neglect some Macc and MAB, you use BLM Spaekona's coat +1 or Seidr Cotehardie to save you huge junks of MP.

...and then you make a nice Myrkr set with 2k+ max MP and maybe a TP bonus MoonShade to get back 500+MP per 1000TP spent.


Finally if you went down all this madness you will arrive at a point where you will actually gain MP from chain nuking T5 mobs while your full Sublimation and Convert sit there being bored. This works currently very well up to level 122 mobs. After that you might need additional MACC from your body and the nuke dmg gets too low to complete the circle.


...and while I talk all this stuff up I am just gonna fire up FRAPS to show you how it works out vs 121-122 mobs:

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By Leviathan.Protey 2015-01-30 08:10:30
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Bahamut.Tychefm said: »
Then against mobs you can neglect some Macc and MAB, you use BLM Rellic Body or Seidr Cotehardie to save you huge junks of MP.

I think you mean BLM AF reforged body.
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By Bahamut.Tychefm 2015-01-30 08:13:56
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Leviathan.Protey said: »
Bahamut.Tychefm said: »
Then against mobs you can neglect some Macc and MAB, you use BLM Rellic Body or Seidr Cotehardie to save you huge junks of MP.

I think you mean BLM AF reforged body.

Pretty much, thank you & fixed
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2015-01-30 08:20:39
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Quetzalcoatl.Kimora said: »
BLM gets Lv6 single target elemental magic, they discuss some spells jobs will receive in the もぎたてヴァナ・ディール!第14回.

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By Nazrious 2015-01-30 10:04:14
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Oh for the love of God man!
Set up some macros!

If they tied an enmity down effect to high tier nukes and made them have appropriate MP cost I would not begrudge Black mages such a boost. They could simply set recast to balance it. Blms really really need some sort of enmity dump to be effective, as it stands they are limited by MP having the enmity issue just further gimps the job. Sch is in the same boat from a nuke perspective, but they a redeemed via their stun prowess.
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By Bahamut.Tychefm 2015-01-30 10:16:25
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Nazrious said: »
Sch is in the same boat from a nuke perspective, but they a redeemed via their stun prowess.

The truth is GEOs have taken away most of the things you'd bring a SCH for in Pugs. Even stunning Delve1 stuff.
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