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Fenrir.Sylow said: » Leviathan.Kincard said: » +70 stat as in when maneuvers are up, right? I still don't think that's going to fix the main problem with PUP. The Rigor Bagnakhs by themselves put PUP ahead of all other one-handers besides MNK My DNC is crying Your KKK's tears are mixing with those of your DNC's too, I bet! I'm really mostly annoyed that now I have to actually unlock Stringing Pummel in order to use it with the new H2H
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That got a very audible chortle out of me. Sorry :(
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Fenrir.Sylow said: » I'm really mostly annoyed that now I have to actually unlock Stringing Pummel in order to use it with the new H2H =/ It's like you're almost a real PUP! ;D Fenrir.Sylow said: » I'm really mostly annoyed that now I have to actually unlock Stringing Pummel in order to use it with the new H2H =/ I thought you couldn't complete a mythic without having the WS unlocked?
If I'm not mistaken they'll unlock the WS for you while you're fighting Balrahn so you'll still be able to beat him.
I think the weapon itself gives you the weapon skill too, if you don't have it unlocked. I vaguely remember a WHM getting up to balrahn fight and being unable to do it because they never unlocked Mystic boon, was a long time ago.
The "locked" version of the Mythic (no stats) you are given before the Balrahn BCNM does not unlock the WS (and the WS is not initially unlocked in the BCNM)
It unlocks the WS after Balrahn uses the Mythic WS on you for the first time though I passed on them, so I can't SS hehe. I already got the gkt and gaxe so letting others get em first, not being greedy here.
Drops off orobon anyhow if peeps were wondering. Guy said Str dex agi? were +83 with it, with cha int wis +70. High stats like that would *** with overloading wouldn't they though? But hey if those high stats let the robot actualy hit stuff sure it would be good. As long as you're alternating between more than one type of Maneuver overloading is nearly impossible
Bismarck.Faelar said: » oops >< no i didn't rly, didn't had the time, just skim real quick and saw this XD Oops XD anyways, still nice. herpa
 '~' not sure if this is better or worse than this one 
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Fenrir.Sylow said: » As long as you're alternating between more than one type of Maneuver overloading is nearly impossible Yes, essentially this is true, but burden is generated as a ratio of master:puppet stats ie Str/master:str/pup, the larger the difference the greater the burden. so in theory, beefing up the puppets stats that much(~+70) could actually create the overload problem that does not currently exist. Just playing devils advocate here lol. I don't believe it's a ratio?
I'm pretty sure it's just binary: you produce X amount of burden with stat lower than auto, Y amount with higher. Dark maneuver is calculated weird and generates less burden than any other maneuver. Yeah - it has nothing to do with the amount of stat - it's just 25% less burden when you have a higher stat than the automaton.
so is it not 25% more burden when you're below the amount? I could not really find any statistics on that
you generate less burden when your stat is higher, and as a result more when your stat is lower.
But it doesn't scale with the difference. The auto can have +1 stat over you or it can have +200 for the same effect. So as long as you are alternating maneuvers and using all of the threshold increasing gear you shouldn't have anything to worry about and if you are able to overload with dark maneuvers then you arr super talented Why are there still not pics of this? :(
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Cause I'm not a greedy *** and I passed the two we got. You just gotta believe! Not spending 30k on animator either lol. I wait till it drop again.
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macsdf1 said: » Cause I'm not a greedy *** and I passed the two we got. You just gotta believe! Not spending 30k on animator either lol. I wait till it drop again. It's 10k Gotta start saving my points for buying arlixirs and other stuff anyhow. Maybe it will cost 100k corpuscle to upgrade rems who knows right?
Easy kill and drop, so no reason to spend 30k pts, for me at least. Not much pups in the LS so will rot at some point. Fenrir.Sylow said: » you generate less burden when your stat is higher, and as a result more when your stat is lower. But it doesn't scale with the difference. The auto can have +1 stat over you or it can have +200 for the same effect. So as long as you are alternating maneuvers and using all of the threshold increasing gear you shouldn't have anything to worry about and if you are able to overload with dark maneuvers then you arr super talented Ragnarok.Zirael said: » Fenrir.Sylow said: » you generate less burden when your stat is higher, and as a result more when your stat is lower. But it doesn't scale with the difference. The auto can have +1 stat over you or it can have +200 for the same effect. So as long as you are alternating maneuvers and using all of the threshold increasing gear you shouldn't have anything to worry about and if you are able to overload with dark maneuvers then you arr super talented Shiva.Spathaian said: » Ragnarok.Zirael said: » Fenrir.Sylow said: » you generate less burden when your stat is higher, and as a result more when your stat is lower. But it doesn't scale with the difference. The auto can have +1 stat over you or it can have +200 for the same effect. So as long as you are alternating maneuvers and using all of the threshold increasing gear you shouldn't have anything to worry about and if you are able to overload with dark maneuvers then you arr super talented Ragnarok.Zirael said: » Shiva.Spathaian said: » Ragnarok.Zirael said: » Fenrir.Sylow said: » you generate less burden when your stat is higher, and as a result more when your stat is lower. But it doesn't scale with the difference. The auto can have +1 stat over you or it can have +200 for the same effect. So as long as you are alternating maneuvers and using all of the threshold increasing gear you shouldn't have anything to worry about and if you are able to overload with dark maneuvers then you arr super talented Whether that's the real explanation for it or not, it is fact that TP is lost when unequiping or switching animators. I can provide proof if need be but I don't feel it's needed. Shiva.Spathaian said: » Ragnarok.Zirael said: » Shiva.Spathaian said: » Ragnarok.Zirael said: » Fenrir.Sylow said: » you generate less burden when your stat is higher, and as a result more when your stat is lower. But it doesn't scale with the difference. The auto can have +1 stat over you or it can have +200 for the same effect. So as long as you are alternating maneuvers and using all of the threshold increasing gear you shouldn't have anything to worry about and if you are able to overload with dark maneuvers then you arr super talented Whether that's the real explanation for it or not, it is fact that TP is lost when unequiping or switching animators. I can provide proof if need be but I don't feel it's needed. You can swap from ranged to ammo without losing TP I believe (for PUP), but then you lose TP when you swap back to an animator. Anyone found out if you can augment Alternator yet? And is it the same as other weapon paths, or different?
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