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By Bismarck.Inference 2013-11-25 18:51:00
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You need 36 STP to 4-hit a Surefire. Set is pretty much fine but switching in Rajas ring will help remove some of the dependency on SAM roll for hitting this number.

Roll values you need :
With Rajas
W/O SAM in PT : 8 or higher.
W/ SAM in PT : Anything not 1 or unlucky

Without Rajas
W/O SAM in PT : 10, 11, or lucky
W/ SAM in PT : 5 or higher.

This is assuming you get a recycle proc on every TP shot. You may also need a bit less STP if your WS set has STP in it.

Edit : Aphotic+Shield will pull ahead of staff/rose. The STP won't help you break into a new hit build it will just let you get worse SAM rolls. Plus you're losing a lot of STR and Fencer bonus assuming you're /WAR.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2013-11-25 21:25:31
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Per Fractalvoid's request

W/orion socks & 5/5 Scavenge effect merits.

(90 total ammo remaining)

1. Expended 1 (scavenge=fail)
2. Expended 1 (scavenge=fail)
3. Expended 1 (scavenge=fail)

Result:
Return value resets when scavenge is used.
Can not successfuly scavenge after expending just 1 ammo.
Can not get a total return of 100% on spent ammo.

w/Orion Socks & 5/5 merits

Test modified to use a fixed number: 10 ammo.

(87 ammo remaining)

4. Expended 10 (scavenge =8)
5. Expended 10 (scavenge =8)
6. Expended 10 (scavenge =8)

No Boots with 5/5 Scavenge Merits.

(57 ammo remaining)

7. Expended 10 (scavenge =7)
8. Expended 10 (scavenge =7)
9. Expended 10 (scavenge =7)

(27 test stack ammo remaining, scavenged ammo= 45; (24+21))
total ammo remaining= 72; (27+45)
total ammo expended= 60

Test Results:
10% increase with Orion Socks.
75% total scavenge return rate (45/60=0.75).
80% w/ max merits + O. Socks.
70% w/ with just max merits.

80% return on 100 test:
Test case: expend 100 ammo and then scavenge with Orion socks and 5/5 Scavenge effect merits.

Test is to verify if it is a flat return of 80% w 5/5 + Orion Socks or if there is a scaling return as number expended increases or a possible flat cap.


100 Ammo expended (scavenge = 81)
POIDH:

Result=81%




after thought edit:

Appears that boots are not a flat 10%. Do fractions round down in FFXI math?

Guess that also means each scavenge merit is 10%, and base trait is 20%? Or possibly a base of 50% with each merit being a 4% increase?

Also, still need to test return rates on higher values to check for potential cap I.e is it possible to get 810 back on 1k arrows... which will be annoying due to recycle prolonging ammo use.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2013-11-26 20:04:51
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After reviewing some of Byrth's numbers from the base rate of scavenge, and being that 49% appears to be the base then the effect from Orion Socks is actually 7% based on the result of the 100 ammo test, going to finalize with a quick 100 and scavenge with full merits without boots.

Pending Edit for results: Confirmed 7%:

100 arrows expended, and then scavenged without boots @5/5 Scavenge Effect = 74.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2013-11-27 01:13:39
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Orion Bracers: Did Abyssea La'Theine while running scavenge test. All Barrages were done from 0TP.

Mob = MegaMaw Mikey:

16.7TP/shot. (Ajjub+Mantid Arrow).

1. DMG= 8636 83TP return (4.97 landed)
2. DMG= 5748 50TP return (2.99 landed)
3. DMG= 12410 133TP return (7.96 landed)
4. DMG= 13197 133TP return (7.96 landed)
5. DMG= 13001 133TP return (7.96 landed)

6. DMG= 14176 133TP return (7.96 landed)*

*Returned from crash, #6 was with just atmas (RR, SA, GH) no Attribute Buffs, full rng acc.

Switched to Piasa

7. DMG=15830 133TP return (7.96 landed)

will continue testing later given how many barrages are needed before seeing the +1 proc of regular hunter's bracers.

Last ditch before passing out:
MegaMaw Mikey

8. DMG=12348 133TP return (7.96 landed)

Piasa

9. DMG=17212 150TP return (8.98 landed)

10. DMG= 1243 16TP Return (1 shot landed)


Parker Edit:
was consistent 16.7TP/shot values have been edited for accuracy.

Tp Gain sequence:
0>16>33>50>66>83>100>116>133>150>>300

See post below for how error occurred and laugh, apologies:
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By Bismarck.Snprphnx 2013-11-27 01:31:27
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what /sub and store TP gear are you wearing?
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2013-11-27 01:42:41
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Bismarck.Snprphnx said: »
what /sub and store TP gear are you wearing?

Sorry not familiar with posting itemsets. Was /war. (did use Stout Arm, Razed Ruins, Gnarled Horn)

For the first 5
Aphotic Kukri Path A rank 10,Glinting Shield, Ajjub Bow, Mantid Arrow, Uk'uxkaj Cap, Ocachi gorget,
Moonshade Earring Aug= Range Acc+4/TP Bonus 25, Clearview Earring, Iuitl Vest, Orion Bracers, Raja's Ring, Pyrosoul Ring, Buquwik Cape, Scout's Belt, Nahtirah Trouser's, Orion Socks.

For the last 4
Hurlbat,Glinting Shield,Ajjub Bow,Mantid Arrow,Sylvan Gapette +2, Ocachi gorget, Moonshade Earring Aug= Range Acc+4/TP Bonus 25, Clearview Earring, Sylvan Caban +2, Orion's Bracers, Raja's Ring, Hajduk Ring, Lutian Cape, Scout's Belt, Nahtirah Trouser's ,Orion Socks.

Parker Edit: was 16.7TP per shot on both sets:
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By Bismarck.Snprphnx 2013-11-27 02:00:13
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unless i am missing something, i count 10 store TP in both sets, from Ocachi Gorget and Rajas. If that is the case, what is the deal with the varying TP return?
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2013-11-27 09:01:13
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Apparently it was 16.7tp/hit with both gear sets. I still don't understand why sometimes it would return 17TP and at other times 16TP. One would figure it would be consistently one value.

If I go by BGwiki info on Barrage where the last upgrade occurs at lvl 90 @ 7 Shots then it is +2 with hands.

And I just noticed the BGwiki on Barrage says Orion Bracers is +2 shot.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2013-11-27 09:08:34
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there is no varying tp return.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2013-11-27 09:41:01
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
there is no varying tp return.

You're right I went and did some more, and realized where I made my error.

It is a steady 16.7 TP/shot: TP gain went as:

0>16>33>50>66>83>100>116>133>150>>300

Where I derped was after Jishnu's Radiance I was getting left with 17TP. TP climb went:

17>34>51>68>85>101>>>300

I believe what I did was since I was drowsy at the time I started monitoring TP returns after having done a Jishnu's Radiance. So I "Potato'd" and have to go make some edits to those posts above and apologize to Snprphnx, everyone else and even myself for the confusion.

Parker Edit: I guess it still makes it 9 shots @150TP even though 150/16.7= 8.92?
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By Ramuh.Austar 2013-11-27 10:09:09
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16.7 * 9=150.3
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By Asura.Izilder 2013-11-28 10:39:04
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just finished 119 Anni yay me !

Also is Wildfire worth using on any SOA content?
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By Bismarck.Snprphnx 2013-11-28 11:17:39
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Asura.Izilder said: »
just finished 119 Anni yay me !

Also is Wildfire worth using on any SOA content?

maybe on Mastop to balance damage types
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By fractalvoid 2013-11-28 11:46:13
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Max dmg wildfire on mata and you could totally win the parse y0
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By Cerberus.Maeldiar 2013-11-30 20:02:31
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So i just started playing again a week ago and was off since January. I have a 99 annihilator and a 90 gandiva. I'm wondering which path I should go for my rng, shark xbow, the AH bow, or a surefire (AH gun currently unavailable). Planning to get my ilvl annihilator eventually but wanted something to hold me over till then. Also was told yoich 119 is now the supreme weapon which I can believe but I don't have the time or money to build a new relic.
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By fractalvoid 2013-11-30 20:05:41
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unlock jishnu's and use echidna's bow

99 annihi is ok for ceizak delve (the only delve you'll get invited to on rng) if you get preludes and use an acc set.
will do more dmg with JR/echidna's but having coronach is nice still
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By Odin.Celoria 2013-12-03 04:33:55
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Just started on my rng, I unlocked jishnu and will be buying an enchidna here in next couple of days, I know I need str earrings but since there is a severe lack of those on my server I went ahead with 2 dex+3 earrings for now. (no moonshade yet either)
Anyway my current ws set has

Using Ajjub Bow for now
Achiyalabopa Arrow
str 92+133
dex 100+109
agi 99+109 (unsure if agi mods the crit on ws though)
R. Attk +40
R. Acc +50
Attk +60 (unsure if this affects /ra)
Acc +45 (again unsure if this affects /ra)

light belt/gorget in build

Was doing 9.6k to mandy in ceizak battleground, however I am pretty sure i was only getting 1 arrow to hit considering the tp return in build and their lack of high hp.

I personally think that my ws build is fine however I would like to see a up to date tp build for rng/war with enchidna bow. I will be getting the that gear this coming week, pretty much stuck in skirmish gear for the moment. (not sure if skirmish beats much of the abyssea+2/relic +2 gear for rng.)
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By Bismarck.Snprphnx 2013-12-03 06:40:01
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Odin.Celoria said: »
Just started on my rng, I unlocked jishnu and will be buying an enchidna here in next couple of days, I know I need str earrings but since there is a severe lack of those on my server I went ahead with 2 dex+3 earrings for now. (no moonshade yet either)
Anyway my current ws set has

Using Ajjub Bow for now
Achiyalabopa Arrow
str 92+133
dex 100+109
agi 99+109 (unsure if agi mods the crit on ws though)
R. Attk +40
R. Acc +50
Attk +60 (unsure if this affects /ra)
Acc +45 (again unsure if this affects /ra)

light belt/gorget in build

Was doing 9.6k to mandy in ceizak battleground, however I am pretty sure i was only getting 1 arrow to hit considering the tp return in build and their lack of high hp.

I personally think that my ws build is fine however I would like to see a up to date tp build for rng/war with enchidna bow. I will be getting the that gear this coming week, pretty much stuck in skirmish gear for the moment. (not sure if skirmish beats much of the abyssea+2/relic +2 gear for rng.)

this set was posted on the last page. it seems to be the best currently.
ItemSet 316012
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By Odin.Celoria 2013-12-03 16:19:15
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Bismarck.Snprphnx said: »
Odin.Celoria said: »
Just started on my rng, I unlocked jishnu and will be buying an enchidna here in next couple of days, I know I need str earrings but since there is a severe lack of those on my server I went ahead with 2 dex+3 earrings for now. (no moonshade yet either)
Anyway my current ws set has

Using Ajjub Bow for now
Achiyalabopa Arrow
str 92+133
dex 100+109
agi 99+109 (unsure if agi mods the crit on ws though)
R. Attk +40
R. Acc +50
Attk +60 (unsure if this affects /ra)
Acc +45 (again unsure if this affects /ra)

light belt/gorget in build

Was doing 9.6k to mandy in ceizak battleground, however I am pretty sure i was only getting 1 arrow to hit considering the tp return in build and their lack of high hp.

I personally think that my ws build is fine however I would like to see a up to date tp build for rng/war with enchidna bow. I will be getting the that gear this coming week, pretty much stuck in skirmish gear for the moment. (not sure if skirmish beats much of the abyssea+2/relic +2 gear for rng.)

this set was posted on the last page. it seems to be the best currently.
ItemSet 316012

I mean tp build, that build is pretty close to what I use for my jishnu with the exception of bee pants and str earrings, (since I don't have bee win and str earrings are few and far between.)
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By Shiva.Onorgul 2013-12-03 17:40:04
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Since you mentioned it, melee Attack and Accuracy (as opposed to Ranged Attack and Accuracy) do not have any effect positive or negative on ranged attacks nor ranged weaponskills. Blast Shot, Blast Arrow, and Numbing Shot may be exceptions, but you'll never be using them. For that matter, Mistral Axe and Bora Axe are ranged attacks that use melee stats, but, again, not relevant. Also, AGI is used for ranged critical hit rate (including weaponskills) instead of DEX... in spite of Jishnu's Radiance being a DEX-based weaponskill (why, SE?).
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2013-12-03 18:39:03
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Odin.Celoria said: »
I mean tp build, that build is pretty close to what I use for my jishnu with the exception of bee pants and str earrings, (since I don't have bee win and str earrings are few and far between.)


I've been using this set for TP lately:
ItemSet 316342

Dont have augmented relic head+2 yet so I use AF3+2.

I tend to use aphotic kukri R15 Path A if I don't need the extra Acc.

For the legs Thurandaut tights +1 is a quick and easy stop gap.
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By Asura.Izilder 2013-12-05 02:27:33
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finally got to play with Anni last night .. 40k barrage on Bee.. i regret N O T H I N G
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By Phoenix.Dramatica 2013-12-05 02:34:10
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Our RNG did a 48k barrage on one of our first bee kills when it came out. :p
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By Asura.Izilder 2013-12-05 02:56:45
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still happy xd seeing regular shots up to 5k ish is cool too - shame rng don't have more events to shine at.

i like pew pew.
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By fractalvoid 2013-12-05 20:59:59
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Bismarck.Snprphnx said: »
this set was posted on the last page. it seems to be the best currently.
ItemSet 316012

Not sure if this has been covered but does 2nd Pyrosoul really beat Rajas?

Also someone mind posting a current Yoichi TP set?
Not sure if it's even worth trying to x-hit... I might just use same set I use for gun since I'll likely be meleeing anyway
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By Bismarck.Llewelyn 2013-12-05 22:23:43
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fractalvoid said: »
Also someone mind posting a current Yoichi TP set?
Not sure if it's even worth trying to x-hit... I might just use same set I use for gun since I'll likely be meleeing anyway
I don't really play RNG, but I'd probably use this if you don't mind ignoring enmity (not sure exactly how much Ratt is on AF3+2 body):

5-hit if at least 2/4 ranged attacks proc Recycle.

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Bismarck.Llewelyn said: »
fractalvoid said: »
Also someone mind posting a current Yoichi TP set?
Not sure if it's even worth trying to x-hit... I might just use same set I use for gun since I'll likely be meleeing anyway
I don't really play RNG, but I'd probably use this if you don't mind ignoring enmity (not sure exactly how much Ratt is on AF3+2 body):

5-hit if at least 2/4 ranged attacks proc Recycle.

ItemSet 316350

Nice, thanks for the fast reply. Isn't as bad to x-hit as I thought.

Need to get working on SKCNM I suppose. Have a feeling Orion and Sylvan+2 will be very close in terms of #s but I prefer the model for Orion anyhow.
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By Snapshot 2013-12-08 16:38:02
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Asura.Izilder said: »
still happy xd seeing regular shots up to 5k ish is cool too - shame rng don't have more events to shine at.

i like pew pew.


Jishnu Ranger can top parse all 3 fractures at the moment(/war NOT /sam). Its the new MNK. Still, there will always be people who are used to doing things they are familiar with.
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By Phoenix.Dramatica 2013-12-08 18:41:53
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lol, no.
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By Bismarck.Snprphnx 2013-12-08 19:08:16
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Last I saw, with full buffs, ranged attack is capped, so /war isn't needed. Then again, I haven't had the chance to go RNG to any boss runs in a long while.
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