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[Dev] Resting Adjustments
 Leviathan.Syagin
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By Leviathan.Syagin 2012-09-06 09:07:21
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Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »
Am I the only person who thinks we don't need auto regen/refresh while disengaged? We already have a wealth of regen items to idle in, and the state of the game atm means most players do have idle sets. Shortening weakness is an interesting idea, but it may be difficult to implement without stealing arise(which is still 20m+ in general)'s awesomeness or becoming unbalanced.
I'd have to agree on the weaked idea because when i do beseiged the timer has been lowered and I think that one of the best things I have seen them add in the game. hell at least reduce the weake timer in timed events.
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By Valentine 2012-09-06 09:45:41
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Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »
Am I the only person who thinks we don't need auto regen/refresh while disengaged? We already have a wealth of regen items to idle in, and the state of the game atm means most players do have idle sets. Shortening weakness is an interesting idea, but it may be difficult to implement without stealing arise(which is still 20m+ in general)'s awesomeness or becoming unbalanced.

Let's say -50% on weakness time.

Normal weakness 5mins > 2,5mins.

arise's awesomeness 3mins > 1,5mins.

#totally worth finding a safe place to rest.

EDIT: try to find a safe spot into legion ;p
Or while fighting/wiping to Botulus Rex >0
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By Cerberus.Keeo 2012-09-06 10:32:03
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• Swift Shoes: /heal will temporarily grant a quickening effect. Resting longer will increase the potency and duration of this effect.

Why not add something like this but gives refresh and regen higher potency the longer you have rested.
It seems to me the system is almost set up for it.
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By Asura.Tot 2012-09-06 11:22:07
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last time i /healed for MP was in a pudding party on blm 75.

if you need to /heal for MP now, just stop playing mage and try out some DD`
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By Asura.Chexmix 2012-09-06 11:35:36
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Haven't been this excited to hear about a healing adjustment since they made it where galkas and mithras rest with their eyes open.

Also will Tarus be excluded since we don't "take a knee" when resting :|
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By Asura.Calatilla 2012-09-06 19:53:06
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Asura.Tot said: »
last time i /healed for MP was in a pudding party on blm 75.

if you need to /heal for MP now, just stop playing mage and try out some DD`
I wouldn't go that far, its still possible to run out of mp. If you do nothing but Abyssea or Voidwatch or events with lots of outside refresh, you`ll never run out. Doing things on your own such as trials that cant be done inside Abyssea, you'll run out of MP.
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By Siren.Demetreos 2012-09-06 20:09:38
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I seldom run out of MP these days, but I still have a hMP set for WHM or BLM.

Some people need to learn to manage MP, but saying hMP sets are useless these days is a little ott.
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By Asura.Bitesized 2012-09-06 20:11:04
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hMP sets are a pain to carry when your trying to gear multiple jobs at least decently and manage a high level craft.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-09-06 20:41:05
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Asura.Calatilla said: »
Asura.Tot said: »
last time i /healed for MP was in a pudding party on blm 75.

if you need to /heal for MP now, just stop playing mage and try out some DD`
I wouldn't go that far, its still possible to run out of mp. If you do nothing but Abyssea or Voidwatch or events with lots of outside refresh, you`ll never run out. Doing things on your own such as trials that cant be done inside Abyssea, you'll run out of MP.


Not if you're a WHM.
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By Sylph.Shipp 2012-09-10 03:06:10
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Asura.Calatilla said: »
Asura.Tot said: »
last time i /healed for MP was in a pudding party on blm 75.

if you need to /heal for MP now, just stop playing mage and try out some DD`
I wouldn't go that far, its still possible to run out of mp. If you do nothing but Abyssea or Voidwatch or events with lots of outside refresh, you`ll never run out. Doing things on your own such as trials that cant be done inside Abyssea, you'll run out of MP.
/rdm and problem is (just about) solved. Refresh + convert should greatly negate the need to rest, unless you're spamming -ja spells back to back on BLM.

Edit: To clarify the use of -ja spells like Thundaja on BLM and not Job Abilities.
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2012-09-10 03:24:30
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If only BRD could give more than a measly 21/tick. It's outrageous, we need another 60/tick while resting.
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By Lakshmi.Aelius 2012-09-10 04:15:11
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Cerberus.Keeo said: »
Super Kupower
• Swift Shoes: /heal will temporarily grant a quickening effect. Resting longer will increase the potency and duration of this effect.

Why not add something like this but gives refresh and regen higher potency the longer you have rested.
It seems to me the system is almost set up for it.

I believe resting already works like this for hp/mp regain. We just don't get an icon from it.
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By Sylph.Shipp 2012-09-10 05:02:25
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Lakshmi.Aelius said: »
Cerberus.Keeo said: »
Super Kupower
• Swift Shoes: /heal will temporarily grant a quickening effect. Resting longer will increase the potency and duration of this effect.

Why not add something like this but gives refresh and regen higher potency the longer you have rested.
It seems to me the system is almost set up for it.

I believe resting already works like this for hp/mp regain. We just don't get an icon from it.

I'm fairly sure Keeo is talking about giving a regen/refresh effect that stays for about 1-3 minutes after standing up from resting, potency obviously decided by how long your were /healing in the first place.

We definitely do not have that at the moment, and it would be a welcome change. Or like someone said earlier in the thread, resting while weakened could reduce the weakened timer. However, knowing SE's standards, I'm sure it would be a -1 minute weakened while /healing 4 minutes. Would be nice to shave off 3 minutes of weakened while resting for 2 minutes though. I don't think that's even all that unreasonable at this stage of the game's life.
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By Valefor.Flameblade 2012-09-10 06:43:10
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I think /healing for say about 30 seconds to a minute should give you a small regen/refresh and it should wear off 10 seconds after your stand ^^ that sounds balanced to me
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By Cerberus.Keeo 2012-09-10 06:50:32
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Lakshmi.Aelius said: »
Cerberus.Keeo said: »
Super Kupower • Swift Shoes: /heal will temporarily grant a quickening effect. Resting longer will increase the potency and duration of this effect. Why not add something like this but gives refresh and regen higher potency the longer you have rested. It seems to me the system is almost set up for it.
I believe resting already works like this for hp/mp regain. We just don't get an icon from it.

Yeah but what if even after resting based on the time you rested you keep regen refresh even when standing like you do with kupower swift shoes.
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By Bahamut.Bojack 2012-09-10 06:55:05
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I think what they should do is make the resting mechanic kind of like pets on BST when you use Stay. First tick starts at 3-4%~ then every tick afterwards is 1% more than the last. Either that or just have every tick a flat percentage somewhere between 5-10%. I say percentage so when you have 3-4k HP in abyssea it would be the same speed. Not to mention you could technically make a Max HP build for increasing HP per tick while resting. They should also start the ticks sooner, even 5 seconds after you start resting.
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By Valentine 2012-09-10 07:08:06
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Asura.Tot said: »
last time i /healed for MP was in a pudding party on blm 75.

if you need to /heal for MP now, just stop playing mage and try out some DD`

what event are you talking about? Legion? Voidwatch? Abyssea?

I'll say again most of events nowdays are designed for level 90- except some new events for level 99. If you're talking /heal is useless I hope you have enough MP for future events.
By Achira 2012-09-10 07:56:47
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I have all my sets as optimized as possible- so needing one less set to carry around would be nice.
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By Jetackuu 2012-09-10 08:13:54
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