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By Odin.Gosuapple 2012-04-25 17:06:56
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This makes me sad. I don't actually watch TV at all since we live in a day with the interwebz, but giving the government power to decide what can and cannot be reported is not something I'm a fan of. Whether you like Fox News or not, no doubt many of the things we take as unquestionable truth will seem as preposterous as a flat earth (which no doubt seemed entirely legit in its day) 100 years from now. If you allow censorship you may as well bump that up to 500 years from now.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2012-04-25 17:50:15
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Fox News is part of Newscorp, an American corporation.

They seem blatantly guilty of violating several US laws, notably laws against bribery and hacking by American citizens or corporations anywhere in the world.

Ummm.... when will charges be brought?

THAT is the power of media.

And Canada is wise to keep that media out.
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By Shiva.Karmessurma 2012-04-26 07:45:49
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This just proves that Canada's a bit smarter than us I guess. =/

But yeah, if people at Fox News are that butt hurt about not getting their feed into the Canadian airwaves, all they have to do is provide content that is based on actual situations as they come, with research performed into their stories and provide their content based on those facts. You know, what the news should be about, regardless of your political standing.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xueye 2012-04-26 07:49:50
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Odin.Gosuapple said: »
This makes me sad. I don't actually watch TV at all since we live in a day with the interwebz, but giving the government power to decide what can and cannot be reported is not something I'm a fan of. Whether you like Fox News or not, no doubt many of the things we take as unquestionable truth will seem as preposterous as a flat earth (which no doubt seemed entirely legit in its day) 100 years from now. If you allow censorship you may as well bump that up to 500 years from now.

I usually take the censorship bit, but Fox news is beyond too sensationalized to be allowed to call itself a news channel. I think the issue here is that they claim to be news but have drifted so far beyond it that they're just using that title as protection to spread ***.

If they stripped off the news bit and stopped claiming to be a new machine but instead a talking head machine, I think they'd be given a green light.
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By Fenrir.Terminus 2012-04-26 07:53:37
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So are we really pretending like FOX is the only network that twists the truth to support their agenda?

Seriously?

MSNBC is completely biased towards the left but when they put the screws in on conservative ideals they aren't making up facts or using outright lies to push an agenda. When Santorum was on his rampage over the rights of women and freedom of religion the coverage was obviously against Santorum but the commentary were things he actually said which were not taken out of context.

Take the birther issue surrounding Obama and what does FOX do? Continuously perpetuate the idea the president isn't American even though the overwhelming facts from the left and right concluded Obama was in-fact American.

You could go further with statements like the president is in league with terrorists because his middle name is Hussain, that the president hates white people (which is ironic) or because he bows to a foreign leader that Obama somehow hates the country.

But as the above poster said, people should have their right to FOX if they want to.

MSNBC said:
George Zimmerman: "This guy looks like he’s up to no good or he’s on drugs or something... He looks black."

RealLife said:
Zimmerman: We’ve had some break-ins in my neighborhood and there’s a real suspicious guy. It’s Retreat View Circle. The best address I can give you is 111 Retreat View Circle. This guy looks like he’s up to no good or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around looking about.

911 dispatcher: OK, is he White, Black, or Hispanic?

Zimmerman: He looks black.
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By Bismarck.Flavin 2012-04-26 08:34:34
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All news media use shortened bits of quotes to make it seem like something else... it was like when they plastered stuff about Romney liking to fire people when in context it was more that he liked to fire people that didn't do a good job for what he hired them to do... not near as bad but still dickish... Granted if I hired someone to paint my house and they did a bad job I would let em go but I wouldn't eget my kicks off that...

They do stuff like that for movie and game reviews too... they advertise it with only a bit of what the review actually said to make it look better...
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By Ramuh.Yarly 2012-04-26 08:38:04
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Isn't fox news like reality tv?
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By Sylph.Raesvelg 2012-04-26 08:45:27
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So you mean Canada doesn't have Fox News OR MSNBC? Man... Must be nice.
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By Bismarck.Flavin 2012-04-26 08:46:17
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Ramuh.Yarly said: »
Isn't fox news like reality tv?
Depends on who you talk to...
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By Bismarck.Luces 2012-04-26 09:48:10
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So we have all kinds of laws out there making it fairly easy to sue someone for lying I mean fraud covers so many category's, by definition a fraud is an intentional deception made for personal gain or to damage another individual, also truth in advertisement laws, why can't we have a truth in media law? I'm sorry but if your saying something is real and your standing on a street corner go ahead and lie until you get ticketed for disturbing the piece. Free speech however protects you as a person, and not fox because it's a corporation and is responsible for it's employees. When you are being distributed to the public you should be responsible for misleading and misinforming them. The constitution was to protect us people not corporations and I believe people should be protected from fraud which is what FOX news is.
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By Fenrir.Camiie 2012-04-26 09:53:52
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I don't watch FOX News or MSNBC although I have seen and heard commentary from both. The only difference I see is the political leaning, and for most of their detractors I think that's the real issue whether they want to admit it or not. Flip the opinions while keeping everything else the same and you'd see support and enmity flip as well. Politics and logical thinking just don't coexist.
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By Jetackuu 2012-04-26 10:09:13
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Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: »
Odin.Gosuapple said: »
This makes me sad. I don't actually watch TV at all since we live in a day with the interwebz, but giving the government power to decide what can and cannot be reported is not something I'm a fan of. Whether you like Fox News or not, no doubt many of the things we take as unquestionable truth will seem as preposterous as a flat earth (which no doubt seemed entirely legit in its day) 100 years from now. If you allow censorship you may as well bump that up to 500 years from now.

I usually take the censorship bit, but Fox news is beyond too sensationalized to be allowed to call itself a news channel. I think the issue here is that they claim to be news but have drifted so far beyond it that they're just using that title as protection to spread ***.

If they stripped off the news bit and stopped claiming to be a new machine but instead a talking head machine, I think they'd be given a green light.

fox isn't news it's news commentary, it's registered as an entertainment (company?).

not allowing one organization to broadcast because they are a pack of sensationalist liars =/= censorship.


Ramuh.Yarly said: »
Isn't fox news like reality tv?

on the drama and lying note, yes. About it all being reality, not so much, so very similar.

If I want great news commentary I'll watch Jon.
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By Jetackuu 2012-04-26 10:11:15
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Fenrir.Camiie said: »
I don't watch FOX News or MSNBC although I have seen and heard commentary from both. The only difference I see is the political leaning, and for most of their detractors I think that's the real issue whether they want to admit it or not. Flip the opinions while keeping everything else the same and you'd see support and enmity flip as well. Politics and logical thinking just don't coexist.

the difference is the one side is known to lie, constantly.

While for somebody like myself who researches things that spike my interest/sound fishy it's not a big deal, for the general Fox news viewer who's lazy and or dumb this isn't the case. They like being fed the anti progressive dribble to feed their hate, regardless if it's the truth or not.
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2012-04-26 10:32:42
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This would be awesome if it were true. Here is the website, try to find the decision:
http://www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/dno.htm

There is probably a reason that only backwoods news sites are carrying this story.

Here is another link too:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Radio-television_and_Telecommunications_Commission#Controversial_decisions
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By Jetackuu 2012-04-26 10:33:18
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bad link man
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2012-04-26 10:38:07
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Fixed it. Point is that this article is probably ***.
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By Lakshmi.Jesi 2012-04-26 10:44:50
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Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
Fixed it. Point is that this article is probably ***.

WRONG.

FOX news is the only news organization that twists the truth and lies about stuff.

So therefore, you are wrong.
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By Jetackuu 2012-04-26 10:46:54
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Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
Fixed it. Point is that this article is probably ***.
how so?

and what were you trying to prove with that link?
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By Odin.Gosuapple 2012-04-26 12:44:28
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Odin.Gosuapple said: »
This makes me sad. I don't actually watch TV at all since we live in a day with the interwebz, but giving the government power to decide what can and cannot be reported is not something I'm a fan of. Whether you like Fox News or not, no doubt many of the things we take as unquestionable truth will seem as preposterous as a flat earth (which no doubt seemed entirely legit in its day) 100 years from now. If you allow censorship you may as well bump that up to 500 years from now.

I usually take the censorship bit, but Fox news is beyond too sensationalized to be allowed to call itself a news channel. I think the issue here is that they claim to be news but have drifted so far beyond it that they're just using that title as protection to spread ***.

If they stripped off the news bit and stopped claiming to be a new machine but instead a talking head machine, I think they'd be given a green light.

All these people saying I'm for free speech but Fox News is just so bad this is okay (paraphrasing of course). That's no different than not supporting free speech at all. If you only support free speech as it pertains to speech you find acceptable you don't really support free speech at all. The speech we all agree is great needs no protecting, it's only things we find heinous, repulsive, or disagreeable that need the protection of free speech.
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By Artemicion 2012-04-26 12:46:38
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The only reason Fox is able to get away with what they do is because on the business end of things, they're documented as an entertainment service provider than an actual news provider.
Not that Fox was the first or only one to jump onto that bandwagon of safety, but it shines some light on the nature of such an industry.
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2012-04-26 12:50:32
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Fixed it. Point is that this article is probably ***.
how so?

and what were you trying to prove with that link?

That the organization the article claims recently denied Fox the right to broadcast in Canada did not make any such ruling? I linked you to the English version of their recent decisions page. Someone is trolling third rate news sources with a ***article that people want to believe because Fox News sucks.

Wizard's First Rule brah, Wizard's First Rule.
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2012-04-26 12:55:08
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Could just google it before you make such a claim.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-f-kennedy-jr/fox-news-will-not-be-moving-into-canada-after-all_b_829473.html
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By Carbuncle.Lunk 2012-04-26 12:59:29
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Always knew Canada > USA


no goverment debt
universal healthcare
cleaner brighter roads
no lies in news broadcasting

just a few things.

I go to the states on regular basis only because everything is 1/2 the price as in canada. great for canadians. when i found out usa wages were so disgustingly low i understood why everything is so cheap. poor poor americans. pun intended.
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2012-04-26 13:02:28
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If the original source doesn't support the article, why would HuffPo's copypasta form of content gathering suddenly support it?

Here is the article they cite as denying Fox News:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-notebook/crtc-ditches-bid-to-allow-fake-news/article1921489/
Note that it hasn't actually ruled against Fox News or even considered the network because it isn't broadcast in Canada.

Sun News (nicknamed Fox News North by Canadians despite having no connections to Murdock or Fox), is potentially going to be hurt by this regulation when it launches if it chooses to lie on the air.

Remember that the original article was this and not the technically-correct HuffPo version you posted.
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By Artemicion 2012-04-26 13:03:37
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To clear up confusion, from what I've been able to gather is in 2004, Fox was aired in Canada as an option for digital cable service, since cable providers often offer stations and channels beyond country based broadcasts. The denial of Fox for Canada was based on localized broadcasting options within the country as a whole, reflecting on Canada more so than a service provider.
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By Bismarck.Flavin 2012-04-26 13:03:38
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Carbuncle.Lunk said: »
Always knew Canada > USA no goverment debt universal healthcare cleaner brighter roads no lies in news broadcasting just a few things. I go to the states on regular basis only because everything is 1/2 the price as in canada. great for canadians. when i found out usa wages were so disgustingly low i understood why everything is so cheap. poor poor americans. pun intended.
This post made me lol...
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2012-04-26 13:05:09
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Artemicion said: »
To clear up confusion, from what I've been able to gather is in 2004, Fox was aired in Canada as an option for digital cable service, since cable providers often offer stations and channels beyond country based broadcasts. The denial of Fox for Canada was based on localized broadcasting options within the country as a whole, reflecting on Canada more so than a service provider.

This was actually an old dispute that was resolved pretty quickly.
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By Artemicion 2012-04-26 13:07:21
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Just saying it's one thing to be an option as a part of some sort of premium cable package based on the choices of a service provider than to have it localized and over the air regardless of your choice (or there lack of) television service.
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By Jetackuu 2012-04-26 13:12:50
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Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
Jetackuu said: »
Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
Fixed it. Point is that this article is probably ***.
how so?

and what were you trying to prove with that link?

That the organization the article claims recently denied Fox the right to broadcast in Canada did not make any such ruling? I linked you to the English version of their recent decisions page. Someone is trolling third rate news sources with a ***article that people want to believe because Fox News sucks.

it had nothing to do with recent decisions it's already illegal...
reading comprehension, you can have this.
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2012-04-26 13:16:13
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Lakshmi.Byrth said: »

Wizard's First Rule brah, Wizard's First Rule.
Passion rules reason. ^^;
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