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 Asura.Crevox
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By Asura.Crevox 2015-02-20 11:14:53
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After many duskorbs, I finally got a Blood Pact augment.

I used a Duskorb +1 and got...

!!!
BP damage +1
!!!

Exciting.

Then I used another and got BP Dmg +7.

Yay.
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By Phoenix.Rumblepakk 2015-02-20 15:11:49
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Acacia said: »
So basically Helios is best in slot for everything now. Yay! I've always wanted to redo all of my sets with random augment gear. I was so sad when I didn't have any more Hagondes to make.

... I'm going back to Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate now.

Edit: I'm done, dropped Nirvana, calling GM to ban my account.

Bye felicia
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By Asura.Sechs 2015-02-20 15:29:35
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Not sure body can be better than 11% BP damage, it might if you factor like 8% BP damage and 20MAB maybe?
But Feet and Body helios are the weakest of the group.

Hands, Head and especially Legs on the other hand are quite insane...
Too bad for the randomness of augments sigh.
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By Pantafernando 2015-02-20 15:44:02
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Acacia said: »
So basically Helios is best in slot for everything now. Yay! I've always wanted to redo all of my sets with random augment gear. I was so sad when I didn't have any more Hagondes to make.

... I'm going back to Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate now.

Edit: I'm done, dropped Nirvana, calling GM to ban my account.

I dont suport this, but you could just sell your account. At least could make some real cash money.

I just see this as, idk... waste?
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By Asura.Highwynn 2015-02-20 15:50:36
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Acacia said: »
So basically Helios is best in slot for everything now. Yay! I've always wanted to redo all of my sets with random augment gear. I was so sad when I didn't have any more Hagondes to make.

... I'm going back to Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate now.

Edit: I'm done, dropped Nirvana, calling GM to ban my account.

At what point did you think Hagondes would be the ultimate gear for smn. This why i tell ppl to just try to get good enough stats with +1 stones. :/

This is an mmo, nothing is liable to be future proof.
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By Ragnarok.Garota 2015-02-20 16:01:18
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I'm curious if a pair of Hagondes Sabots with a total Pet: MAB+50 beats new Helios Boots with BP: Damage+7 Pet: MAB+25 Double Attack+8 for Flaming Crush. Using those Helios stats since there haven't been any reported higher numbers.
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By Pantafernando 2015-02-20 16:05:11
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Tbf, i would be perfectly fine if i needed just to augment stuffs. Augmenting is actually just a test of pocket. The more cash you produces everyday, more trivial is buying stones. Better yet, just farm your own stones.

People cant forget some progress was done to reduce the random factor and, while still small improvement, at least now we have some control what stats will be rolled, what stones will drop, and what stat to erase or not, so the new system is better than first, second and third skirmish.

Honestly what i cant stand more are those mythic quests. Farming tokens everyday is driving me crazy. I want to do new skirmish, but stupid npc always says i have 4 tags, and thats 2,5h just doing that ***...
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By Acacia 2015-02-20 16:06:28
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Pantafernando said: »
I dont suport this, but you could just sell your account. At least could make some real cash money.

I just see this as, idk... waste?
Well I didn't play the game because I was expecting some financial gain. I played because I enjoyed it and so I got what I payed for.
Asura.Highwynn said: »
At what point did you think Hagondes would be the ultimate gear for smn. This why i tell ppl to just try to get good enough stats with +1 stones. :/

This is an mmo, nothing is liable to be future proof.
I never expected Hagondes to last forever, I'm just bored of the random augment grind. I'm not upset, I just don't really care any more and there's no point in playing if I'm not having fun.
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By Siren.Noxzema 2015-02-21 03:30:18
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MAB aug was off a +1 stone (followed by a 10, then a 5...)
BP dmg was off a NQ Dusk (My +2 gave me a whole +9 CHR ftw!).
And Crit was off a +1, my +2 I think gave me a DA+8.
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By Phoenix.Rumblepakk 2015-02-21 10:54:42
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Just got these..




bye bye spurrina gages.

I wish the BP delay would be a new tier of BP delay rather than the old. Still pretty cool to have though.
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By Cerberus.Avalon 2015-02-21 12:15:43
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Phoenix.Rumblepakk said: »
Just got these..




bye bye spurrina gages.

I wish the BP delay would be a new tier of BP delay rather than the old. Still pretty cool to have though.

Super sexy hands.
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By Asura.Sechs 2015-02-21 13:06:06
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You already tested that BP- delay to be BP1?
It might be BP2. Saying because Gifts say BP-5 hinting at BP1 whereas it's BP2.
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By Phoenix.Rumblepakk 2015-02-21 13:11:34
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I just got +4 BP damage augmented on the helios head peice.


Does anyone know if BP damage+ has a cap? Because if my math is correct, my gear all together (so far) adds up to +83 BP damage.

Nirvana = +40
Helios Band = +4
+1 Convoker's Doublet = +12
Conveyence Cape = +5
Helios gloves = +7
Helios spats = +6
+1 Convoker's Pigaches = +6
Esper Earring = +3
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By Lunareticc 2015-02-21 13:20:02
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My Augment for the moment:



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By Ragnarok.Garota 2015-02-21 13:22:23
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That's your total so far? Sick. I'm not sure if there is a hard cap to total BP Dmg. However, at the moment BP+7 seems like it may be the cap for augments on Helios items. I have not read anybody reporting higher than 7 yet. Therefore, the current max achievable may be BP+94.

Nirvana = +40
Helios Band = +7
Convoker's Doublet +1 = +12
Helios Gloves = +7
Helios Spats = +13
Helios Boots = +7
Conveyence Cape = +5
Esper Earring = +3

BTW those are some pretty sick augments so far, Lunareticc. :) With ideal augments, the Unity Ranking bonuses from Shomonjijoe +1 became immediately obsolete.
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By Asura.Crevox 2015-02-21 13:36:26
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Getting the BP damage is the hard part. Getting the rest of it is quite easy (especially the leaforb augments). It's kinda rare and duskorbs are rare/expensive. It's just luck.

I'm still purposely passing on good Dbl.Atk. rolls. The crit rate should be far better and leaforbs are all over the place.
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By Ragnarok.Luloo 2015-02-21 14:08:38
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Hey guys just got a pb recast II -3 on cape but unfortunately just a +1 bp damage? Shall i invest more money or argochamsa is good enough?
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By Phoenix.Rumblepakk 2015-02-21 14:19:43
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Ragnarok.Luloo said: »
Hey guys just got a pb recast II -3 on cape but unfortunately just a +1 bp damage? Shall i invest more money or argochamsa is good enough?

I have 3 conveyence capes right now. One with BPII-3, one with BPdmg+5, and one with an addition +5 skill. I'm going to try getting a higher skill on that last one, and then eventually ill try getting a decent augment with max BP dmg and skill. But for now im using 3 different ones for different reasons.

Ragnarok.Garota said: »
That's your total so far? Sick.

Yep. I'm really happy and I'm actually kind of scared that i'm going to turn into a monster smn lmao xD
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By Asura.Crevox 2015-02-22 05:56:35
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A boon of blood.




All usable within the blood pact ward set, perfectly actually, sitting at 500 skill. If I was lacking skill, I could augment those with Duskorbs for summoning skill.

If you want to get fancy, you can use this to accomplish two things at once, and even save some more MP:



Or you could do this (proof of concept, really bad snow roll):



And, since everyone is posting their Flaming Crush sets, I suppose I'll share mine:



Am I doing it right?
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By Ragnarok.Garota 2015-02-22 06:49:10
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Pretty good question I found on BG.
dasva;6357149 said:
Curious does anyone know if they test server is still usable to help test these?

Also curious, has anybody tried any Pet Augments on Telchine yet? And a Duskorb on Keraunos?
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By Asura.Crevox 2015-02-22 06:49:35
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Test server got taken down a while ago due to the shift into the new update schedule of once per month.

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While it has proven integral in connecting the development team with adventurers across the world, we have shifted focus since October of last year to providing more frequent version updates, regrettably rendering the test server neglected. Thus, on July 21, 2014, the test server shall be shut down for an indeterminate amount of time.

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By Ragnarok.Garota 2015-02-22 10:44:56
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My buddy's bragging to me that he augmented some Elemental Siphon on his Telchine.
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By Lunareticc 2015-02-22 11:03:22
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Yes, Siphon on Telchine. Got +30 on Legs.
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By Cerberus.Avalon 2015-02-22 11:31:54
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Lunareticc said: »
Yes, Siphon on Telchine. Got +30 on Legs.

What stone for elemental siphon?
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By Lunareticc 2015-02-22 11:34:45
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In memory, Leafslit. Not Sure
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By Cerberus.Avalon 2015-02-22 11:37:33
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Lunareticc said: »
In memory, Leafslit. Not Sure

Okay, thanks.
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By Asura.Crevox 2015-02-22 12:10:44
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I thought it was Leafdim for siphon?
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By Cerberus.Avalon 2015-02-22 12:15:51
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Ragnarok.Garota said: »
Pretty good question I found on BG.
dasva;6357149 said:
Curious does anyone know if they test server is still usable to help test these?

Also curious, has anybody tried any Pet Augments on Telchine yet? And a Duskorb on Keraunos?

I'm definitely going to play around with my Keraunos and try to get BP+7 Pet:MAB+30 etc.
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By Asura.Crevox 2015-02-22 12:35:41
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With the new BP augments on armor, Balsam/Keraunos pulls up close again to Nirvana. I tested and they were literally 14 damage apart, Nirvana being higher, and I have a lot of BP dmg on my armor now.

If you can get a Keraunos with 121MATK+ or BP dmg then it should beat Nirvana for magical pacts. Nirvana should still have a lot more macc though.

Edit: Elemental Siphon is confirmed to Leaforbs, ONLY on Telchine.
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By Ragnarok.Garota 2015-02-22 15:12:04
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Awesome. Thanks for the confirmation. I haven't been online to play for a while now, but at least I get to play vicariously through you guys.
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