New Augment Results

But also what u have to factor in to Hagun Vs this thingy, is the fact u can stack moar haste, moar acc or w/e in the slots that had ur Stp too

So not only do u 5 hit, u can have more haste(example) making it even better

As long as you factor the time farming for this GKT, yes. I'm aware that tilts it in Rindomaru's favor, but it's worth considering, especially if you're determined to get a particular augment configuration.

SMN got av perp -3
add effect poison +4

I got on my GK
acc+6
wsacc+3
stp +11

nin got dmg+3 acc+6 crit rate+3

sch got
macc+5 ele magic+4 thunder dmg+13

the drg got
3 dmg 2 str 1 hp

So you got a free Bahamut's Staff -1, a GKT that lets you focus completely on Haste and/or achieve 5hit, and a couple of meh pieces. Nice haul o.o

Well with a 6 hit using normal standard gear, you could only top out at 20%~ haste while keeping a 6 hit anyhow. But this 5 hit ordeal does bring about a whole new way to look at samurai gear.

I for one can't want until i get bumped over into medals... i JUST lost my wings of honor the day before the update ><. I want that store TP+20 in campaign strap... try that baby out with the soboro in campaign lol.

some others of mine

In Campaing it'll be +24 sTP? or only +20?
Since the strap has normally +4 and in campaign +20
it can be proven easilly with the other pieces
or maybe with besieged pieces ppl has noticed this?

drg got
dmg +5 str+2 add effect flash +5

I got on my GK
acc+3 store tp +9 add effect para +12

nin got acc+3 add effect poison +3

sch got int+2 macc+7 add effect fire +9

lol i dont get it... additional effect: Poison+3 = what? stronger poison effect? or more often? lol. WTF SE.

we think it means 3% proc

Poison has a 3% proc rate. It's not that complicated.

Full of WIN!

/comfort

Aha. Ahahaha.

ROFLMAO

That totally makes up for the INT+6 weskit earlier.

A few augments we just did:

I'm no sam, so I won't comment about whether Hagun or new GKT is better or anything about 5hit vs 6 hit... but this... if youre capped at 95% acc ... you're capped at 95% acc. you'll still miss some hits, and you'll still miss some weaponskills. I don't see why adding more accuracy (wsacc) would make any difference? Am i missing something? I'm confused. Also Dex helps with crit hits, and only on certain weaponskills. WSacc and Macc dont have anything to do with crits that I've read...

There are a couple other threads floating around with tests on WSACC. You must have missed that boat. Apparently people are hitting higher numbers more reliably with it.

Pretty much... my MKT expansion head is putting out unusually higher numbers and i doubt the STR+1 is making that difference in its entirety.

I'm kind of confused as well. lol It was discovered awhile back, I think by Hakamaru or someone on Allah that Y/G/K have natural ACC boosts anyway that leave them capped in most situations. With pizza becoming more and more popular it's almost completely moot in any given situation, really, being why in general SAMs toss acc right out the *** door in WS sets now. lol

No idea what is meant by "land critical WS damage" either unless the word critical is being used in a literal sense of importance? lol SAMs have no WSs with criticals in them and as Altar stated once you're capped you're capped, no getting that 5% acc gap.

I've been using WS acc +15 STR +4/ Acc +10 Attack+5 for penta spam in merits. It's godlike. Has anyone parsed 5hit G.kat vs. Hagun yet or read about it?

The only example i can give that people can understand is how magic ACC prevents you from getting resisted or low damage... it doesn't WORK the same that's defiantly not what i'm saying. And yeah if your at the 95% cap you can still miss. All i'm saying by WS ACC is that im getting less "resist damage" and more higher end damage.

I hope that makes sense at least in those terms.

WS acc+ works just like acc+ on a 1 hit WS. For Y/G/K, It's not doing anything because Y/G/K acc caps at 95%. There's no point in bridging that 5%, feel free to do so though. You should use hachiman domaru and get rid of that kirin's osode if that is the case.

The good news is I don't have to camp Vbow now :/

Obligatory: DOMARUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
I'll look around and see if I can dig up some links to wsacc if other people are interested.
Unless somebody else already has some?

lol damn, that sucks..

Numbers without MKT head piece sofar on greater colibri nyzul camp:
1012
839
912
1002
973
842

Numbers WITH MKT head piece sofar on greater colibri nyzul camp:
1096
1108
989
1022
1120
944

I doubt that +1 STR is keeping me on the high 900/1000+ side. I don't personally believe that WS ACC and ACC are fully related... but yet there is no proof at this time. And the reason people WS in osode over domaru is more STR for the 75% modifier on Y/G/K. In either case i've always seen higher or more consistent numbers with more WSACC.

Regardless it's just an added bonus that you don't have to eat food 24/7 or have other top gear to be at ACC cap. The true power behind this Gkatana is the 5 hit setup possibility. You could even have a 4 hit in campaign battle with that new strap.

To even do considerable parse damage a SAM must always have a 6 hit, the reason being less hits to WS. But now that 5 hit is easily accessible with some farming/time put into it... there is no reason not to achieve a 5 hit with as much haste as you can.

And that's the bottom line on this new weapon.

I'm interested in seeing what Clinpachi's talking about considering it seems he's already aware of what Altar and I are talking about. D: I mean if I understand it correctly, the claim is that there's a correlation somehow between extra WS acc and more consistent top-end WS dmg given the way WS dmg has a little bit of wiggle room. It sounds freaking ridiculous out loud, but if a credible source has some form of proof I'd be really interested in reading regardless. lol

Yes that's what im saying and i agree it seems ridiculous but do understand that the only things that had this before was hachiman and everyone lol's at the domaruuuuu mostly because of the bandwagon SAM's that TP in it. But now that this Gkatana and MTK expansion head have rediculous amounts on it, im noticing a decent end consistent damage.

Either way thats not my main argument of the Gkatana, the 5 hit build is... which in no way shape or form can be denied.

i definitely see a decline in hagun price in the near future

lolHagun,

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