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By Enuyasha 2013-06-25 20:24:42
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Why not just be happy that they are giving SMN an alternator like tathlum that cant be thrown >_>'
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By Lakshmi.Cledant 2013-06-25 20:48:44
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Siren.Novadragon said: »
Luvbunny1 said: »
Lakshmi.Madotsuki said: »
All the best Linkshells that have succeeded already have their rosters filled and well-known acquaintances to call upon if needed. They won't take on unknown, new members out of kindness of their heart. All they'll do is offer a win for those with wealth.

Sigh... so the rich get richer, the casual get even more left behind, until SE decided it's time to open the gate and introduce purchasable KI that weakens the boss so you can do it with 12 people or less, similar to how they did it with Voidwatch? Hopefully? Right now you have to be really focus on gearing yourself and 200% dedication to playing this game or you won't be able to enjoy the new contents. Or just wait till further updates would ease up the difficulty and make it more feasible for everyone to participate, usually this will happen in 12-18 months after that said content is launched.

By that time FFXI will be a ghost town.
it is on lakshmi lol
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By Quiznor 2013-06-25 20:51:09
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Lakshmi.Cledant said: »
Siren.Novadragon said: »
Luvbunny1 said: »
Lakshmi.Madotsuki said: »
All the best Linkshells that have succeeded already have their rosters filled and well-known acquaintances to call upon if needed. They won't take on unknown, new members out of kindness of their heart. All they'll do is offer a win for those with wealth.

Sigh... so the rich get richer, the casual get even more left behind, until SE decided it's time to open the gate and introduce purchasable KI that weakens the boss so you can do it with 12 people or less, similar to how they did it with Voidwatch? Hopefully? Right now you have to be really focus on gearing yourself and 200% dedication to playing this game or you won't be able to enjoy the new contents. Or just wait till further updates would ease up the difficulty and make it more feasible for everyone to participate, usually this will happen in 12-18 months after that said content is launched.

By that time FFXI will be a ghost town.
it is on lakshmi lol

I'd say it probably is on most servers,factoring in what people count as a "ghost town" of course
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By Gimp 2013-06-25 20:53:52
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Enuyasha said: »
Why not just be happy that they are giving SMN an alternator like tathlum that cant be thrown >_>'


it's going to be that powerful?

Lots of room for improvement on smn really so nothing wrong with throwing those sorts of ideas out there
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2013-06-25 20:54:51
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What I'm wondering is if they even know that FFXI has declined dramatically since SoA's release, I know they see the numbers, I know they see the complaints to SOME extent, but do they make the connection or do they sit, staring at charts and graphs, saying "FFXI is failing? That's strange, people are complaining, too. I wonder what it all means?" It seems like they aren't making the connection and just keep going forward, or perhaps their view is more along the lines of "We're changing this game to what WE want it to be, play it or get the *** out!" which is a REALLY bad business strategy, but I wouldn't put either past them.

Either way, the way they are doing things is internationally disapproved of, SE is severing ties with Click & Buy, and the tinfoil hats are on the heads of thousands, just like back when Abyssea came out, many disapproved of Abyssea, but it was actually playable and to some enjoyable, but many people seem to hate SoA, from noobs who can't get into Delve because of their gear to the elites who have grown tired of Delve. I don't see FFXI lasting very long past the completion of SoA, If they are going to kill it, I wish they'd just kill it, I hate long goodbyes.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Nymphadora 2013-06-25 21:11:34
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Quetzacoatl said: »
Enuyasha said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
I don't care if it's the last thing I do in this game but I'm going to get that *** pink umbrella hat.
its orange isnt it? :<
more like a scarlet

I believe "Salmon" would be the name you're looking for. ?

XD
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By Quetzacoatl 2013-06-25 21:16:15
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Quetzalcoatl.Nymphadora said: »
Quetzacoatl said: »
Enuyasha said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
I don't care if it's the last thing I do in this game but I'm going to get that *** pink umbrella hat.
its orange isnt it? :<
more like a scarlet

I believe "Salmon" would be the name you're looking for. ?

XD
Raw Salmon, not cooked Salmon =P
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By Enuyasha 2013-06-25 21:17:22
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Phoenix.Kojo said: »
What I'm wondering is if they even know that FFXI has declined dramatically since SoA's release, I know they see the numbers, I know they see the complaints to SOME extent, but do they make the connection or do they sit, staring at charts and graphs, saying "FFXI is failing? That's strange, people are complaining, too. I wonder what it all means?" It seems like they aren't making the connection and just keep going forward, or perhaps their view is more along the lines of "We're changing this game to what WE want it to be, play it or get the *** out!" which is a REALLY bad business strategy, but I wouldn't put either past them.

Either way, the way they are doing things is internationally disapproved of, SE is severing ties with Click & Buy, and the tinfoil hats are on the heads of thousands, just like back when Abyssea came out, many disapproved of Abyssea, but it was actually playable and to some enjoyable, but many people seem to hate SoA, from noobs who can't get into Delve because of their gear to the elites who have grown tired of Delve. I don't see FFXI lasting very long past the completion of SoA, If they are going to kill it, I wish they'd just kill it, I hate long goodbyes.
Trying to partially satisfy a minority while saying "We are tired of considering your bitching and then you *** more while bitching about bitching more,this is OUR game" is reverting back to the old game (Which is what more people wanted).
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By Kalila 2013-06-25 21:21:38
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Just look at how long they've spent fixing Linkshell Community if you want to know how they feel about their game and the players.

You really don't need to look into it anymore than that.
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By Shiva.Tedril 2013-06-25 21:23:33
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Idgaf... Great game! That is all.

Edit: except for the ls community site stuff that is annoying. I like SoA though its just something new is all. Same game different presentation.
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By Kalila 2013-06-25 21:26:44
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Quetzacoatl said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Nymphadora said: »
Quetzacoatl said: »
Enuyasha said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
I don't care if it's the last thing I do in this game but I'm going to get that *** pink umbrella hat.
its orange isnt it? :<
more like a scarlet

I believe "Salmon" would be the name you're looking for. ?

XD
Raw Salmon, not cooked Salmon =P
Salmon
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By Quetzacoatl 2013-06-25 21:32:20
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Kalila said: »
Quetzacoatl said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Nymphadora said: »
Quetzacoatl said: »
Enuyasha said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
I don't care if it's the last thing I do in this game but I'm going to get that *** pink umbrella hat.
its orange isnt it? :<
more like a scarlet

I believe "Salmon" would be the name you're looking for. ?

XD
Raw Salmon, not cooked Salmon =P
Salmon
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By Quetzalcoatl.Nymphadora 2013-06-25 21:34:55
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Kalila said: »
Quetzacoatl said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Nymphadora said: »
Quetzacoatl said: »
Enuyasha said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
I don't care if it's the last thing I do in this game but I'm going to get that *** pink umbrella hat.
its orange isnt it? :<
more like a scarlet

I believe "Salmon" would be the name you're looking for. ?

XD
Raw Salmon, not cooked Salmon =P
Salmon



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By Quetzacoatl 2013-06-25 21:36:18
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Quetzalcoatl.Nymphadora said: »
Kalila said: »
Quetzacoatl said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Nymphadora said: »
Quetzacoatl said: »
Enuyasha said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
I don't care if it's the last thing I do in this game but I'm going to get that *** pink umbrella hat.
its orange isnt it? :<
more like a scarlet

I believe "Salmon" would be the name you're looking for. ?

XD
Raw Salmon, not cooked Salmon =P
Salmon



Mmmm salmon.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2013-06-25 21:44:39
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Salmon is just a fancy pink. I am vindicated. So glad I didn't shoot you Kali, thanks!
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By Enuyasha 2013-06-25 21:46:54
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Salmon is just a fancy pink. I am vindicated. So glad I didn't shoot you Kali, thanks!
This is why im not an interior design student...Graphic Design dont care bout no fancy colors!
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2013-06-25 21:50:17
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Enuyasha said: »
Phoenix.Kojo said: »
What I'm wondering is if they even know that FFXI has declined dramatically since SoA's release, I know they see the numbers, I know they see the complaints to SOME extent, but do they make the connection or do they sit, staring at charts and graphs, saying "FFXI is failing? That's strange, people are complaining, too. I wonder what it all means?" It seems like they aren't making the connection and just keep going forward, or perhaps their view is more along the lines of "We're changing this game to what WE want it to be, play it or get the *** out!" which is a REALLY bad business strategy, but I wouldn't put either past them.

Either way, the way they are doing things is internationally disapproved of, SE is severing ties with Click & Buy, and the tinfoil hats are on the heads of thousands, just like back when Abyssea came out, many disapproved of Abyssea, but it was actually playable and to some enjoyable, but many people seem to hate SoA, from noobs who can't get into Delve because of their gear to the elites who have grown tired of Delve. I don't see FFXI lasting very long past the completion of SoA, If they are going to kill it, I wish they'd just kill it, I hate long goodbyes.
Trying to partially satisfy a minority while saying "We are tired of considering your bitching and then you *** more while bitching about bitching more,this is OUR game" is reverting back to the old game (Which is what more people wanted).
Funny thing is, you're right, this IS what people wanted, harder content, harder for lv 99s, like how content was to 75's before Abyssea, but they screwed it up, and ignored requests within requests from the same people.

"Please give us 24-48 hour respawn HNMs back!!"
Nothing.

"Create content that requires strategy beyond zerg rushing everything."
Nada.

Consider the fact that Field NMs used to rage rather than depop, if you didn't zerg fast enough, find another strategy because it's a challenge now, sort of, but they changed it to a 25 min time limit with no rage timer, thus you zerg. Why was it changed? Because people were taking too long, people were getting impatient, which is funny considering those same people asked for 24-48 hour respawn HNMs. Imagine them missing claim and having to wait a day or two to fight the mob.
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By Phoenix.Brixy 2013-06-25 21:50:47
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Throwing weapon for smn? Can't wait!
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By Enuyasha 2013-06-25 21:53:22
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Phoenix.Kojo said: »
Enuyasha said: »
Phoenix.Kojo said: »
What I'm wondering is if they even know that FFXI has declined dramatically since SoA's release, I know they see the numbers, I know they see the complaints to SOME extent, but do they make the connection or do they sit, staring at charts and graphs, saying "FFXI is failing? That's strange, people are complaining, too. I wonder what it all means?" It seems like they aren't making the connection and just keep going forward, or perhaps their view is more along the lines of "We're changing this game to what WE want it to be, play it or get the *** out!" which is a REALLY bad business strategy, but I wouldn't put either past them.

Either way, the way they are doing things is internationally disapproved of, SE is severing ties with Click & Buy, and the tinfoil hats are on the heads of thousands, just like back when Abyssea came out, many disapproved of Abyssea, but it was actually playable and to some enjoyable, but many people seem to hate SoA, from noobs who can't get into Delve because of their gear to the elites who have grown tired of Delve. I don't see FFXI lasting very long past the completion of SoA, If they are going to kill it, I wish they'd just kill it, I hate long goodbyes.
Trying to partially satisfy a minority while saying "We are tired of considering your bitching and then you *** more while bitching about bitching more,this is OUR game" is reverting back to the old game (Which is what more people wanted).
Funny thing is, you're right, this IS what people wanted, harder content, harder for lv 99s, like how content was to 75's before Abyssea, but they screwed it up, and ignored requests within requests from the same people.

"Please give us 24-48 hour respawn HNMs back!!"
Nothing.

"Create content that requires strategy beyond zerg rushing everything."
Nada.

Consider the fact that Field NMs used to rage rather than depop, if you didn't zerg fast enough, find another strategy because it's a challenge now, sort of, but they changed it to a 25 min time limit with no rage timer, thus you zerg. Why was it changed? Because people were taking too long, people were getting impatient, which is funny considering those same people asked for 24-48 hour respawn HNMs. Imagine them missing claim and having to wait a day or two to fight the mob.
Which is why i mentioned the bolded~ People that wanted the "challenge" will *** about the "challenge" until the "challenge" is removed then *** about the lack of "challenge". I personally think its time for SE to go back to where they tell us they are going to do something after they did it and say "*** you, this is how this ***is going to work."
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2013-06-25 21:56:33
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Enuyasha said: »
Phoenix.Kojo said: »
Enuyasha said: »
Phoenix.Kojo said: »
What I'm wondering is if they even know that FFXI has declined dramatically since SoA's release, I know they see the numbers, I know they see the complaints to SOME extent, but do they make the connection or do they sit, staring at charts and graphs, saying "FFXI is failing? That's strange, people are complaining, too. I wonder what it all means?" It seems like they aren't making the connection and just keep going forward, or perhaps their view is more along the lines of "We're changing this game to what WE want it to be, play it or get the *** out!" which is a REALLY bad business strategy, but I wouldn't put either past them.

Either way, the way they are doing things is internationally disapproved of, SE is severing ties with Click & Buy, and the tinfoil hats are on the heads of thousands, just like back when Abyssea came out, many disapproved of Abyssea, but it was actually playable and to some enjoyable, but many people seem to hate SoA, from noobs who can't get into Delve because of their gear to the elites who have grown tired of Delve. I don't see FFXI lasting very long past the completion of SoA, If they are going to kill it, I wish they'd just kill it, I hate long goodbyes.
Trying to partially satisfy a minority while saying "We are tired of considering your bitching and then you *** more while bitching about bitching more,this is OUR game" is reverting back to the old game (Which is what more people wanted).
Funny thing is, you're right, this IS what people wanted, harder content, harder for lv 99s, like how content was to 75's before Abyssea, but they screwed it up, and ignored requests within requests from the same people.

"Please give us 24-48 hour respawn HNMs back!!"
Nothing.

"Create content that requires strategy beyond zerg rushing everything."
Nada.

Consider the fact that Field NMs used to rage rather than depop, if you didn't zerg fast enough, find another strategy because it's a challenge now, sort of, but they changed it to a 25 min time limit with no rage timer, thus you zerg. Why was it changed? Because people were taking too long, people were getting impatient, which is funny considering those same people asked for 24-48 hour respawn HNMs. Imagine them missing claim and having to wait a day or two to fight the mob.
Which is why i mentioned the bolded~ People that wanted the "challenge" will *** about the "challenge" until the "challenge" is removed then *** about the lack of "challenge". I personally think its time for SE to go back to where they tell us they are going to do something after they did it and say "*** you, this is how this ***is going to work."
I think I read the bolded wrong the first time..
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By Einhejar 2013-06-25 22:47:05
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So... the new UI.. did they mean summer 2014 when they said summer?
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By Siren.Knivesz 2013-06-25 22:54:25
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Why would people ever want 24-48 hr HNM respawn back? I never understood this. Is it just to artificially create more drama among the servers cause that is the only reason I can think of really. How do people justify HNM camping as being any more enjoyable than even plasm farming? Both are boring as **** but at least the latter actually has you doing something as opposed to being afk watching netflix or something like on the former.
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By Lakshmi.Feint 2013-06-25 23:10:18
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I predict rage quiting in the near future.
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By Luvbunny1 2013-06-25 23:14:25
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At this point the damage is already done. They probably already reached their set goal in selling the expansion, a lot of us are "suckered" into buying it. Even if 50% of those who bought the expansion decided to quit, it does not matter, our $30-40 bucks already paid for the game to last a minimum a year. FFXI is pure profit for SE, very minimal cost to maintain. The game will keep on going even with 4-5 servers and catering to the hardcore players only.

SoA is a brilliant strategy, in one stroke they reached their sales goal, purge all the casuals and funnel them to FF14, and focus on their 10% hardcore loyalist who will keep the game and server going for years. Hence you see that Matsui does not even bother adjusting anything else other than SoA contents. He seems to be under very limited resource and have to proceed according to plans and cannot do anything but working on SoA content only.

At this point, FFXI is cash cow, they don't need to do much, and they don't have to get new players. They will be happy to just keep existing hardcore loyalist and catering to just those people. Those profits are enough to keep the servers going, maintain skeleton crew that only work on planned content and nothing else, and do the basic minimum of content update and maintenance. We can argue all we want, as long as the loyalist stick with this game, it won't die :)

On another note, anyone getting Project X?
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-06-25 23:39:11
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Man, a lot of you just need to quit and go play Animal Crossing or something sheesh.

Adoulin was a bit of a system shock but getting myself and my friends ready for Delve bosses has been a blast. Maybe you should like, I don't know, try participating in content instead of bashing stuff you don't do.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2013-06-25 23:41:02
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Phoenix.Brixy said: »

Throwing weapon for smn? Can't wait!

Have to admit, that's hilarious. Yeah, agree with Sylow here.
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By Enuyasha 2013-06-25 23:43:30
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Luvbunny1 said: »
At this point the damage is already done. They probably already reached their set goal in selling the expansion, a lot of us are "suckered" into buying it. Even if 50% of those who bought the expansion decided to quit, it does not matter, our $30-40 bucks already paid for the game to last a minimum a year. FFXI is pure profit for SE, very minimal cost to maintain. The game will keep on going even with 4-5 servers and catering to the hardcore players only.

SoA is a brilliant strategy, in one stroke they reached their sales goal, purge all the casuals and funnel them to FF14, and focus on their 10% hardcore loyalist who will keep the game and server going for years. Hence you see that Matsui does not even bother adjusting anything else other than SoA contents. He seems to be under very limited resource and have to proceed according to plans and cannot do anything but working on SoA content only.

At this point, FFXI is cash cow, they don't need to do much, and they don't have to get new players. They will be happy to just keep existing hardcore loyalist and catering to just those people. Those profits are enough to keep the servers going, maintain skeleton crew that only work on planned content and nothing else, and do the basic minimum of content update and maintenance. We can argue all we want, as long as the loyalist stick with this game, it won't die :)

On another note, anyone getting Project X?
Tell me then fine sir, why are all the hardcores rage quitting?

Someone needs to take their shades of hate off and get with some reality goggles man.
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By Quetzacoatl 2013-06-25 23:51:39
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Enuyasha said: »
Luvbunny1 said: »
At this point the damage is already done. They probably already reached their set goal in selling the expansion, a lot of us are "suckered" into buying it. Even if 50% of those who bought the expansion decided to quit, it does not matter, our $30-40 bucks already paid for the game to last a minimum a year. FFXI is pure profit for SE, very minimal cost to maintain. The game will keep on going even with 4-5 servers and catering to the hardcore players only.

SoA is a brilliant strategy, in one stroke they reached their sales goal, purge all the casuals and funnel them to FF14, and focus on their 10% hardcore loyalist who will keep the game and server going for years. Hence you see that Matsui does not even bother adjusting anything else other than SoA contents. He seems to be under very limited resource and have to proceed according to plans and cannot do anything but working on SoA content only.

At this point, FFXI is cash cow, they don't need to do much, and they don't have to get new players. They will be happy to just keep existing hardcore loyalist and catering to just those people. Those profits are enough to keep the servers going, maintain skeleton crew that only work on planned content and nothing else, and do the basic minimum of content update and maintenance. We can argue all we want, as long as the loyalist stick with this game, it won't die :)

On another note, anyone getting Project X?
Tell me then fine sir, why are all the hardcores rage quitting?

Someone needs to take their shades of hate off and get with some reality goggles man.
Luvbunny's an O.F. ***, good luck trying to get them to do that
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By Phoenix.Salmijr 2013-06-25 23:52:44
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Fenrir.Sylow said: »
Man, a lot of you just need to quit and go play Animal Crossing or something sheesh.
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***reminds me I haven't checked on my town in three days :<
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