August Version Update Changes

Langues: JP EN DE FR
users online
Forum » FFXI » Jobs » Geomancer » August Version Update Changes
August Version Update Changes
First Page 2
Offline
Posts: 181
By Lyncath 2014-08-12 04:04:17
Link | Citer | R
 
http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/122967-Idris-testing-questions?p=6183738&viewfull=1#post6183738

Taken from the thread above.

Accuracy: 766 -> 862, +96 (was +75)
Attack: 818 -> 1303, +59.2% (was +25.5%)
Evasion: 579 -> 698, +119 (was +89)
Defense: 662 -> 1217, +83.8% (was +41.75%)

Speechless. Wow.

EDIT: Testing in Ballista

Accuracy: 775 -> 656 (-119)
Attack: 790 -> 237 (-70%)
Evasion: 588 -> 493 (-95)
Defense: 599 -> 353 (-41.1%)

Blaze of Glory Geo-Wilt dropped Attack from 790 to 1.
Ecliptic Attrition Geo-Frailty dropped Defense from 599 to 294 (-51%)

Under bolster:

Accuracy+: 721 -> 911 (+190)
Attack+: 798 -> 1745 (+218.6%)
Evasion+: 559 -> 797 (+238)
Defense+: 645 -> 1728 (+267.9%)

Acc-: 775 -> 537 (-238)
Attack-: 790 -> 1 (-99.9%?)
Evasion-: 588 -> 398 (-190)
Defense-: 599 -> 107 (-82.2%)



What are your own tests finding? If this is true then it's really something.

Edit: It seems that the above tests were done with an Idris. I'm not entirely sure, the only Geomancer I know of who has it is Malothar but I'm probably wrong.
 Bahamut.Ravael
Offline
Serveur: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
user: Ravael
Posts: 13622
By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-08-12 04:23:19
Link | Citer | R
 
I'm getting about +31% on attack, +37% on defense with just the bell. I'm not sure what all goes into the calculations, so take that for what it is.
 Bahamut.Ravael
Offline
Serveur: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
user: Ravael
Posts: 13622
By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-08-12 04:24:57
Link | Citer | R
 
Also, is there supposed to be something in Ra'Kaznar Inner Court that we can teleport to later? I can't find anything.
 Asura.Ackeronll
Offline
Serveur: Asura
Game: FFXI
user: Ackeron
Posts: 4307
By Asura.Ackeronll 2014-08-12 04:25:04
Link | Citer | R
 
Able to hit 45% Attack w/o Indris and my gear probably isn't that great.

Dunna with 421 Geo and 407 Handbell.
 Bahamut.Ravael
Offline
Serveur: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
user: Ravael
Posts: 13622
By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-08-12 04:27:32
Link | Citer | R
 
Hmm, I wonder why my numbers are lower. My skill and gear are just fine.

Edit: Nevermind, I derped on the math. +45% attack looks right. Thanks, Malothar.
Offline
Posts: 166
By Jadey 2014-08-12 11:55:02
Link | Citer | R
 
Those are my numbers from BG. I screwed up some of the percentages (all of the 2xx% ones should be 1xx%) but the raw numbers are correct. And yes, those are Idris numbers.
 Asura.Failaras
Offline
Serveur: Asura
Game: FFXI
user: Falaras
Posts: 3213
By Asura.Failaras 2014-08-12 13:56:23
Link | Citer | R
 
218% Attack under Bolster, jesus christ.
 Cerberus.Conagh
Offline
Serveur: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
user: onagh
Posts: 3189
By Cerberus.Conagh 2014-08-12 14:01:06
Link | Citer | R
 
Asura.Failaras said: »
218% Attack under Bolster, jesus christ.

Its 118%
 Cerberus.Conagh
Offline
Serveur: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
user: onagh
Posts: 3189
By Cerberus.Conagh 2014-08-12 14:03:29
Link | Citer | R
 
Defense+: 645 -> 1728 (+267.9%)

1728 is 267% of 645, but is not an increase of 267.9% as you need to remove the base 645 so its

1728 -645 ~ then whats left divided by base~

167.9%
 Asura.Failaras
Offline
Serveur: Asura
Game: FFXI
user: Falaras
Posts: 3213
By Asura.Failaras 2014-08-12 14:04:15
Link | Citer | R
 
That's still pretty insane.
 Cerberus.Conagh
Offline
Serveur: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
user: onagh
Posts: 3189
By Cerberus.Conagh 2014-08-12 14:05:04
Link | Citer | R
 
Asura.Failaras said: »
That's still pretty insane.

Not disputing that lol
 Shiva.Afliction
Offline
Serveur: Shiva
Game: FFXI
user: Freazer
Posts: 102
By Shiva.Afliction 2014-08-12 14:05:31
Link | Citer | R
 
Cerberus.Conagh said: »
Asura.Failaras said: »
218% Attack under Bolster, jesus christ.

Its 118%
either way thats fuxking crazy
 Cerberus.Conagh
Offline
Serveur: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
user: onagh
Posts: 3189
By Cerberus.Conagh 2014-08-12 14:06:26
Link | Citer | R
 
Cerberus.Conagh said: »
Asura.Failaras said: »
That's still pretty insane.

Not disputing that lol

This pretty much means Corsair is being made redundant (in any situation where you need accuracy and attack, oh wait everything Difficult + then....)
Offline
Posts: 65
By Lizk 2014-08-12 17:22:17
Link | Citer | R
 
so are mythic geos the best buffers now? are the haste and refresh numbers still the same?
Offline
Posts: 65
By Lizk 2014-08-12 17:24:32
Link | Citer | R
 
taken from bluegartr

Stacking Indi-Acumen, Geo-Malaise, and Aftermath L2 is producing some five digit Flash Novas.

Offline
Posts: 166
By Jadey 2014-08-12 17:43:55
Link | Citer | R
 
Lizk said: »
taken from bluegartr

Stacking Indi-Acumen, Geo-Malaise, and Aftermath L2 is producing some five digit Flash Novas.


yes hello.
Offline
Posts: 65
By Lizk 2014-08-12 18:07:54
Link | Citer | R
 
Jadey said: »
Lizk said: »
taken from bluegartr

Stacking Indi-Acumen, Geo-Malaise, and Aftermath L2 is producing some five digit Flash Novas.


yes hello.

So how do you see geo now with this buffs?
Offline
Posts: 12405
By Pantafernando 2014-08-12 18:12:36
Link | Citer | R
 
Geos main issue wasnt changed from update (just 2 actives buffs at any givwn time and luopan surviability), so it wont replace brd anyway. What can happen is to geo to take the best second buffer spot, beating cor, rdm and in a lesser extent, smn.
[+]
Offline
Posts: 1469
By pchan 2014-08-12 18:24:59
Link | Citer | R
 
Geo sucks because it's no bard, and because the luopan sucks. Real players new this before adoulin was even released.
 Asura.Natenn
Offline
Serveur: Asura
Game: FFXI
user: Naten
Posts: 1979
By Asura.Natenn 2014-08-12 18:31:43
Link | Citer | R
 
pchan said: »
Geo sucks because it's no bard, and because the luopan sucks. Real players new this before adoulin was even released.
[+]
 Bahamut.Ravael
Offline
Serveur: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
user: Ravael
Posts: 13622
By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-08-12 18:34:07
Link | Citer | R
 
trols cant spel. i new this b4 ffxi evn came out
[+]
Offline
Posts: 65
By Lizk 2014-08-12 18:38:02
Link | Citer | R
 
pchan said: »
Geo sucks because it's no bard, and because the luopan sucks. Real players new this before adoulin was even released.

so you didn't new?
[+]
Offline
Posts: 166
By Jadey 2014-08-12 18:55:36
Link | Citer | R
 
pchan said: »
Geo sucks because it's no bard, and because the luopan sucks. Real players new this before adoulin was even released.

rude...
[+]
 Leviathan.Krysten
Offline
Serveur: Leviathan
Game: FFXI
user: Krysten
Posts: 751
By Leviathan.Krysten 2014-08-12 19:02:10
Link | Citer | R
 
Wont be replaceing Cor anytime soon unless your server cor's just suck.

Buffs are only one side the job, DDing is another which geo isnt anywhere near because DUH its magical.
 Valefor.Prothescar
Guide Master
Offline
Serveur: Valefor
Game: FFXI
Posts: 19393
By Valefor.Prothescar 2014-08-12 19:03:21
Link | Citer | R
 
only having 2 buffs/debuffs at a time isn't the major issue. people place way too much value on the 3rd/4th songs. GEO haste and DEF down are easily equal to (or exceed) four songs. One of the buffs/debuffs relying on a very finite source, though...
[+]
Offline
Posts: 166
By Jadey 2014-08-12 19:25:14
Link | Citer | R
 
Idris has been a major boon to keeping the luopan alive. You can easily keep a hybrid 50PDT/50MDT/87.5LDT set and on stuff like VD AA each AoE only does ~180-200. With proper placement and JA usage I need 2-3 luopans per AA even using Blaze and Ecliptic to boost them. This was all pre-update, so the boost to debuff potency will only reduce the need to resummon.

Getting pickup groups to actually fight in the bubble if it moves is a different story, of course.
[+]
 Ramuh.Kailana
Offline
Serveur: Ramuh
Game: FFXI
user: Kailana
Posts: 2542
By Ramuh.Kailana 2014-08-12 20:13:15
Link | Citer | R
 
I was on DRK today, no food or buffs on and Lyncath did his fury move, then blaze of glory? then cast a fury on me. You'll have to ask him what he did, if he did 2hr (I honestly have no idea how GEO works) but my attack went from 1055 -> like 1894 or something. I hope he still has the numbers. That was before food, any bard songs, drk jas....I was very impressed.
Offline
Posts: 1469
By pchan 2014-08-13 01:35:05
Link | Citer | R
 
Jadey said: »
VD AA each AoE only does ~180-200.
No.
Offline
Posts: 166
By Jadey 2014-08-13 02:14:11
Link | Citer | R
 
pchan said: »
Jadey said: »
VD AA each AoE only does ~180-200.
No.


YouTube Video Placeholder
[+]
 Bahamut.Malothar
Offline
Serveur: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
user: Malithar
Posts: 396
By Bahamut.Malothar 2014-08-13 05:30:52
Link | Citer | R
 
Leviathan.Krysten said: »
Wont be replaceing Cor anytime soon unless your server cor's just suck.

Buffs are only one side the job, DDing is another which geo isnt anywhere near because DUH its magical.

lol, it works both ways don't you know? :P

Wait til you start seeing some Geo DDs romping about. It's not only fun, but bubbles +50-70% of a mythic Mnks damage is a pretty damn good contribution.
First Page 2
Log in to post.