Ragnarok.Raenil said: »
That was mostly in response to Moonwalkerv (seemingly) declaring himself the winner of the argument.
NP. Understood. There's never a winner on AH. People should know that by now.
/shrug
How Long Does The Dollar Have?
How long does the dollar have?
NP. Understood. There's never a winner on AH. People should know that by now.
/shrug
Smurfite said: »
wiki knows all.
Zarah didnt quote wiki, check her links. Top reading indeed.
Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
NP. Understood. There's never a winner on AH. People should know that by now.
/shrug
/shrug
I like how the US alone exports almost half of the worlds exported Corn, Soybeans and Cotton. And a quarter of all exported Wheat.
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Can I just go on record saying, I don't think that any country or countries unless it was a total The world VS the US, defeat the States in an armed conflict, my main argument has been that america does not have a strangle hold on the rest of the world in terms of food.
They could not starve the world into submission if they wanted too.
They could not starve the world into submission if they wanted too.
Moonwalkerv said: »
Can I just go on record saying, I don't think that any country or countries unless it was a total The world VS the US, defeat the States in an armed conflict, my main argument has been that america does not have a strangle hold on the rest of the world in terms of food.
They could not starve the world into submission if they wanted too.
They could not starve the world into submission if they wanted too.
Moonwalkerv said: »
Can I just go on record saying, I don't think that any country or countries unless it was a total The world VS the US, defeat the States in an armed conflict, my main argument has been that america does not have a strangle hold on the rest of the world in terms of food.
They could not starve the world into submission if they wanted too.
They could not starve the world into submission if they wanted too.
You contradict yourself, we COULD starve the world, bombed farms produce no food. Just sayin....
Edit: Anything is possible with enough bombs.
Quick! Everyone buy guns, liquidate all of your assets to gold and put on your aluminum hats!
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Moonwalkerv said: »
Can I just go on record saying, I don't think that any country or countries unless it was a total The world VS the US, defeat the States in an armed conflict, my main argument has been that america does not have a strangle hold on the rest of the world in terms of food.
They could not starve the world into submission if they wanted too.
They could not starve the world into submission if they wanted too.
Yes but US can always refuse at any time to pay debts to other countries/banks. then i wanna see who is gonna go and try take it (when the only solution will be the military)
Where else but Europe would the threat come from? Throw in the UK's and France's obligation to their former colonies( the commonwealth and France with its african colonies) and you still have the EU vs US.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_Nations
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_Nations
Fenrir.Eneas said: »
Moonwalkerv said: »
Can I just go on record saying, I don't think that any country or countries unless it was a total The world VS the US, defeat the States in an armed conflict, my main argument has been that america does not have a strangle hold on the rest of the world in terms of food. They could not starve the world into submission if they wanted too.
And as I said earlier, which brought this whole mess up.
If the US refuses to pay one country the rest would likely refuse to export to the US to minimise potential lose.
China, Russia
Smurfite said: »
Moonwalkerv said: »
Can I just go on record saying, I don't think that any country or countries unless it was a total The world VS the US, defeat the States in an armed conflict, my main argument has been that america does not have a strangle hold on the rest of the world in terms of food. They could not starve the world into submission if they wanted too.
That is so stupid I don't feel the need to reply other than telling you how stupid you are.
Moonwalkerv said: »
Fenrir.Eneas said: »
Moonwalkerv said: »
Can I just go on record saying, I don't think that any country or countries unless it was a total The world VS the US, defeat the States in an armed conflict, my main argument has been that america does not have a strangle hold on the rest of the world in terms of food. They could not starve the world into submission if they wanted too.
And as I said earlier, which brought this whole mess up.
If the US refuses to pay one country the rest would likely refuse to export to the US to minimise potential lose.
And as I said earlier the rest would be just *** themselves.
Jetackuu said: »
China, Russia
And Russia supplies much of eastern europes oil and gas. Who is to say they wouldnt feed them to keep their heat on?
Jetackuu said: »
Moonwalkerv said: »
Fenrir.Eneas said: »
Moonwalkerv said: »
Can I just go on record saying, I don't think that any country or countries unless it was a total The world VS the US, defeat the States in an armed conflict, my main argument has been that america does not have a strangle hold on the rest of the world in terms of food. They could not starve the world into submission if they wanted too.
But the thing is, the other majors powers are not stupid, if the US refuses to pay one of them they can refuse to pay another. All that strong arming would do is make sure the rest of the team up and take on the states.
The EU couldnt beat the US and the US couldnt maintain a large enouh presence to ensure exports keep on coming. So thats why we have this back and forthing over trade. Some countries get butthurt and rattle their sabres and the others pretend that they think its for real.
China is the biggest threat to the USA. A day will come when they want their money. And we wont have it. 1,400,000,000 VS 300,000,000. Invasion is an actual possibility for China to achieve. Russia can CHILL, they ain't doin ***.
lol @ Christian Zealots comment...
I only assume cops like it because it makes it easier for them to pick people up and hold them for small time possession... (my knowledge comes from tv and a couple criminology classes though so I'm not a reliable source lol) Either way though Jet it would still be illegal to distribute without a license and they would still be picking people up with enough on them with intent to distribute/sell. DEA still has a ***ton of other stuff to deal with too...
I only assume cops like it because it makes it easier for them to pick people up and hold them for small time possession... (my knowledge comes from tv and a couple criminology classes though so I'm not a reliable source lol) Either way though Jet it would still be illegal to distribute without a license and they would still be picking people up with enough on them with intent to distribute/sell. DEA still has a ***ton of other stuff to deal with too...
Smurfite said: »
China is the biggest threat to the USA. A day will come when they want their money. And we wont have it. 1,400,000,000 VS 300,000,000. Invasion is an actual possibility for China to achieve. Russia can CHILL, they ain't doin ***.
Again can I point out how stupid you are?
The logistics alone would stop a full blown Chinese invasion, not even taking into consideration. Indias close ties to America, the EU not trusting China fully, the rest of the world being uneasy about Chinese expansion.
And if they manage to land troops and hold ground, how many years would it take to force the american natvies to submit to the point they can produce enough to counter the cost in an ocupation? Let alone lives lost.
Bismarck.Flavin said: »
lol @ Christian Zealots comment...
I only assume cops like it because it makes it easier for them to pick people up and hold them for small time possession... (my knowledge comes from tv and a couple criminology classes though so I'm not a reliable source lol) Either way though Jet it would still be illegal to distribute without a license and they would still be picking people up with enough on them with intent to distribute/sell. DEA still has a ***ton of other stuff to deal with too...
I only assume cops like it because it makes it easier for them to pick people up and hold them for small time possession... (my knowledge comes from tv and a couple criminology classes though so I'm not a reliable source lol) Either way though Jet it would still be illegal to distribute without a license and they would still be picking people up with enough on them with intent to distribute/sell. DEA still has a ***ton of other stuff to deal with too...
As a matter of fact, there are a number of law enforcement agencies gathering together trying to get marijuana legalized. They realize it is a waste of time/money/manpower with no effect in the big picture of things. For every 10 tons of marijuana seized, there is something like 100 tons distributed. Unstoppable force, let alone western states legalizing already. It is only a matter of time before I can walk in the store and buy me some bangin buds :D
You do understand at some point it becomes less about money and more about pride? I just stated that China COULD pull it off. All it takes is the top jackie chan to get mad enough at the situation, and it's on. Wars have been started over a lot less.
Look, it's very unlikely that the heads of the EU, Germany and France, would jump ship. Just saying.
Spain and Italy are not the breadwinners of the EU, and I wouldn't be surprised if either went the way of Greece. Spain has agriculture and tourism, but they are suffering just as Italy. France and Germany are pulling all the weight. No offence, Moon, why you would bring Spain into this argument is still beyond me.
On another note: My grandfather was right about his reservations over the Euro over a decade ago.
EDIT: Sorry for the delay. Winding down the work day.
Spain and Italy are not the breadwinners of the EU, and I wouldn't be surprised if either went the way of Greece. Spain has agriculture and tourism, but they are suffering just as Italy. France and Germany are pulling all the weight. No offence, Moon, why you would bring Spain into this argument is still beyond me.
On another note: My grandfather was right about his reservations over the Euro over a decade ago.
EDIT: Sorry for the delay. Winding down the work day.
No, China could not pull it off.
There is no land bridge to the states, that means air or sea. Both of which the states controls. Even if the states is taken out, Canada is right there, Canada is part of the commonwealth which means the UK, which means Canada, England, Australia, New Zealand, India, South Africa and many more smaller nations all going at China. Which again means a two front war, at home and in the states.
Believe it or not they are actually run by pretty smart people and they know they would lose. It's all sabre rattling to get a better trade deal further down the line.
There is no land bridge to the states, that means air or sea. Both of which the states controls. Even if the states is taken out, Canada is right there, Canada is part of the commonwealth which means the UK, which means Canada, England, Australia, New Zealand, India, South Africa and many more smaller nations all going at China. Which again means a two front war, at home and in the states.
Believe it or not they are actually run by pretty smart people and they know they would lose. It's all sabre rattling to get a better trade deal further down the line.
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Smurfite said: »
China is the biggest threat to the USA. A day will come when they want their money. And we wont have it. 1,400,000,000 VS 300,000,000. Invasion is an actual possibility for China to achieve. Russia can CHILL, they ain't doin ***.
Nope.
How exactly is China supposed to transport troops from there to here w/o us just blasting all their ships out of the water?
It's not like you can sneak an invasion force big enough to capture the US w/o us knowing it.
Moonwalkerv said: »
No, China could not pull it off.
There is no land bridge to the states, that means air or sea. Both of which the states controls. Even if the states is taken out, Canada is right there, Canada is part of the commonwealth which means the UK, which means Canada, England, Australia, New Zealand, India, South Africa and many more smaller nations all going at China. Which again means a two front war, at home and in the states.
Believe it or not they are actually run by pretty smart people and they know they would lose. It's all sabre rattling to get a better trade deal further down the line.
There is no land bridge to the states, that means air or sea. Both of which the states controls. Even if the states is taken out, Canada is right there, Canada is part of the commonwealth which means the UK, which means Canada, England, Australia, New Zealand, India, South Africa and many more smaller nations all going at China. Which again means a two front war, at home and in the states.
Believe it or not they are actually run by pretty smart people and they know they would lose. It's all sabre rattling to get a better trade deal further down the line.
Despite earlier disagreements, this is all correct.
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Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
No offence, Moon, why you would bring Spain into this argument is still beyond me.
You got me there, Spain was going to be a throw away comment about all fruit in the UK/Ireland seems to come from spain but I got sidetracked.
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FYI. Mexico is attached to the USA. THEY CANT STOP ***. You are blind if you think the USA is some untouchable land that cannot be invaded. Canada(and allies) could try but if China had the mindset to do so (will admit highly unlikely) they could do it. I don't offhand know the size of their military, but as I recall all men are required to serve x amount of years. And if their government calls, it's not the like the USA. Their citizens will respond unlike the most of my countries pussy *** scared lil ***.
Edit: Also you act like every beach in the USA is lined with anti aircraft defenses. You act like Chinese warships cannot shoot down American aircraft attempting to bomb them. Your "logic" doesn't make much sense to me.
Edit: Also you act like every beach in the USA is lined with anti aircraft defenses. You act like Chinese warships cannot shoot down American aircraft attempting to bomb them. Your "logic" doesn't make much sense to me.
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