Endeavoring To Awaken --A Guide To Rune Fencer

Why would you want to take longer than needed to do something?

With the quote about them making mobs no longer "KILL IT, KILL IT RIGHT THE *** NOW" perhaps. But if the new mobs are just that but now with magic abilities that dream dies. Also if everything still has the 30min time restraint then any real dream of tanking beyond wipe control also dies. Chances are the new HNMs will probably have a rage timer.

Honestly if they wanted to make "traditional" tanking worth a damn from PLD the devs would allow it to drain enmity from the entire alliance with abilities if we're still using the current way enmity works(well aware of the update). A more productive means to make classic tanking viable is to overhaul the whole damn enmity system. That is not happening ever I imagine.

garunteed victory. Or you know, because it has to be done that way or you will wipe. Or hey, feeling like your at 75 again (like most asked for).

Point being, ***changed a bit and you are talking from the point where we didnt need tanks because they were "useless". Now, they may not be "useless" anymore but the mindset still continues that we can zerg the *** down even if we cant.


Yea, my little tanking rant depends highly on that. But, what is also awesome about that..is you can zerg...but you can zerg smarter too...you know, ensuring survival but still killing relatively quickly.

Do you even play this game anymore?

Everything u just listed is horribly wrong. Defense is an incrediably poor mitigator of damage unless its in large quantities. And by large i dont mean the pitiful amount that PLD gets.

Incase you havent noticed DDs tank everything right now. Nothing SE has published so far will change that. They will still ride berserk and last resort, WHMs will still cure them with nearly free curagas. The monsters will still die.

U must still be in shock from finding out that nothing will change. You should find a support group and talk about it. I will feel good to share your dissapointment and anguish with others rather then living in denial. Denial isnt healthy for you.

From recent memory the only "smart" zerg I've seen by your standards would probably be HP% triggered "alliance death wave motion cannon" attacks. In which case instead of getting a pld/run/nin/wtfever people just buff up defensively thus making the "tank" worthless in every regard since by that point most likely a DD will have already taken and maintained their hate.

EDIT: oh and doing a fight with HP triggered wipaga moves isn't fun/exciting/challenging its *** gimmicky. Rather than cause players to step back and consider all the cards most veterans will just say "hold dmg here and have the blm nuke it after the ally has run out of range of the cheapdeathfailmove" like Citadel Buster. I remember tanking that ***at 75 on pld and the only reason I was tanking it is because of the ridiculous amount of PDT it had on top of that move. Otherwise the fight had no real substance and the only strat aside SC+MB+DOTs was to dmg it until it hit those oh so wonderful hp% thresholds.

"Right Now" isnt yesterday. PLD has far more defense than a DRK and has access to pretty much alot of DEF abilities. sure, DD's will ride Berserk and LAst Resort and Souleater, but they will be in twilight mail faster than *** all and zombieing ***too.

But yea, tactics is fairly a hard concept to grab for a simple person wielding a greatsword. But try it, it works wonders.

Im just going to stop replying on this matter here. Because now you are being *** combative. And honestly, shits not going to change even when it has.

Holy ***, this thread....

Anyway, evasion tanking not gunna work: continue.

And: I may be eyeballing it, but does rune enspell damage go up with higher weapon base damage?

Completely untrue. Its obvious u dont even play anymore. PLD had about 50~60 more defense then a DRK. They both have the same gear. There is a really good reason people ignore defense and it had nothing to do with the old 2.0 cap. Nothing had changed that will change the status quot.

Nothing I have said is untrue. Its the raw situation of the game as of today. Fairy dust and unicorn farts do not change the mechanics server side. If you feel uncomfortable hearing the truth then the problem lies between your ears.

Whater sir, move on.

Here's an actual RUN question -_-... Hec cap+1. Is it really only pulling ahead because of the augments of DA+ on it over Nemetona Cap?

This was a real srs bsns question ;A;

That's something you can easily go out and test in 5m though.

It looks like Rune Fencer is more about the Multi-attack damage. DA/TA/QA even. It's bound to get pretty intense considering it can use various tp gear with tons of DA and TA on it.

This may have een already answered and I just can't find it... but I thought runes stacked like steps do, or was I mistaken? Because its doesnt seem to be doing that, or is based on level? I'm only level 10 so far.

yes it's been answered, after a certain level you can stack 2, then you can triple stack. Also the answer to your question is in the OP with specific level break downs.....

edited OP to add more things

Also Taru Taru sash for th if you were to use that

Should we really be using Lnge in ENM- gear :<

Depends if RUN turns out to be a dps/support job or a tank job, I guess.

Would the Sigyn Mask be good for tp? Dropping 1% haste and the 4STP from skadi+1 (and w/e crit bonus) for 2TA be worth it?

RUN has a lot of interesting tools available as a subjob!

i bet with AF the number of max runes will increase. I can see them going 5 with the other 2 added on from gear. 3 just seems kinda low for me, idk why.


edit- did they ever say if RUN+GEO will have any AF3 from abyssea?

Yeah they will. We've even seen artwork of what's possibly the empyrean armor of RUN and GEO. GEO gets the funny hat from FF5.

Dear SE,


I noticed you forgot to give RUN Temper. So go ahead and do that in the next update. -Taereon.

I love this job!

I need proof that SE says they're going to get that design for AF3. . . I personally thought it would just be some sort of JSE gear.

/sigh time to learn to dat mod.

The best part is, the class is in it's infancy. So I can only imagine how much more refined and developed it will become down the line.

This is one of the few cases where I'd agree to give some of RDM's native self buffs to another job. RUN's design seems to be a melee that enhances itself while dealing elemental damage and reducing incoming elemental damage. So I can see Temper / Gain-Stat type stuff fitting in.