December 12, 2012 Version Update

- Meebles has a few good pieces.
- Odin v2 is crap.
- Neo-Omega has one or two useful pieces (body and legs).
- Neo-Ultima has ~5 (but no one cares because lolmages).
- Provenance has a good WS body for a few jobs, decent R/Ex hand armor, a decent belt for some stuff, an overvalued helm, and a shitty drop rate on Meteor/Arise.
You can expect each Provenance rotation to be a painful 2 hours on my server and the drop rate of most of these items is ~6% with TH. Considering you're lotting against an alliance (for the non-italicized ones), most of the time that's a <1% chance to get whichever one you comment.

Neo-NI was the last really rewarding event and it was released on February 13th.

And that explains the exodus.

It's an MMO with a half rotten carrot on the end of its stick. Why bother chasing it

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Well 14's carrot is being flash frozen for use at a later date... lol

There's plenty of fresh carrots that I've had no issues chasing, and have actually had fun doing so. Hopefully FFXI becomes one of those again.

Have been very much enjoying GW2 in my limited free time. Plenty of things to do over there, and I never actually feel like I'm grinding as much as actually playing the game. That's how all games should feel..

There's also TOR going FTP, which, despite it having many failings on the MMO side of things, the RPG side of it is good to eat up 40+ hours of your time.

Only problem with SWTOR is that it's basically mandatory to put down a decent amount of money every 20~ days just to be able to play the game if you aren't going for the full sub fee. I wouldn't really play it expecting much more than the storyline either, it's basically a cooperative KotoR

Thats not really the only problem with SWTOR but yeah, its the main one.

SWTOR F2P* :C my bad. I played it for like a month when it came out and felt like I beat the game, afaik they've added a whole lot of nothing since then. :\

Hoping Blade & Soul is Buy to Play like GW2 as current rumors suggest. I really like being able to just buy the game and never feel obligated to throw money at the dev team again, unless I really want something out of the cash shop or want to support them and I've got a little extra cash. Has to be a good cash shop too, GW2's is basically perfect, nothing but luxuries (EXP boosts etc.) and cosmetics in there.

Something like TERA though, get the *** outta here. You want me to pay $15 a month AND pay you $10 for a weapon skin that I can only use ONCE on ONE of my characters? And $25 for a horse? Eat a ***.

Pretty much. I had fun with TOR (There seemed to have been a massive hate wagon for the game for some reason though), but it was clearly not ready for primetime because ignoring the pretty standard MMO technical flaws the game had, the biggest problem was that it had no meaningful content updates post-launch. There's no way you're holding onto your playerbase that way. GW2 has had several major patches since its launch and that game doesn't even cost a monthly fee.

Still, since the game is F2P now, I don't see any reason to not at least check it out and have fun with the storyline, especially if you are a fan of KOTOR.

Yea I'm with this. For all we know you'll only be able to do one of the version each day and itll have the same drop rate's. Meaning the only additional alex will come from people or groups who are purely going in there for the gear (and then lets hope farming gear indirectly gets them a lot of alex, in a lot of cases with current salvage zones, getting gear means skipping alex), meaning a very finite time - once the gear gets outdated or everyone has most of what they want that new source is gone.

You still go from virtually no one doing salvage to lots of people doing salvage. And the either/or per day restriction is beneficial to the longevity of the event, because people will need base armor.

This is actually not true, the bulk of the alex that comes from a run drop from the same things that drop equipment anyway. It's true you can get quite a bit extra from killing gears and ramparts, but I've never had the alex from that take up more than maybe a third of the total alex I farm per run, so even if I skipped them all I'd still get a respectable amount of alex.

Hopefully they'll be consistent with that in neo salvage.

Most of my reluctance to submit that alex will be dropping heavily in price is that the relative value of alex has increased beyond just a shortage of supply. Mythics are, arguably, actually worth making now, at 75 that was not truly the case and thus alex was never "valuable".

Of course, this is a community whose economy is run primarily by morons who will undercut by 3k just because they want to sell it NOW instead of in 10 minutes, so value doesn't hold much sway after a little while.

The increase in Alex price has definitely been accompanied by an increase in farmers, though. I know about ten people that DC themselves in to do one or two salvage runs per a day. Then again, Lakshmi's Alex prices seem about 3k each below the average (17k each could buy me something like 10,000 Alexandrite in PJ right now).

Speaking of NMs, based on what Byrth posted earlier:


It seems that them repeating the Neo Limbus idea is present (New set of armor + upgrades for old armor) since that about double the amount of NMs present in the old salvage, unless they want to spread the equipment even more thin than it already was. Hopefully all those will drop cotton at a respectable rate.

Hopefully SE has a better idea pertinent towards "supplying alexandrite to the economy" than they did in regards to NNI.

actually one could argue that NNI is the perfect argument against why anyone should have hope neo salvage will salvage (lolol) their chances of doing a mythic

Except they essentially said that NNI wasn't meant to fix the alex supply problem, it was just a temporary bonus to hold people over until the salvage update.

One could argue that, but you'd have to be pretty stupid to do it.

Can add Legion to that list of course, as well as Neo-Salvage coming up.

While I think the arbitrary lockouts on certain events could definitely decrease, they have at least attempted to add a fair bit of content this year. Much more than the dry years in WoTG. If the lockouts were all of a sudden lifted tomorrow, you wouldn't be cramming every single event into your daily schedule. There simply wouldn't be time.

Again, this is separate and distinct from the flaws people have about the content such as difficulty and low drop rate. One other glaring issue is that there are too many events with only ~10-20% useful items, so people tend to cap out quickly.

And as a side note, don't do Prov Watcher in PUGs if you can help it. Anything over 2 hours is insane, and /seacom PUGs don't generally work for events with 1-2 worthwhile drops and a full alliance attending.

I don't understand Nynja's complaint about the lack of content, but I would agree with complaints about quality of content.

While many people do consider WOTG to be a failure in terms of garnering interest from most of the hardcore endgame players, it's clear that there's a lot of details in the campaign system people never really tried to figure out, because there's just no reason to- you can just mindlessly join in on battles wherever you see them and get pretty much all the "worthwhile" rewards out of campaign so there was never a reason to really organize and find out what all the nation stats and weekly reports actually did, nor do I think it'd be realistic to actually figure it out on a live server.

ANNMs/Fay Weapons were pretty typical BC-ish things they add in pretty much every expansion.

SCNMs, while having pretty marginal rewards, did introduce some pretty interesting NMs to fight.

Compare that to what we've had recently. Odin v2 and Neo Limbus are just rehashed versions of existing content. They don't even really have any new moves. That being called shiny new content is a bit lame, IMO.

Voidwatch would be a lot more interesting from a gameplay perspective if the entire system wasn't designed around locking out the opponent's moves entirely (Staggers/fanatic's). I don't even know why they bothered programming AI onto the damn things.

Meebles is the first actual content they've put out in the last few years. I do like it overall.


Meh, mostly being facetious...though honestly that sounds about as believable to me as their excuse that they originally set Alexandrite at 50k because they didn't want people finishing the weapon yet (Because you'd totally add something onto the live servers if you didn't want people finishing it).

I was commenting on recent content only, and I did back up my statements. I do Meebles, it actually has decent loot that can be done with a small group, I just dislike the 5 day lockout for such a short event.

It's not a lot of content if you're comparing with other games on the market, but it's actually pretty consistent with what they've done in the past, as far as how much play you actually get out of it.

It looks like the PD / Embrava nerf was postponed to coincide the release of the new SP abilities.


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