rdm is still relevant in the fact that VW no longer locks your merits into having all spells for procs. Now you can para2 slow2 5/5 again or dia 3 if you so choose and use it outside of VW/aby. New content will see a ton of strong mobs and I'm thinking a good para/slow build will be extremely useful.
See that's the main issue. They have always made HNMS immune or extremely resistant to slow and/or para and other spells. Maybe if they don't make new HNMs, etc like that, RDM will be good again in that set up.
But there are only so many slots to go around, and will have to wait to see if a geomancer would be worth bringing over a BRD, COR etc.
If GEO buffs are worth a damn you'll be stacking COR/BRD/GEO together for maximum buffage.
"adequately" =/= potency of merited spells. again. it's not going to be the same potency. it'll probably just be para 1 or 1.5 (like how jutsu t2 is "1.5" of that debuff, since overwritted by the T2 of that debuff (see hojo:ni vs slow 2))
geo para/slow will stack with others... They said all the geo abilities don't count as spell/song/roll, so why would the debuffs be different? Not to mention they aren't going to be the potency of merited spells. come on now.
If Geo can do the job adequately, why waste a slot. We also know nothing about GEO's merits.
Yeah, if Geo can para and slow, why bring a RDM to stack with them when you could bring another support job to give more haste, attack, etc?
Its late so I dont know if thats sarcasm or not, but yeah, say you have 2 slots for a support class, one of them is going to be a GEO, cuz everyone is going to want to play it, the other is going to be which: BRD, COR, or RDM? Thats not a hard question to answer.
See that's the main issue. They have always made HNMS immune or extremely resistant to slow and/or para and other spells. Maybe if they don't make new HNMs, etc like that, RDM will be good again in that set up.
Thus GEO/RDM? Perhaps they are attempting to make RDM at least subjob worth or... RDM/GEO... who knows the benefits until we know what traits and abilities are at what lvls.
I think RDM already has uses as a sub. If the development team is more worried about making a job useful as a sub rather then making them useful as a main job, we have a pretty big issue then.
rdm is still relevant in the fact that VW no longer locks your merits into having all spells for procs. Now you can para2 slow2 5/5 again or dia 3 if you so choose and use it outside of VW/aby. New content will see a ton of strong mobs and I'm thinking a good para/slow build will be extremely useful.
See that's the main issue. They have always made HNMS immune or extremely resistant to slow and/or para and other spells. Maybe if they don't make new HNMs, etc like that, RDM will be good again in that set up.
But there are only so many slots to go around, and will have to wait to see if a geomancer would be worth bringing over a BRD, COR etc.
If GEO buffs are worth a damn you'll be stacking COR/BRD/GEO together for maximum buffage.
"adequately" =/= potency of merited spells. again. it's not going to be the same potency. it'll probably just be para 1 or 1.5 (like how jutsu t2 is "1.5" of that debuff, since overwritted by the T2 of that debuff (see hojo:ni vs slow 2))
I remember before (and this is what partly started RDM to be meh) was a lot of people saying that tier 2 para and slow was such a marginal increase that it was hardly worth it to use them over tier 1. Which is why people capped Phalanx II, etc.
"adequately" =/= potency of merited spells. again. it's not going to be the same potency. it'll probably just be para 1 or 1.5 (like how jutsu t2 is "1.5" of that debuff, since overwritted by the T2 of that debuff (see hojo:ni vs slow 2))
Yeah your right. But "adequate" is enough to not bring a RDM. And since we are speculating, speculate on the merits of GEO. Safe bet that one of them is going to be "Geomancy Accuracy/Potency."
RDM is in bad shape with or without a new job being added. I think most people are upset with the fact that their job is still broken and a new job is being added because I don't see how geomancer is hurting RDM anyway.
With GEO, RDM has now lost any chance of becoming an enhancer and is being further and further channeled into virtual obscurity.
Unless extraordinary enfeebling changes happen, other classes can do what RDM can while bringing other tricks to the table. BRD now has the capability to handle nigh any Refresh issues, BLU/DNC are superior jack of all trades melee, tanking is handled by DD or PLD and magery can be done by SCH packing Embrava and the same tools a RDM main has curewise.
since they said Geo is gonna have little to no resists on their aura debuffs, I'm betting you they are gonna be super weak versions of said debuff. Like ice spike's para, which is crazy weak.
beautiful, wish I could listen to her play these songs all day and just loop them forever.
Inorite! Well It's not the same as this performance, but there was a vanafest DVD release for the lil symphony they had held earlier. Just hope it gets localized and sold to those of us in the states or Europe. But I'm gonna keep a close eye on Square-Enix's music page and see what pops up. They never seem to disappoint in that department...
since they said Geo is gonna have little to no resists on their aura debuffs, I'm betting you they are gonna be super weak versions of said debuff. Like ice spike's para, which is crazy weak.
you really think they are going to go to all this trouble to implement two new jobs just so they can be "super weak?" Really dude?
since they said Geo is gonna have little to no resists on their aura debuffs, I'm betting you they are gonna be super weak versions of said debuff. Like ice spike's para, which is crazy weak.
yeah where is this coming from? unless you meant shock spikes...
I'm sorry Vic. Geo was only given debuffs right? It has b- and T4's for ele magic.. crazy buffs... the compass buff system.. oh but you're right. just debuffs, sorry.
beautiful, wish I could listen to her play these songs all day and just loop them forever.
Inorite! Well It's not the same as this performance, but there was a vanafest DVD release for the lil symphony they had held earlier. Just hope it gets localized and sold to those of us in the states or Europe. But I'm gonna keep a close eye on Square-Enix's music page and see what pops up. They never seem to disappoint in that department...
since they said Geo is gonna have little to no resists on their aura debuffs, I'm betting you they are gonna be super weak versions of said debuff. Like ice spike's para, which is crazy weak.
you really think they are going to go to all this trouble to implement two new jobs just so they can be "super weak?" Really dude?
Well, not necessarily "weak", but rather a possible compromise for the bypass of resistance. Having the previous potency of RDM debuffs with lack of resistance would be ridiculously OP as many are already speculating. Perhaps the line drawn in enfeebling between GEO & RDM will be a matter of potency vs. consistency.
since they said Geo is gonna have little to no resists on their aura debuffs, I'm betting you they are gonna be super weak versions of said debuff. Like ice spike's para, which is crazy weak.
you really think they are going to go to all this trouble to implement two new jobs just so they can be "super weak?" Really dude?
Well, not necessarily "weak", but rather a possible compromise for the bypass of resistance. Having the previous potency of RDM debuffs with lack of resistance would be ridiculously OP as many are already speculating. Perhaps the line drawn in enfeebling between GEO & RDM will be a matter of potency vs. consistency.
beautiful, wish I could listen to her play these songs all day and just loop them forever.
Inorite! Well It's not the same as this performance, but there was a vanafest DVD release for the lil symphony they had held earlier. Just hope it gets localized and sold to those of us in the states or Europe. But I'm gonna keep a close eye on Square-Enix's music page and see what pops up. They never seem to disappoint in that department...
I FREAKING LOVE THAT SONG! I don't care what other people think! It rocks!
That's fair. It might be a breath of fresh air to many, but I'm a bit of a purist when it comes to the FF franchise, and to go from classical, melodic, harmonic and grandiose scores to...well, that... was nothing short of blasphemy to me.
since they said Geo is gonna have little to no resists on their aura debuffs, I'm betting you they are gonna be super weak versions of said debuff. Like ice spike's para, which is crazy weak.
you really think they are going to go to all this trouble to implement two new jobs just so they can be "super weak?" Really dude?
Well, not necessarily "weak", but rather a possible compromise for the bypass of resistance. Having the previous potency of RDM debuffs with lack of resistance would be ridiculously OP as many are already speculating. Perhaps the line drawn in enfeebling between GEO & RDM will be a matter of potency vs. consistency.
They mentioned that the bypass in resistance was going to be somewhat universal, and they wanted to adjust the enfeeble system before putting the job in place so that the framework was down, or something. It doesn't have to compromise anything.
beautiful, wish I could listen to her play these songs all day and just loop them forever.
Inorite! Well It's not the same as this performance, but there was a vanafest DVD release for the lil symphony they had held earlier. Just hope it gets localized and sold to those of us in the states or Europe. But I'm gonna keep a close eye on Square-Enix's music page and see what pops up. They never seem to disappoint in that department...
I FREAKING LOVE THAT SONG! I don't care what other people think! It rocks!
That's fair. It might be a breath of fresh air to many, but I'm a bit of a purist when it comes to the FF franchise, and to go from classical, melodic, harmonic and grandiose scores to...well, that... was nothing short of blasphemy to me.
Ironically, 10 was never really in my book of favorites.
That's when I began to notice a steady decline in elements that made me cherish the franchise in the first place. But this is neither the time or place to discuss that. As long as they retain a sense of adventure, and a grand scale of storytelling within an equally vast and awe inspiring landscape, then I don't have too much to complain about, aside from minor fanboyish grievances.
But I will say Otherworld was, tasteful despite the drastic change in genre. It made for a fitting and valid intro and boss theme. But the ear piercing thrash metal chocobo with laughable lyrics was unjust IMO.
Ironically, 10 was never really in my book of favorites.
That's when I began to notice a steady decline in elements that made me cherish the franchise in the first place.
since they said Geo is gonna have little to no resists on their aura debuffs, I'm betting you they are gonna be super weak versions of said debuff. Like ice spike's para, which is crazy weak.
you really think they are going to go to all this trouble to implement two new jobs just so they can be "super weak?" Really dude?
Puppetmaster was terrible on launch though the job sounded great on paper.
A decade of FINAL FANTASY XI deserves a fitting celebration and what better way to celebrate than to play host to a two-day event featuring huge announcements, in-depth retrospectives, future plans, and more things we can’t wait to reveal?
The North American Community Team will be broadcasting live from the event floor and relaying all of the hottest information from the dev. team panels and offering a breakdown of the exciting activities taking place to help spread the celebration across the globe! Even if you’re unable to see the entire show streamed live, we’ll be posting up videos online after the event!
VANA★FEST 2012 LIVE! (Japanese)
VanaFest 2012 -- Community Team Live!
North America (West Coast)
June 22, 2012: 5:30pm ~ 1:00am (PDT)
June 23, 2012: 5:30pm ~ 12:00am (PDT)
North America (East Coast)
June 22, 2012: 8:30pm ~ 4:00am (EDT)
June 23, 2012: 8:30pm ~ 3:00am (EDT)
London
June 23, 2012: 1:30am ~ 9:00am
June 24, 2012: 1:30am ~ 8:00am
Event Overview
NA Community Rep Team
From left to right: Bethany “Rukkirii” Stout, Paul “Okipuit” Malixi, Matt “Bayohne” Hilton, and Devin “Camate” Casadey
Matt “Bayohne” Hilton
I can’t believe FINAL FANTASY XI turned 10 this year! I’m excited to bring adventurers around the world the up-to-the-minute news as it happens at VanaFest 2012, just as we did previously in 2010. We’ve learned a lot since then and we’re excited to introduce things in a new and unique way, lots of video streaming, more behind-the-scenes and more fun teasers leading up to the show. Adventurers, be sure not to miss all the excitement of VanaFest 2012 because I can say… it’s going to be a big show!
Devin “Camate” Casadey
VanaFest 2010 was a blast and covering the entire event through social media was a lot of fun. This year, since it is the 10th year anniversary, we are kicking it up a notch and broadcasting live and I think it’s going to take this event to a whole new level. I’ll be doing my best to create a really fun and informative live stream so that even our player base back at home in North America can enjoy the event. Make sure to procure some snacks, get your friends together, and tune in, because VanaFest 2012 is going to be amazing and like never before!
Bethany “Rukkirii” Stout
Heya! Your favorite feline rep checking in from the North American Square Enix offices! I will be behind-the-scenes making sure that all of you get the VanaFest details quickly and efficiently.
I can’t wait to see what’s in store for FFXI and I hope you are too!
Paul “Okipuit” Malixi
Your newest Community Rep Okipuit here reporting for duty. I will be holding down the fort at the North American Square Enix headquarters to make sure all the VanaFest coverage is delivered to you in thorough detail and Sharpshot accuracy! We have a great event lined up for you and I’m really looking forward to getting everyone hyped-up as I am for the announcements to come!
Event Schedule
Take a look at the current schedule of events along with their time table in other regions! As you can see, there’s going to be some fun stuff to see and hear about, so use this to help plan which segments of the show you want to see most, so you don’t miss them!
Live Coverage
Camate and Bayohne will be live streaming the events of VanaFest 2012, covering the big announcements and taking a behind-the-scenes look at the show floor. On the day of the event, we’ll have two streams active. The Japanese stream will cover the main stage events throughout and will be presented in Japanese only, but will be very useful to follow along with and enjoy the musical performances! The Community Team will be providing updates during that time in as-real-time-as-possible on Twitter and forums. The English video stream will host live reports that summarize the announcements after they’re completed and may include some special guests!
