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 Ragnarok.Exavion
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By Ragnarok.Exavion 2014-06-03 07:32:53
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Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
Because Arcadian Jerkin +1 is too random to make a consistent 4hit build?

edit: If you don't care about a specific xhit build it is not a bad option.

At this point all i'm even considering it for is for duing double-shot and overkill. Also use it for /lockstyle lol
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By Quetzalcoatl.Waffless 2014-06-06 15:59:43
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Quetzalcoatl.Waffless said: »
So assuming /war with Anni/shark bullets - 42 stp and 2/4 procs from hat is the magic number to aim for? (4 hit)

bump
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By Asura.Sope 2014-06-06 16:18:29
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Quetzalcoatl.Waffless said: »
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So assuming /war with Anni/shark bullets - 42 stp and 2/4 procs from hat is the magic number to aim for? (4 hit)

bump

That works as long as you ws in 18 stp.
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By Sylph.Limlight 2014-06-06 18:21:53
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Asura.Sope said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Waffless said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Waffless said: »
So assuming /war with Anni/shark bullets - 42 stp and 2/4 procs from hat is the magic number to aim for? (4 hit)

bump

That works as long as you ws in 18 stp.

which isn't that hard to do.
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By Asura.Aikchan 2014-06-06 22:14:56
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Sylph.Limlight said: »
Asura.Sope said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Waffless said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Waffless said: »
So assuming /war with Anni/shark bullets - 42 stp and 2/4 procs from hat is the magic number to aim for? (4 hit)

bump

That works as long as you ws in 18 stp.

which isn't that hard to do.

my 4hit /war is with 37 STP
26TP on WS(30STP) (assume w/ Head proc) havent seen it return less than that... just more when conserve TP proc
22.5 (22/23 TP hit 27/28 w/ Head Pro)

Could get 45stp loosing 15/16 acc but so far this set works really well.

atm
1020racc
1076ratk
w/o food/buffs
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By Asura.Sope 2014-06-07 13:47:08
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If you shot in 1 more stp you would be in a 2/4 recycle 4-hit.

You might want to consider dropping a lot of stp instead, and hitting the minimum stp values for a 3/4 recycle 4-hit, using 31 stp to shoot and 21 stp to ws.
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By Asura.Sope 2014-06-07 13:52:33
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Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
Because Arcadian Jerkin +1 is too random to make a consistent 4hit build?

edit: If you don't care about a specific xhit build it is not a bad option.

This is like saying melee jobs should avoid double attack because it makes their x-hit "less consistent."
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By Fenrir.Ramzus 2014-06-07 14:08:41
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except it isn't because double attack doesn't change the amount of stp you get per swing
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By Asura.Sope 2014-06-07 14:12:37
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Neither does arcadian jerkin, unless you neglect to put stp in a different slot I guess?

You would want to keep the same amount of total stp, I assumed that was pretty obvious.
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By Aikawa 2014-06-07 14:28:16
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Asura.Sope said: »
If you shot in 1 more stp you would be in a 2/4 recycle 4-hit.

You might want to consider dropping a lot of stp instead, and hitting the minimum stp values for a 3/4 recycle 4-hit, using 31 stp to shoot and 21 stp to ws.
"alot"... most likely 1 STP Piece(of 5) on /WAR I dont use staff so dont use the 6STP Grip.

Will check what can I replace for sure ACC,but will see if have any other option
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By Asura.Ccl 2014-06-07 14:34:34
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Do not listen to Sope please, he parsed 30% racc on VD mithra yesterday!
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By Fenrir.Ramzus 2014-06-07 14:38:27
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pretty sure recycle doesn't proc on double shots is why (not that 5% should even be significant?), unless zero is just being a noob and didn't think to put stp elsewhere
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By Asura.Sope 2014-06-07 14:39:02
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omg ccl I hate you

and yes recycle can proc on double shots
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By Fenrir.Ramzus 2014-06-07 14:42:06
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Asura.Sope said: »
omg ccl I hate you

and yes recycle can proc on double shots

oh okay, i was trying to figure out why overkill was *** up my hit build but i guess that isn't it
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By Asura.Ccl 2014-06-07 19:24:32
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I don't think recycle can proc on overkill, I had run of VD elvaan where I used overkill during invincible and got 0 tp back from recycle.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Waffless 2014-06-07 23:56:00
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Thanks guys.
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2014-06-08 00:59:24
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Does Gastraphetes still suck?
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2014-06-08 01:02:26
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Leviathan.Hohenheim said: »
Does Gastraphetes still suck?

Yep
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2014-06-08 01:10:15
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Leviathan.Draylo said: »
Leviathan.Hohenheim said: »
Does Gastraphetes still suck?

Yep

/tear, ah well, haven't played in over a year now anyway. I miss it though somedays :<
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2014-06-08 01:21:25
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Leviathan.Hohenheim said: »
Leviathan.Draylo said: »
Leviathan.Hohenheim said: »
Does Gastraphetes still suck?

Yep

/tear, ah well, haven't played in over a year now anyway. I miss it though somedays :<

Come play!
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By Bismarck.Snprphnx 2014-06-08 01:31:43
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Asura.Ccl said: »
I don't think recycle can proc on overkill, I had run of VD elvaan where I used overkill during invincible and got 0 tp back from recycle.

It does. I used overkill tonight, checking my ammo before and after. I only lost 2 bullets.
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By Fenrir.Ramzus 2014-06-08 04:10:06
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i meant the tp enhancement rather than the trait itself
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By Bismarck.Snprphnx 2014-06-08 08:21:43
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Fenrir.Ramzus said: »
i meant the tp enhancement rather than the trait itself

Just tested. I was getting back 28tp with my TP shots and 24tp per WS, same as always
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By Bismarck.Marmite 2014-06-08 08:30:54
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Is it better dps to ws during overkill then? Eye-balling it just seems too much of a delay to me.
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By Bismarck.Snprphnx 2014-06-08 08:40:05
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I don't know, I have wondered that myself. Reason being, if the ratio of 2/3 double shot and 1/3 triple shot holds up, you are still looking at needing to pull the trigger twice to get tp 2/3rds of the time, and you will be at an over supply of TP. And if you aren't WSing, then you can drop the x-hit gear and go max damage.
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By Bismarck.Marmite 2014-06-08 08:56:33
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I generally stack more rapid shot and snapshot gear for overkill, lock the set and spam my shoot macro.

I guess it depends a lot on your timing also?
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By Asura.Ccl 2014-06-08 14:26:28
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Bismarck.Snprphnx said: »
Fenrir.Ramzus said: »
i meant the tp enhancement rather than the trait itself

Just tested. I was getting back 28tp with my TP shots and 24tp per WS, same as always

Do you have test showing it proc on multiple it ? It never happen for me when I test during invincible
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2014-06-08 14:38:24
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All you avatarless people making me have to read names and ***.
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By Asura.Ccl 2014-06-08 22:30:03
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Bismarck.Snprphnx said: »
Fenrir.Ramzus said: »
i meant the tp enhancement rather than the trait itself

Just tested. I was getting back 28tp with my TP shots and 24tp per WS, same as always

Did some test, the recycle tp augment can only proc on the first hit of overkill/DA, recycle can proc on the following hit, but you don't get the 5 extra tp augment.
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By Cerberus.Shadowmeld 2014-06-09 10:08:52
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I am trying to map out my sets based around Hgafircian since that is my only 119 ranged weapon at the moment and this is what I have come up with.

ItemSet 324666
ItemSet 324667

By my calculations the base TP given with Hgafircian +2 and Achi bullets is 17.2. This set, +26 stp in TP phase and +12 in WS would give enough TP for a 4 hit as long as both hits of Last Stand hit and Recycle procs at least 3/4. With the gear that I have until I can get items like bloodrain strap or Kydfasdfaesradf body from DM, I could maybe swap out Scout's Belt with goading Goading Belt, or throw on a Brutal Earring for an additional sTP. Adding 1 sTP would put me at 99.8 TP gained if I get 3/4 procs of Recycle and I miss the second hit of last stand. Is this an acceptable set?
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