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By Ragnarok.Harpunnik 2013-04-30 12:29:15
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When they said buff R/M/E,didnt they say they'd make them relevant again? Not make them top?

People seem to forget this

Relevant on a weapon means what? Probably that it can keep up with the new weapons yeah?

When was the last time crafted weapons we're considered top tier for most if not all jobs in ffxi?
 
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Quiznor said: »
When they said buff R/M/E,didnt they say they'd make them relevant again? Not make them top?

People seem to forget this

Relevant on a weapon means what? Probably that it can keep up with the new weapons yeah?

When was the last time crafted weapons we're considered top tier for most if not all jobs in ffxi?

"keep up" is nice and vague

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By Asura.Ina 2013-04-30 12:31:10
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Actually there is some demand for VW clears atm due to the returning players. It took me about 3 hours to gather enough players for one and that was with a bunch of people that joined and then left when we weren't filling up fast enough for them. Dynamis currency has been soloable forever now at I think 100-200 a run so you can get that done with out too much of an issue.

In about a month or 2 I'd say you will be even harder pressed to find anything other than HMP drop shouts though and even then they will be reduced in number.
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2013-04-30 12:35:28
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I'll stir you both up

I dont swing that way ash ;-;

I always knew you liked the blokes, Quizzy Poo ;3

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I'll stir you both up

I dont swing that way ash ;-;

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By Quiznor 2013-04-30 12:37:34
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Ragnarok.Harpunnik said: »
Quiznor said: »
When they said buff R/M/E,didnt they say they'd make them relevant again? Not make them top?

People seem to forget this

Relevant on a weapon means what? Probably that it can keep up with the new weapons yeah?

When was the last time crafted weapons we're considered top tier for most if not all jobs in ffxi?
Primate staff +1 was pretty damn rape top tier for staff meleeing back in the day, can't think of a lot else lol

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By Ragnarok.Harpunnik 2013-04-30 12:37:44
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Quiznor said: »
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Quiznor said: »
When they said buff R/M/E,didnt they say they'd make them relevant again? Not make them top?

People seem to forget this

Relevant on a weapon means what? Probably that it can keep up with the new weapons yeah?

When was the last time crafted weapons we're considered top tier for most if not all jobs in ffxi?

"keep up" is nice and vague


Not sure what is so vague about keep up. Keep up is 2 words unlike inconceivable. :p All I'm saying is people with relics we're crying when abyssea came out. I'd certainly say they "kept up" in a lot of case against the empys people cried about.
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By Ragnarok.Harpunnik 2013-04-30 12:39:05
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Bismarck.Josiahfk said: »
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Quiznor said: »
When they said buff R/M/E,didnt they say they'd make them relevant again? Not make them top?

People seem to forget this

Relevant on a weapon means what? Probably that it can keep up with the new weapons yeah?

When was the last time crafted weapons we're considered top tier for most if not all jobs in ffxi?
Primate staff +1 was pretty damn rape top tier for staff meleeing back in the day, can't think of a lot else lol

Hagun

Hagun was crafted? News to me. And I said most ^
 
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Quiznor said: »
Bismarck.Josiahfk said: »
Ragnarok.Harpunnik said: »
Quiznor said: »
When they said buff R/M/E,didnt they say they'd make them relevant again? Not make them top?

People seem to forget this

Relevant on a weapon means what? Probably that it can keep up with the new weapons yeah?

When was the last time crafted weapons we're considered top tier for most if not all jobs in ffxi?
Primate staff +1 was pretty damn rape top tier for staff meleeing back in the day, can't think of a lot else lol

Hagun
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By Quiznor 2013-04-30 12:40:01
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"keep up" (to me) means they'll perform at a level close to and not exceed these new weapons. Actually,close to and not exceed the initial SoA weapons,since thats when it was quoted for.
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Ragnarok.Harpunnik said: »
Quiznor said: »
Bismarck.Josiahfk said: »
Ragnarok.Harpunnik said: »
Quiznor said: »
When they said buff R/M/E,didnt they say they'd make them relevant again? Not make them top?

People seem to forget this

Relevant on a weapon means what? Probably that it can keep up with the new weapons yeah?

When was the last time crafted weapons we're considered top tier for most if not all jobs in ffxi?
Primate staff +1 was pretty damn rape top tier for staff meleeing back in the day, can't think of a lot else lol

Hagun

Hagun was crafted? News to me. And I said most ^

Meant AH'able,rather than crafted

and I saw that edit josi!

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sooooo many new weapons~

gotta collect them all D;
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VW shouts have been reduced to below 20% of the frequency they had prior to adoulin on my server. This was before SE obliterated the gear, good luck now.
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By Ragnarok.Harpunnik 2013-04-30 12:42:05
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Quiznor said: »
"keep up" (to me) means they'll perform at a level close to and not exceed these new weapons. Actually,close to and not exceed the initial SoA weapons,since thats when it was quoted for.

I'm pretty sure they said something similar before all 3 stages of abyssea expansions we're out.
 
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Ragnarok.Harpunnik said: »
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"keep up" (to me) means they'll perform at a level close to and not exceed these new weapons. Actually,close to and not exceed the initial SoA weapons,since thats when it was quoted for.

I'm pretty sure they said something similar before all 3 stages of abyssea expansions we're out.

Pretty sure they didnt leave it nice and vague like that. Link or it didnt happen though,till then kthx
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By Ragnarok.Harpunnik 2013-04-30 12:44:45
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Quiznor said: »
Ragnarok.Harpunnik said: »
Quiznor said: »
"keep up" (to me) means they'll perform at a level close to and not exceed these new weapons. Actually,close to and not exceed the initial SoA weapons,since thats when it was quoted for.

I'm pretty sure they said something similar before all 3 stages of abyssea expansions we're out.

Pretty sure they didnt leave it nice and vague like that. Link or it didnt happen though,till then kthx

Sure let me search all over the internet for you during my lunch break.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Makenshi 2013-04-30 12:45:11
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Ragnarok.Harpunnik said: »
When was the last time crafted weapons we're considered top tier for most if not all jobs in ffxi?
Other than the HQ elemental staves, maybe Death Scythe +1, and that Mamushito +1 stun katana as an offhand weapon off the top of my head; pretty much all the best weapons were not crafted back in earlier days of FFXI.
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By Quiznor 2013-04-30 12:46:17
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Ragnarok.Harpunnik said: »
Quiznor said: »
Ragnarok.Harpunnik said: »
Quiznor said: »
"keep up" (to me) means they'll perform at a level close to and not exceed these new weapons. Actually,close to and not exceed the initial SoA weapons,since thats when it was quoted for.

I'm pretty sure they said something similar before all 3 stages of abyssea expansions we're out.

Pretty sure they didnt leave it nice and vague like that. Link or it didnt happen though,till then kthx

Sure let me search all over the internet for you during my lunch break.

Or (sarcasm aside) you could use some common sense,and look at the mid 2010 dev updates~
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2013-04-30 12:48:56
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Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »
VW shouts have been reduced to below 20% of the frequency they had prior to adoulin on my server. This was before SE obliterated the gear, good luck now.

Implying VW hadn't boiled down to:

Qilin
Ig-Alima
Morta
Uptala

Getting anything outside these four meant doing a whole lotting beating the ground with your fist and hoping people are bored/desperate.
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By Ragnarok.Zeromega 2013-04-30 12:50:42
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Quiznor said: »
Ragnarok.Harpunnik said: »
Quiznor said: »
Bismarck.Josiahfk said: »
Ragnarok.Harpunnik said: »
Quiznor said: »
When they said buff R/M/E,didnt they say they'd make them relevant again? Not make them top?

People seem to forget this

Relevant on a weapon means what? Probably that it can keep up with the new weapons yeah?

When was the last time crafted weapons we're considered top tier for most if not all jobs in ffxi?
Primate staff +1 was pretty damn rape top tier for staff meleeing back in the day, can't think of a lot else lol

Hagun

Hagun was crafted? News to me. And I said most ^

Meant AH'able,rather than crafted

and I saw that edit josi!

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this is about as silly as the guy who keeps trying to convince my ls that theyre "merging" r/m/e to create the new legendary weapons

cata spam w/ oa2-3 go
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2013-04-30 12:50:47
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I just 8box all of my VW, I was only commenting on the frequency of shouts dropping drastically.

On that note, people could always bring coordinated LS groups of ~8 to any VW instead of demanding 18 in shout. Even easier with the new weapons. Not great for plate supply, though.
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By Quiznor 2013-04-30 12:52:04
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Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »
I just 8box all of my VW, I was only commenting on the frequency of shouts dropping drastically.

On that note, people could always bring coordinated LS groups of ~8 to any VW instead of demanding 18 in shout.

I wouldnt brag about that.....
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2013-04-30 12:53:23
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I wouldnt brag about that.....
i wouldnt spend 12 hours a day crying about everything ff does and desperately cling to the idea that relics will suck and you'll be able to be leet without spending large amounts of time on the game

fortunately everyone is entitled to do what they like with their time and money
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I wouldnt brag about that.....
i wouldnt spend 12 hours a day crying about everything ff does and desperately cling to the idea that relics will suck and you'll be able to be leet without spending large amounts of time on the game

fortunately everyone is entitled to do what they like with their time and money

Ah there it is,I said it earlier,inb4casual
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>cry like a casual about relics

>say inb4 casual

>directly insult someone

>act like the inb4 makes point less valid

covered everything, right? good, on with the thread
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By Ragnarok.Harpunnik 2013-04-30 12:55:39
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Quiznor said: »
Ragnarok.Harpunnik said: »
Quiznor said: »
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Quiznor said: »
"keep up" (to me) means they'll perform at a level close to and not exceed these new weapons. Actually,close to and not exceed the initial SoA weapons,since thats when it was quoted for.

I'm pretty sure they said something similar before all 3 stages of abyssea expansions we're out.

Pretty sure they didnt leave it nice and vague like that. Link or it didnt happen though,till then kthx

Sure let me search all over the internet for you during my lunch break.

Or (sarcasm aside) you could use some common sense,and look at the mid 2010 dev updates~

Send me a link and I can look, I've been playing this game for so long I don't even know when ***came out. Send me a link for neo-salvage and NNI too, all that gear became relevant as well. I think at this point you are too deep into the semantics of the word. Look at it from another angle. If the weapons do not surpass what is out now, why even bother jumping through whatever hoops SE will throw at us to if they won't surpass a crafted weapon? I'd imagine they learned their lesson from WoE...
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By Quiznor 2013-04-30 12:59:34
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Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »
>cry like a casual about relics

>say inb4 casual

>directly insult someone

>act like the inb4 makes point less valid

covered everything, right? good, on with the thread

hearty lolz were had,ty.

Ragnarok.Harpunnik said: »
Quiznor said: »
Ragnarok.Harpunnik said: »
Quiznor said: »
Ragnarok.Harpunnik said: »
Quiznor said: »
"keep up" (to me) means they'll perform at a level close to and not exceed these new weapons. Actually,close to and not exceed the initial SoA weapons,since thats when it was quoted for.

I'm pretty sure they said something similar before all 3 stages of abyssea expansions we're out.

Pretty sure they didnt leave it nice and vague like that. Link or it didnt happen though,till then kthx

Sure let me search all over the internet for you during my lunch break.

Or (sarcasm aside) you could use some common sense,and look at the mid 2010 dev updates~

Send me a link and I can look, I've been playing this game for so long I don't even know when ***came out. Send me a link for neo-salvage and NNI too, all that gear became relevant as well. I think at this point you are too deep into the semantics of the word. Look at it from another angle. If the weapons do not surpass what is out now, why even bother jumping through whatever hoops SE will throw at us to if they won't surpass a crafted weapon? I'd imagine they learned their lesson from WoE...

I'll hold off the wall of text and get back to the original point I was trying to make. If they were going to make them TOP TIER again,why did they say something vague? Maybe its their shitty communication skills,but personally when I read a non-definitive answer,I take it as "vague"
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